[Discussion] Which gap is bigger

[Bogard]

So, i've heard plenty of times in this section that admirals are going to be end of serie opponents but something always bothered me about it. Let's see what narutobase members think

Which gap is bigger?

Between

1- Akainu and Kizaru
2- Luffy and Sanji

 

[Hexuze]

Obviously Luffy and Sanji are more likely to have bigger gaps in strength than two top tiers. The current top tiers in OP are relatively close to one another in strength (i.e. one top tier can't low or mid. diff. another). I'm not saying Luffy can low diff. Sanji but he can mid-diff. him.

 

[Bogard]

Obviously Luffy and Sanji are more likely to have bigger gaps in strength than two top tiers. The current top tiers in OP are relatively close to one another in strength (i.e. one top tier can't low or mid. diff. another). I'm not saying Luffy can low diff. Sanji but he can mid-diff. him.

So by this reply, are you implying you're of the opinion, strawhats won't face admirals by end of serie?

 

[Hexuze]

So by this reply, are you implying you're of the opinion, strawhats won't face admirals by end of serie?

Sanji will face off an admiral by EoS (likely to be Kizaru), Zoro will face off Mihawk/Shiliew & Luffy against BB.

 

[Bogard]

Sanji will face off an admiral by EoS (likely to be Kizaru), Zoro will face off Mihawk/Shiliew & Luffy against BB.

How could Sanji be facing an admiral by the time Zoro and Luffy will have different targets(likely in different islands)? Will they split at some point or something?

 

[OG sama]

Haven't seen enough of sanji to say Luffy would beat him with ease. But the gap between Top tiers isn't very huge. Think of it this way, no one is mid diffing an admiral level fighter. Not even if they are admiral level. Not even Gold Roger is mid diffing one.

 

[Bogard]

Haven't seen enough of sanji to say Luffy would beat him with ease. But the gap between Top tiers isn't very huge. Think of it this way, no one is mid diffing an admiral level fighter. Not even if they are admiral level. Not even Gold Roger is mid diffing one.

Hence the problem. The ideal scenario i keep seeing here is strawhats top3(Luffy, Zoro and Sanji) ending up facing admirals at the end of serie. Judging by how close admirals are portrayed to be, it wouldn't make sense for them to be end of serie opponents, wouldn't make sense for them to be beaten in the same arc

@Bold i wouldn't be so sure. I'm pretty convinced prime Whitebeard/Roger could mid diff admirals and i perfectly see Luffy/BB by the end of serie managing that

 

[Hexuze]

How could Sanji be facing an admiral by the time Zoro and Luffy will have different targets(likely in different islands)? Will they split at some point or something?

Perhaps. Unless the Shiliew theory is true then there will be no need for splitting up since Luffy can fight BB and Zoro can fight Shiliew. If Sanji does fight Kizaru, it may be a bit before EoS, idk really. The new admirals seem to follow the secondary color pattern (Purple = Fuji, Green = Green Bull & Orange = ??? (Coby?, idk) ) but obviously Kizaru has to leave that spot and since I don't see him leaving the marines he may get killed by Sanji. Once Kizaru dies, Coby can fill in that position as admiral and he'll be an admiral right before the final war.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't see Luffy facing Akainu, I see Sabo doing so instead. Luffy's target is gonna be Blackbeard IMO since he's Luffy's antithesis. But as for the gap, the gap between Luffy and Sanji is bigger. While I personally believe off of intuition that Kizaru is stronger than Sakazuki, like others have said no Admiral is being mid-diffed by anyone.

 

[OG sama]

Hence the problem. The ideal scenario i keep seeing here is strawhats top3(Luffy, Zoro and Sanji) ending up facing admirals at the end of serie. Judging by how close admirals are portrayed to be, it wouldn't make sense for them to be end of serie opponents, wouldn't make sense for them to be beaten in the same arc

@Bold i wouldn't be so sure. I'm pretty convinced prime Whitebeard/Roger could mid diff admirals and i perfectly see Luffy/BB by the end of serie managing that

Well then again, you may be right about Gold Roger and Prime WB, and obviously EOS Luffy and BB. Almost forgot how a sick old Whiteboard did against Akainu. He and Roger back in the day would mid diff the C3 for sure.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Perhaps. Unless the Shiliew theory is true then there will be no need for splitting up since Luffy can fight BB and Zoro can fight Shiliew. If Sanji does fight Kizaru, it may be a bit before EoS, idk really. The new admirals seem to follow the secondary color pattern (Purple = Fuji, Green = Green Bull & Orange = ??? (Coby?, idk) ) but obviously Kizaru has to leave that spot and since I don't see him leaving the marines he may get killed by Sanji. Once Kizaru dies, Coby can fill in that position as admiral and he'll be an admiral right before the final war.

