What's the point of a clan?

[Neji Hyūga2]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up but it just randomly hit me while watching some Naruto videos. Thinking back on this I came to the realization that most of the clans in Naruto aren't(possibly) pure breeds, so what's the point in having clans at all?

Naruto is an Uzumaki but isn't purely one, he's got Namikaze in him too(fairly obvious one). What about the other clans though? Clans like the Nara, Akimichi, Aburame and so on? There is a good chance that kids in those families aren't pure breeds either, such as Naruto himself. From what I recall, we don't know whether their clan "members" consist of them strictly marrying within that clan right? I always figured that they some what did in order to keep their clans consist and pure such as the Uchiha & Hyuuga(Ex: Sasuke's parents). This is in order to keep specific aspects in their respective clan intact such as the Sharingan or the Byakugan but what excuse do the other clans like the Nara clan have for marrying within their clan?(if they do that is)

Is this a possible reason why other clans would marry within the family, to preserve something that's only valid within that clan or does it straight up not matter? In the last manga chapter(#700) we see a lot of pairs married with children of their own but it's a lot of mixed bunches(Ex: Shikamaru's & Temari's kid and Choji's & Karui's kid).
Wouldn't mixing like this confirm that there isn't a point of having a clan in the first place? Wasn't the point of the clan to preserve and keep intact specific things and now they don't care much about it since they're at a time of "peace"?


I want to honestly know what you think about this because I sure am curious to know what your thoughts about it are. Maybe I'm missing something and you can enlighten me about it

Also sorry if I worded it poorly. I couldn't really find the correct words to truly express how I wanted interpret this.

 

[Seventh Sama]

It's a ninja thing, mane.

 

[Torche]

There's no "Namikaze" clan, so he would always keep the Uzumaki name.

The clans were kept from the Clan wars era, tradition I guess.

 

[Shruikan]

There's no "Namikaze" clan, so he would always keep the Uzumaki name.

The clans were kept from the Clan wars era, tradition I guess.

Funnily enough if it wasnt for Naruto's life being endangered as Minato's son he would have actually been a Namikaze and so would his kids

 

[Torche]

Funnily enough if it wasnt for Naruto's life being endangered as Minato's son he would have actually been a Namikaze and so would his kids

Nah, nobody was after him as Minato's kid. Lol Uzumaki clan is more prestigious than "Namikaze".

 

[Cunning Linguist]

The point is that you can have a family. That you're allowed to bang. Clans turn that creepy incest into wincest.

 

[Torche]

The point is that you can have a family. That you're allowed to bang. Clans turn that creepy incest into wincest.

That is so true. XD :leaf:

Hyuuga are an undeniable example; all have the Byakugan and when someone from outside of the clan mates with someone from the clan the kids don't have the Byakugan. XD

 

[To Whatever]

I think every clan other than the Uchiha and Hyuga can mix with non-clan members and still retain their abilities.

Senju and Uzumaki are debatable though. Since Naruto and Tsunade seem to have a really strong life force i'd compare to full-blooded members.

 

[Neji Hyūga2]

Nah, nobody was after him as Minato's kid. Lol Uzumaki clan is more prestigious than "Namikaze".

So it's not even about possibly passing down something, it's just about having a title to go along with it?

The point is that you can have a family. That you're allowed to bang. Clans turn that creepy incest into wincest.

I suppose it's a sneaky way to get by that but what's the point in marry within the family for all this time, just to "have" it with a family member? Why wouldn't other clans just marry around with different people instead of family? The end result would be the same, but just not with a family member.

 

[Neji Hyūga2]

That is so true. XD :leaf:

Hyuuga are an undeniable example; all have the Byakugan and when someone from outside of the clan mates with someone from the clan the kids don't have the Byakugan. XD

Isn't that just genetics? Is it a 100% fact that if they marry outside of their clan that they for sure can't have a Byakugan or is there a possible chance that their gene which contains it can be passed onto the child despite them not being 100% Hyuuga?

 

[Mahesvara]

The point of clans is to be the most powerful and eventually they figured out having multiple blood lines will increase the clans strength. Only clans who wanted to remain purebloods kept there blood lines within themselves.

 

[Torche]

So it's not even about possibly passing down something, it's just about having a title to go along with it?

