[VS] 4th Raikage Vs KIsame

[TheDagger3016]

4th Raikage Vs KIsame
Location: Killer Bee Vs Kisame
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[HiddenSound]

I would think Kisame but A's blutzing power is no joke.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

With full intel Ay hits Kisame with a V2 blitz and does massive damage, tosses Samehad aside and finishes the job before the two meet again.

 

[Icelerate]

With full intel Ay hits Kisame with a V2 blitz and does massive damage, tosses Samehad aside and finishes the job before the two meet again.

With full intel can't Kisame fuse with samehada from the get go, making Ay's attacks null as he can't separate samehada nor can he finish Kisame off in that form?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Laaaariatoooooo!

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

With full intel can't Kisame fuse with samehada from the get go, making Ay's attacks null as he can't separate samehada nor can he finish Kisame off in that form?

The process is far from instant, though. I'd wager Ay could clear a fair sized gap between the two before the fusion is complete. Still dealing harsh damage and providing an opening for a quick follow up.

 

[Icelerate]

The process is far from instant, though. I'd wager Ay could clear a fair sized gap between the two before the fusion is complete. Still dealing harsh damage and providing an opening for a quick follow up.

I guess the fight depends on starting distance. Do you think Ay can cut Kisame in half with his raiton chops?

 

[Benjamin King]

There is this common misconception of Kisame reacting to V2 Bee. Bee never used speed against Kisame to begin with, as there is no page to show that. Kisame cannot even react to 6th Gate Gai, who is tiers below Ay in speed. Ay with V1 alone, would blitz right through his skeleton.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kisame was blitzed by v1 Ay and v1 bee's double lariat, Kisame could barely clap his hands Lol

Imagine the speed of V2 Ay, there's no reaction possible for Kisame.

In fact, the number of times Kisame has been blitzed is quite hilarious. Blitzed by KCM Naruto, blitzed by Bee, blitzed by Ay, blitzed by Guy. He just can't handle dem blitzing.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I guess the fight depends on starting distance. Do you think Ay can cut Kisame in half with his raiton chops?

Probably, if Samehada isn't nearby to absorb the raiton.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

With full intel can't Kisame fuse with samehada from the get go, making Ay's attacks null as he can't separate samehada nor can he finish Kisame off in that form?

The process is far from instant, though. I'd wager Ay could clear a fair sized gap between the two before the fusion is complete. Still dealing harsh damage and providing an opening for a quick follow up.

He doesn't even need to fully fuse with Samehada though. Just partially fusing Kisames arm with Samehadas hilt eliminates the possibility of Ay ever separating the two. The question is, does losing all that chakra at once zap enough energy out of Ay so he can't immediately blitz again and overwhelm

Starting distance obviously plays a huge part.

 

[Apêx1]

Full intel means Kisame starts with a large scale Suiton from the get-go. Similarly to what he did against Bee, meaning Ay falls into the water and loses the only special thing he has going for him, which is his shunshin.

 

[Gold Lightning]

People like to use starting distance as their only hope, by making some ridiculous distance like 100m or something dumb like that.

Yet in the manga, how many battles and face offs are anything more 25m.

 

[Apêx1]

People like to use starting distance as their only hope, by making some ridiculous distance like 100m or something dumb like that.

Yet in the manga, how many battles and face offs are anything more 25m.

People like to act like Ay going into v2 is instant.

 

[Gold Lightning]

People like to act like Ay going into v2 is instant.

Because it pretty much is.

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He goes from base to V2 in 2 different panels. I don't know how long you think it takes. He did the same to minato as well.

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V2 straight off the bat. GG Kisame. Depending on the distance, V1 is fast enough.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

He doesn't even need to fully fuse with Samehada though. Just partially fusing Kisames arm with Samehadas hilt eliminates the possibility of Ay ever separating the two. The question is, does losing all that chakra at once zap enough energy out of Ay so he can't immediately blitz again and overwhelm

Starting distance obviously plays a huge part.

Eh, I can kind of see your point. If Kisame is able to merge right off the bat, he'll probably win with struggling going on.

 

[Beans2]

This blitzing argument is so dumb, since no starting distance is given we can assume that it's a neutral that gives neither party a significant advantage. Kisame beats him the exact same way he beat Killer Bee

 

[Haizaki]

Raikage wins.

- Ay can instantly access his Raiton with such speed.

- Kisame Samehada always returns to him

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. So even though Ay knocks Kisame over, Samehada returns to him with an absorbed Ay's chakra and feeds him with the fact that it can also be dangerous to Ay

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. However, Kisame reacted to its attack and knocked Samehada far away in the next page. Ay who's much stronger sends Samehada away and kills Kisame before he's healed.

 

[Gold Lightning]

This blitzing argument is so dumb, since no starting distance is given we can assume that it's a neutral that gives neither party a significant advantage. Kisame beats him the exact same way he beat Killer Bee

Lol, says who?

Why don't we just used the standard manga starting distance for once, instead of coming up with ridiculous ranges that don't even make sense. What's funny is that every Kisame battle distance has been no more that 20m Lol

 

[Apêx1]

Because it pretty much is.

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He goes from base to V2 in 2 different panels. I don't know how long you think it takes. He did the same to minato as well.

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V2 straight off the bat. GG Kisame. Depending on the distance, V1 is fast enough.

Huh? You call that instant? Naruto was behind Tsunade [

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]. Naruto has reached near the cliff [

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]. Cliff is in front of Tsunade, despite Naruto having ran from the side of the cliff, and not right in front of Tsunade, meaning he took far longer to go to the side and then forward. Ay's v2 charge is instant? Tell me more.

Second scan. Doesn't prove much either. Ay here is base [

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]. Later, Minato reaches for his pouch, throws the kunai's, Kunai's are all present, and we get a glimpse of Ay a page later, where he is in his shrouded form. Unless you are telling me he charged it then and there, the point is moot.

Against Sasuke, his v1 to v2 transformation took two pages, seeing how in the first page of charging, his hair only slightly went up [

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, it still wasn't up despite Sasuke having prepped Ama by then, and AFTER Ama was prepped, Karin mentioned his chakra was still growing, meaning v2 wasn't prepped yet.