VoTE 2 Naruto and sasuke = Indra and Asura

[XY iNVeRSe]

Yet Madara achieved EMS (something superior to MS, prime of yin chakra), Hashirama achieved Mokuton (the actual entity of yang chakra). Indra and Ashura themselves weren't even the prime in yin and yang

but they still shit on hashi and ems madaraU_U

 

[Seventh Sama]

Naruto & sasuke should be stronger than ashura & indra. The latter duo don't have rinnegan or is Jin of the bijuus.

 

[KidGamer65]

fact that its been stated in the manga how many times..U_U

"Asura and Indra inherited some of my power"=/="Asura and Indra inherited half of my power each"

im relying on your guy's logic of RSM = all 9 tailed beasts inside the person. Meaning Ashura also had that ability same as kaguya who wasn't even a jin, and thus = to Naruto.

1. Kaguya doesn't have Rikudo Sage Mode. The only user is Naruto.

2. Asura didn't have Rikudo Sage Mode or Rikudo Ten Tails Coffin Seal. He didn't have the set of 9 Gudo Dama and the staff, nor did he have any kind of chakra cloak, he only had his Avatar with the 5 Gudo Dama (Most likely) spheres that he had. Probably a result of Yin Yang Release and Rikudo's Chakra. (No you don't need RSM or the Juubi to be able to use Gudo Dama, but to gain the specific set of 9 balls and a staff, you need the Juubi's power or Rikudo's Chakra and the 9 Bijuu)

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

"Asura and Indra inherited some of my power"=/="Asura and Indra inherited half of my power each"



1. Kaguya doesn't have Rikudo Sage Mode. The only user is Naruto.

2. Asura didn't have Rikudo Sage Mode or Rikudo Ten Tails Coffin Seal. He didn't have the set of 9 Gudo Dama and the staff, nor did he have any kind of chakra cloak, he only had his Avatar with the 5 Gudo Dama (Most likely) spheres that he had. Probably a result of Yin Yang Release and Rikudo's Chakra. (No you don't need RSM or the Juubi to be able to use Gudo Dama, but to gain the specific set of 9 balls and a staff, you need the Juubi's power or Rikudo's Chakra and the 9 Bijuu)

im not talking about rsm, im tallking about six paths senjutsu. which grants flight, gudo dama, and possibly the avatar (unless that was kurama) all which asura has

 

[King Of Pop]

dude naruto and sasuke>>ahura and indra.

naruto has all the bijjus alongside excess nature energy and half of rikudous chakra

indra got hes fathers chakra with ms, sasuke got half of that and unlike indra got a more powerful eye, he now combines the 9 bijjus on top of that which obv makes him>>>>>>indra

 

[OG sama]

are you basing the appearance of indra's PS as power U_U

you act as if a "new" rinnegan is that much of a difference.

from what you're saying, you assume indra is weaker because he lacks a rinnegan and has a normal looking PS U_U

whats to be said about naruto and asura[/QUOTEo]

Dude your claims don't make sense. Indra has a PS, NO BIJUU absorbed. How can a PS be equal to one with ALL BIJUU chakra absorbed into it. And WTF, so what your telling me is PS is >rinnegan. I'm not assuming anything, its common knowledge. Naruto was able to equal out a bijuu absorbed PS with his own asura avatar. Ashura equal out a PS without bijuu absorbed. Its clear as day whos stronger.

 

[OG sama]

Oh ya 100% agreed...

Ashura and Indra were direct power of Rikudou himself.

The sage still holds a little piece of the juubi's chakra.

Just like DMS Obito, he passed on his yang chakra to Ashura genetically.

While Indra inherited the sage's yin chakra (that is what the sharingan is according to DB IV.

Ashura's hard work bloomed senjustu to manipulate six Gudodama bijuu size along with the others around his neck.

Indra at 3 tomoe was able to use Perfect Susanoo...

Naruto and Sasuke are just a remanent of their chakra that was passed down from over 100 decades worth of people.

Naruto and Sasuke's chakra isn't potent enough to do that

Except HE DID have a mangekyo. It was the swirl like eye.

 

[Ken Masters]

WTF, based off what? He had a normal PS with horns. You think a PS without bijuu chakra can compare to one with ALL BIJUU chakra? Get real. The indras arrow was referring to the indra of Hinduism, not the one in Naruto. Sasuke also wouldn't know that indra had that jutsu.

based on the story hagoromo told nardo, indra is simply a solo god! he easily shits on nardo+sasky

 

[KingHashirama]

but they still shit on hashi and ems madaraU_U

Feats show otherwise.

Hashirama = unsurpassed ninja, god of shinobi, able to put down the juubi, embodiment of yang chakra itself.

Ashura = rikudou's son who wasn't even near his daddy's power.. and what else?? any achievements? feats?

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Feats show otherwise.

Hashirama = unsurpassed ninja, god of shinobi, able to put down the juubi, embodiment of yang chakra itself.

Ashura = rikudou's son who wasn't even near his daddy's power.. and what else?? any achievements? feats?

are you seriously insisting that hashirama can compete with prime asuraU_U

 

[Omar19992010]

Indra and Ashura have no feats so we can say who's stronger. Logically Naruto and Sasuke are much stronger.

Rinnegan + 50% Hagoromo Chakra >>>>Sharingan

50% Hagoromo Chakra + All nine Tailed Beasts Chakra>>>Ashura's Powers

 

[KingHashirama]

are you seriously insisting that hashirama can compete with prime asuraU_U

yea I'm insisting that. Are you insisting that someone who's power wasn't even relevent in the senju clan.. can compete with Hashirama who represents the embodiment of yang chakra?