Not at all. The Uzumaki were known for their longevity and incredible life force. This is shown in Nagato, Kushina, Karin (Survived stabbed through with Chidori spear), and Naruto to an extent.

Isn't that just genetics? Is it a 100% fact that if they marry outside of their clan that they for sure can't have a Byakugan or is there a possible chance that their gene which contains it can be passed onto the child despite them not being 100% Hyuuga?

It is, but if all Hyuuga's within the clan are shown to have Byakugan than both parents were obviously Hyuuga giving a 100% chance of gaining Byakugan.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

So it's not even about possibly passing down something, it's just about having a title to go along with it?



I suppose it's a sneaky way to get by that but what's the point in marry within the family for all this time, just to "have" it with a family member? Why wouldn't other clans just marry around with different people instead of family? The end result would be the same, but just not with a family member.

So it's like the Uchiha. One day they looked around and decided that they were the pinnacle of humanity in the NV. So they started to solely (as much as possible) breed within the Uchiha. This would increase the potency of the Sharingan if done correctly. Hence Sasuke and Itachi. It also limits undesired traits coming into the Uchiha blood. Like Fodderitus from Kiba's clan. That's why they would do clans. Plus unity, political power, consolidation, all that crap

 

[uchihamad]

The concept clan lost important when Hashirama and Madara decided to make a village. Only clans like Hyuuga and Uchiha still think that they are superior and need to maintain clans. Uchiha has destroyed. Naruto married hyuuga's heir so. there will be heir for hyuuga. Unless they discard the old tradition of ead family and Branch family.

 

[Neji Hyūga2]

So it's like the Uchiha. One day they looked around and decided that they were the pinnacle of humanity in the NV. So they started to solely (as much as possible) breed within the Uchiha. This would increase the potency of the Sharingan if done correctly. Hence Sasuke and Itachi. It also limits undesired traits coming into the Uchiha blood. Like Fodderitus from Kiba's clan. That's why they would do clans. Plus unity, political power, consolidation, all that crap

Not at all. The Uzumaki were known for their longevity and incredible life force. This is shown in Nagato, Kushina, Karin (Survived stabbed through with Chidori spear), and Naruto to an extent.

The point of clans is to be the most powerful and eventually they figured out having multiple blood lines will increase the clans strength. Only clans who wanted to remain purebloods kept there blood lines within themselves.

Essentially it's about having power within that clan, and breeding within those clans just passes on that specific trait(depending on the clan of course).

How would Naruto and Hinata's children be decided on what clan they'd be? They are more Hyuuga than Uzumaki, so would they inherit that clan name(last name?) and just add to the Hyuuga's power? Such as having stronger bodies now with with a chance of gaining a byakugan?

 

[Neji Hyūga2]

The concept clan lost important when Hashirama and Madara decided to make a village. Only clans like Hyuuga and Uchiha still think that they are superior and need to maintain clans. Uchiha has destroyed. Naruto married hyuuga's heir so. there will be heir for hyuuga. Unless they discard the old tradition of ead family and Branch family.

So essentially the whole "clan" thing is extinct since not one clan has a pure breed anymore. Right?

 

[uchihamad]

So essentially the whole "clan" thing is extinct since not one clan has a pure breed anymore. Right?

Yes
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[Xlad]

One thing to note is how the clans before (Hyuugas for instant, Uchihas are unknown) were trying to be as pure as they can. This is to keep traits such as the Byakugan and Sharingan, respectively in order to maintain superiority and might. Notice in the recent generation however, we saw a blatant example of change (NH). So around this time, the villages decided to not be warmongers as noted by Onoki. So in this case, those clans' tradition likely wither away as those traits aren't really needed for such purposes.

So really, the purpose of clans was for organization and likely military might.

 

[Neji Hyūga2]

One thing to note is how the clans before (Hyuugas for instant, Uchihas are unknown) were trying to be as pure as they can. This is to keep traits such as the Byakugan and Sharingan, respectively in order to maintain superiority and might. Notice in the recent generation however, we saw a blatant example of change (NH). So around this time, the villages decided to not be warmongers as noted by Onoki. So in this case, those clans' tradition likely wither away as those traits aren't really needed for such purposes.

So really, the purpose of clans was for organization and likely military might.

What's the conclusion I ended up with basically. Since Hinata was the first(I assume first) Hyuuga to not marry with in the clan since they're at peace with everyone(unassumingly).