DMS Obito vs Reanimation itachi

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1 MS Obito is enough. DMS is too much.
 

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Itachi is sealed in kamui dimension
 

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Totsuka GG.



Now that all the fanboy comments have been attracted to this post like a lightning rod, Itachi has nothing even close to Kamui.
 

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It's sad you don't realize how much of stomp this is in Obito's favor.
 

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Dms Obito feats:
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"Every jutsu has a weakness." Kamui wankers seriously need to wake up.
 

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"Every jutsu has a weakness." Kamui wankers seriously need to wake up.

A jutsu having a weakness means absolute jack if you don't have the means to counter it in your arsenal.

OT: Obito shitsomps.
 

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A jutsu having a weakness means absolute jack if you don't have the means to counter it in your arsenal.

OT: Obito shitsomps.

Sure he does. Sometimes, you need to get back at the basics to see how to counter it.

The right eye's primary weakness is that both aspects of Kamui cannot be used concurrently, as the user must become and remain tangible in order to utilise Kamui's teleportation, providing a small opportunity in which they are unable to pass through objects and thus, are vulnerable to injury. This deficiency means that the user must also materialise when ejecting stored items, presenting the same vulnerability.[31] According to Konan, Obito could only maintain his intangibility for approximately five consecutive minutes at a time, after which he was presumably rendered completely solid for a duration. In order to bypass this weakness and remain in Kamui's dimension for a longer duration, Obito had to "solidify" and absorb his entire body. She also revealed that the time it took him to absorb something was proportional to its mass, and that it took him longer to absorb himself than another person or object.[32]. Also, to pass through objects Obito must "activate" the intangibility to Kamui, so any part of his body will overlap with objects and people, even parts that were meant to land an attack. To land a successful blow, he must "deactivate" the intangibility, leaving him vulnerable to attack as well.

Additionally, due to the nature of this technique's intangibility, the sections of the user's body residing in Kamui's dimension can still interact normally with other objects contained within said dimension. As a result, the user can be damaged by such items, a characteristic that Kakashi exploited to injure Obito on multiple occasions during the Fourth Shinobi World War.[33] While controlling the Ten-Tails, Obito was unable to extend his intangibility to the beast or his means of connecting to its head, and was separated from it as a result.[34] After becoming the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, Obito noticed that he could no longer use Kamui's ability to let objects slip through him.[35] However, Madara was able to transport himself to and from Kamui's dimension as the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, establishing that some aspects of Kamui are still usable.[36]

This explains it quite well, if you want to understand the cons and pros of a technique. Many people don't so it's easier to say "shitstomps". Anyone who is fast enough with a higher caliber of intelligence can counter it sooner or later.
 

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Sure he does.

No he doesn't, simply highlighting kamui's limitations doesn't change the fact that he can't stop it.

OT: 1 MS Obito mid-diffs
 

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No he doesn't, simply highlighting kamui's limitations doesn't change the fact that he can't stop it.

OT: 1 MS Obito mid-diffs

Who says he has to stop it? He can counter it even if it's activated. Usually, when a technique is activated, its limitation or disadvantage is displayed. You have to try to read the reasoning and logic.
 

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He can counter it even if it's activated.

No, he has absolutely no way to counter it.

Usually, when a technique is activated, its limitation or disadvantage is displayed. You have to try to read the reasoning and logic.

In this case, the reasoning & logic tells us that itachi can't do anything about kamui, obito easily keeps up with him & warps him away, it's that simple.
 

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No, he has absolutely no way to counter it.



In this case, the reasoning & logic tells us that itachi can't do anything about kamui, obito easily keeps up with him & warps him away, it's that simple.

Again, try to read it. The reasoning and logic tells us that Kamui has a weakness. Also, in a fantasy battle between them according to Kishimoto, Itachi obviously has a way to deal with it. Lol
 

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Again, try to read it. The reasoning and logic tells us that Kamui has a weakness.

Which is obviously something that Itachi can't exploit.

Also, in a fantasy battle between them according to Kishimoto, Itachi obviously has a way to deal with it. Lol

And in a fantasy one on one battle between Naruto and Hagaromo, Naruto would most likely win. Doesn't change the fact that Hagaromo is still above him. Using baseless assumptions like "this is what would happen if they fought in the manga!" is not how vs threads work. Sorry.
 