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto and Sasuke are much stronger than Indra and Ashura,

--They both recieved power directly from Hagoromo, and recieved ALL of Yin and Yang half respectively,, indra and ashura on the other hand only inherited it, meaning that their yin and yang were not only less in quantity, but the quality itself would be inferior to naruto and sasuke due to the latters recieving it from the man himself,

--nothing suggests that ashura had all the bijuus under his command, and nothing suggests that he had absorbed a heck load of nature energy, the only thing thats the same is the avatar itself, however narutos avatar is not only larger but its far more amplified due to him having a much stronger senjutsu boost,

--indra on the other hand didnt even have a Rinnegan, he had something like an EMS, or a devolved rinnegan, and his full power was still most likely PS or Indras arrow, Sasuke on the other hand has his PS as a vessel for the bijuu, meaning that its firepower and quality of chakra is much higher therefore yielding a much stronger susanoo, and just because his strongest technique is named indras arrow, doesnt imply in any way whatsoever that the scale of their jutsu is the same,

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

yea I'm insisting that. Are you insisting that someone who's power wasn't even relevent in the senju clan.. can compete with Hashirama who represents the embodiment of yang chakra?

are you insisting that the ancestor of the senju (the strongest clan), the son of the god of shinobi, the hier to the throne, the original asura not his reincarnation (hashirama)

what does hashi have that can beat asura tell me plz.

just off of his avatar and his six path senjutsu along with flight rikidou chakra and reserves is enough to prove that he's stronger than his wash down descendant.

 

[KingHashirama]

are you insisting that the ancestor of the senju (the strongest clan), the son of the god of shinobi, the hier to the throne, the original asura not his reincarnation (hashirama)

what does hashi have that can beat asura tell me plz.

just off of his avatar and his six path senjutsu along with flight rikidou chakra and reserves is enough to prove that he's stronger than his wash down descendant.

Heir to what throne?? "son" of the god of shinobi.. now do you want to use manga with this? Because all the "sons" of gods of shinobi have been vastly inferior to the god of shinobi himself.. so this is just a bad argument over all.. I can give a rats ass about him being the son of God of shinobi. Just like I can give a rats ass about Hashirama's "mystery" kid being powerful or something. This whole "son" argument might work with others.. but it doesn't work with me.


Furthermore Hashirama is not Ashura's reincarnation.. Ashura transmigrated into Hashirama.

What does Ashura have to beat Hashirama?

He doesn't have 6 paths senjutsu. His avatar has no feats. His rserves are unknown. Try again.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Good gosh people! Are you trying to give me a headache with the mistakes on scaling that should be obvious?! First off, Naruto and Sasuke's powers are modeled after Ashura and Indra, but are clearly different. There's a difference between inheriting Hagoromo's yin or yang chakra, and inheriting rikkudo senjutsu and the rinnegan. First off, what evidence do you have Ashura was a rikkudo senjutsu user? What evidence do you have that Indra had the rinnegan? How could Indra have the rinnegan? He had the sharingan. Rikkudo senjutsu requires bijus. It's not like the bijus could exist in Asura and Indra simultaneously. Naruto and Sasuke=immensely upgraded versions of Asura and Indra

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Good gosh people! Are you trying to give me a headache with the mistakes on scaling that should be obvious?! First off, Naruto and Sasuke's powers are modeled after Ashura and Indra, but are clearly different. There's a difference between inheriting Hagoromo's yin or yang chakra, and inheriting rikkudo senjutsu and the rinnegan. First off, what evidence do you have Ashura was a rikkudo senjutsu user? What evidence do you have that Indra had the rinnegan? How could Indra have the rinnegan? He had the sharingan. Rikkudo senjutsu requires bijus. It's not like the bijus could exist in Asura and Indra simultaneously. Naruto and Sasuke=immensely upgraded versions of Asura and Indra

Do you not see asura's avatarU_U

i never said indra had the rinnegan

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Heir to what throne?? "son" of the god of shinobi.. now do you want to use manga with this? Because all the "sons" of gods of shinobi have been vastly inferior to the god of shinobi himself.. so this is just a bad argument over all.. I can give a rats ass about him being the son of God of shinobi. Just like I can give a rats ass about Hashirama's "mystery" kid being powerful or something. This whole "son" argument might work with others.. but it doesn't work with me.


Furthermore Hashirama is not Ashura's reincarnation.. Ashura transmigrated into Hashirama.

What does Ashura have to beat Hashirama?

He doesn't have 6 paths senjutsu. His avatar has no feats. His rserves are unknown. Try again.

hagoromo chose asura as his successor.

his avatar does has feats we seen them on panel Lol.

Asura has flight senjutsu, and gudo dama each capable of destroying a forest.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Naruto & Sasuke > A dead Chicken > Indra and Ashura.

 

[KidGamer65]

im not talking about rsm, im tallking about six paths senjutsu. which grants flight, gudo dama, and possibly the avatar (unless that was kurama) all which asura has

It's all the same thing. Six Path's Senjutsu refers to either Six Path's Sage Mode or Six Path's Ten Tail's Coffin Seal, one is obtained by getting the Juubi, the other is obtained by getting all 9 Bijuu and Rikudo's Chakra. Asura had neither.

-He couldn't fly.
-Did not have the set of Gudo Dama.
-The Avatar is not included, Naruto only has an Avatar because of Kurama. The Avatar is nothing but an embodiment of Asura's chakra.