There is no rule that says that the Marines can have only 3 Admirals at a time.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well then again, you may be right about Gold Roger and Prime WB, and obviously EOS Luffy and BB. Almost forgot how a sick old Whiteboard did against Akainu. He and Roger back in the day would mid diff the C3 for sure.

Oh please, Whitebeard snuck attack Akainu. When the two stood against each other face to face, Akainu was toying with him. If both went all out seriously, it's not gonna mid diff of anything.

 

[shon93]

Haven't seen enough of sanji to say Luffy would beat him with ease. But the gap between Top tiers isn't very huge. Think of it this way, no one is mid diffing an admiral level fighter. Not even if they are admiral level. Not even Gold Roger is mid diffing one.

Old WB high diff an admiral tho

 

[OG sama]

Perhaps. Unless the Shiliew theory is true then there will be no need for splitting up since Luffy can fight BB and Zoro can fight Shiliew. If Sanji does fight Kizaru, it may be a bit before EoS, idk really. The new admirals seem to follow the secondary color pattern (Purple = Fuji, Green = Green Bull & Orange = ??? (Coby?, idk) ) but obviously Kizaru has to leave that spot and since I don't see him leaving the marines he may get killed by Sanji. Once Kizaru dies, Coby can fill in that position as admiral and he'll be an admiral right before the final war.

I see EOS Sanji fighting a EOS burgess, who is much stronger than he is now.

 

[OG sama]

Old WB high diff an admiral tho

Yeah your right. I have changed my mind. Roger and Prime WB mid diff any admiral.

 

[Hexuze]

I see EOS Sanji fighting a EOS burgess, who is much stronger than he is now.

Why would they fight?

There is no rule that says that the Marines can have only 3 Admirals at a time.

I never said that there was. It's to fit the secondary colours scheme.

 

[OG sama]

Why would they fight?



I never said that there was. It's to fit the secondary colours scheme.

Well I kinda just guessed, because the SHs are going to have to have some opponent for their battle vs BB pirates.

Like Zoro has Shiliew.

And Usopp has that sniper guy.

 

[Hexuze]

Well I kinda just guessed, because the SHs are going to have to have some opponent for their battle vs BB pirates.

Like Zoro has Shiliew.

And Usopp has that sniper guy.

I guess Franky can fight him.

 

[jiraiya lives]

So by this reply, are you implying you're of the opinion, strawhats won't face admirals by end of serie?

I believe that they will face admirals but I do not truly believe every admiral will get beaten. Sanji vs Kizaru will probably go unfinished or most of it will be off screen (classic oda way of doing fights) and will be up to us to interpret who's the strongest afterwards. I believe that the parts of the fight we will see will involve sanji losing a little and then Sanji lands a big shot that could change the battle but Oda will shift it to another fight at that moment.

I honestly believe that Zoro will only have a brief skirmish with fuji in the last war before the fight is interrupted by someone who'll hold Fuji and allow Zoro to go fight mihawk (or future WSS Shilliew )


Luffy vs Akainu is the only admiral fight I see being fully shown and going all out with a clear winner in the end

 

[Hexuze]

I believe that they will face admirals but I do not truly believe every admiral will get beaten. Sanji vs Kizaru will probably go unfinished or most of it will be off screen (classic oda way of doing fights) and will be up to us to interpret who's the strongest afterwards. I believe that the parts of the fight we will see will involve sanji losing a little and then Sanji lands a big shot that could change the battle but Oda will shift it to another fight at that moment.

I honestly believe that Zoro will only have a brief skirmish with fuji in the last war before the fight is interrupted by someone who'll hold Fuji and allow Zoro to go fight mihawk (or future WSS Shilliew )


Luffy vs Akainu is the only admiral fight I see being fully shown and going all out with a clear winner in the end

I'm quite confident that near EoS and after that we won't get off-panel fights. Why would he have an off-panel fight for one of the SH's final fights?