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Which is obviously something that Itachi can't exploit.



And in a fantasy one on one battle between Naruto and Hagaromo, Naruto would most likely win. Doesn't change the fact that Hagaromo is still above him. Using baseless assumptions like "this is what would happen if they fought in the manga!" is not how vs threads work. Sorry.

If you read it carefully, of course he can. With the level of his abilities, or anyone's for that matter, it's exploitable.

Hmm, that's pretty far-fetched and speculative, much like any of these battle-threads. That's a pretty bold statement, considering "XXXX shitstomps" was yours and everyone else's argument. That's also a pretty baseless assumption.

Right, VS. threads work with 2-3 words in a sentence, minus the elaboration and reasoning. That's why they pretty much suck.
 

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If you read it carefully, of course he can. With the level of his abilities, or anyone's for that matter, it's exploitable.

No. Unless you can prove that Itachi can counter kamui, then he has no counters for it. And hence Obito beats him. Quite simple.

Hmm, that's pretty far-fetched and speculative, much like any of these battle-threads. That's a pretty bold statement, considering "XXXX shitstomps" was yours and everyone else's argument. That's also a pretty baseless assumption.

vs threads are hypothetical situations yes. But everyone uses the moves the character has shown in the manga (in most cases), to come to a conclusion with regards to who wins. Itachi has shown no counters at all to kamui, hence Obito poops on him in combat.(IMS)

Right, VS. threads work with 2-3 words in a sentence, minus the elaboration and reasoning. That's why they pretty much suck.

Then why are you posting in one? Besides, when the matchups are actually debatable, you see people wall of texting in the vs section. This is NOT a debatable matchup, since DMS Obito does shit on Itachi: Kamui GG, PS GG etc It's like someone making a "Kisame vs Iruka" thread and expecting everyone to give detailed responses to the thread. Lol
 

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No. Unless you can prove that Itachi can counter kamui, then he has no counters for it. And hence Obito beats him. Quite simple.



vs threads are hypothetical situations yes. But everyone uses the moves the character has shown in the manga , to come to a conclusion with regards to who wins. Itachi has shown no counters at all to kamui, hence Obito poops on him in combat.(IMS)



Then why are you posting in one? Besides, when the matchups are actually debatable, you see people wall of texting in the vs section. This is NOT a debatable matchup, since DMS Obito does shit on Obito, kamui GG, PS GG etc It's like someone making a "Kisame vs Iruka" thread and expecting everyone to give detailed responses to the thread. Lol

You also can't prove Itachi can't counter it. Logic? Not even once.

But what was shown in the manga are the basic steps to bypass it and deal damage, which is why I said you have to go back to basics. Lol

I'm an optimistic guy. Whenever I see someone with reasoning, I try to debate. Apparently, I was wrong. You don't understand that the Kamui has a weakness which isn't and shouldn't be questionable. The real question is whether his opponent has overall abilities to execute such action that exploits that weakness. The simple answer here is yes.
 

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You also can't prove Itachi can't counter it. Logic? Not even once.

Burden of proof fallacy. The onus is on YOU to prove that Itachi can counter Kamui, based on what he has shown in the manga. Not some fantasy "ooh but if they fought he could counter it". Itachi has no way of countering Kamui from what we know, hence he loses.


I'm an optimistic guy. Whenever I see someone with reasoning, I try to debate. Apparently, I was wrong. You don't understand that the Kamui has a weakness which isn't and shouldn't be questionable. The real question is whether his opponent has overall abilities to execute such action that exploits that weakness. The simple answer here is yes.

Itachi doesn't have the necessary abilities to Kamui based on what we have seen. The only people who can beat 1 MS Obito are people with extreme speed, S/T users, Shadow clone spammers(in large quantities. Or other types of clone spamming),those with continuous attacks for 5 mins+(without stopping), or fellow Kamui users. Itachi has none of those things, hence he loses.
 

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"Every jutsu has a weakness." Kamui wankers seriously need to wake up.

Dear sir
Kamui is not needed to defeat since DMS Obito will merely use his Gudo Dama Staff to destroy Itachi and the latter doesnt have Sage Mode to counter Gudo Dama
 
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