Asuma was the best Jounin teacher..

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Their teamwork comes from the fact that their ancestors have been working with each other for so long and have complementary techniques

I cant remember one technique they learnt from asuma, apart from shikamaru just taking his blades after his death
 

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Because Kakashi wasn't training her.. rofl. She became a medic to be more helpful to her teammates.. not hard to understand.

Kakashi had the obligation.. not the choice.. to teach her. It was his duty, he neglected it with Naruto and Sakura.

It's actually because she wanted to be trained in something that Kakashi couldn't offer, but Tsunade could.

He only neglected to train Naruto on one occasion, and that was the Chunin Exams because he wasn't right for teaching Naruto with his style then, but was for Sasuke. Sakura wasn't progressing, and later, she opted to be trained by Tsunade instead.

Scan of Sakura going to Kakashi and he rejecting her?
 

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Their teamwork comes from the fact that their ancestors have been working with each other for so long and have complementary techniques

I cant remember one technique they learnt from asuma, apart from shikamaru just taking his blades after his death

the teamwork comes from the teacher. Sarutobi clan had been the one to keep their ino-shika-cho training in the past also. (explained with the whole 3-earings)

And Asuma basically enhanced their clan's technique.. which ended up enhancing their ino-shika-cho.

It's actually because she wanted to be trained in something that Kakashi couldn't offer, but Tsunade could.

He only neglected to train Naruto on one occasion, and that was the Chunin Exams because he wasn't right for teaching Naruto with his style then, but was for Sasuke. Sakura wasn't progressing, and later, she opted to be trained by Tsunade instead.

Scan of Sakura going to Kakashi and he rejecting her?


None of the people in team Asuma are Asuma's style...Nagato/Yahiko/Konan = not Jiraiya's style.. Hiruzen = not Tobirama's style.. STyle is irrelevant to learning. You keep bringing it up.. and it only makes my point of biased stronger.. lol. Hes not just Sasuke's teacher, hes the teacher of all 3. If he wanted his style only.. then he should've picked Sasuke alone.

Its actually because she wanted to be useful to her teammates, and saw medical ninjutsu as a way. Now she wouldn't have to do that, if Kakashi had taught her some ninjutsu himself.. which he didn't. Her learning medical ninjutsu and going to Tsunade is IRRELEVANT to Kakashi not teaching her anything.

Scan of Kakashi offering Sakura any teaching? none. ok then, my point stands. Again, its Kakashi's obligation to train all 3, and not just the one who fits his style. If it was a choice by Kakashi, then the whole crap about "ohhh show me where she went to him".. would make sense.
 
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Kakashi left Naruto in Jiraiya's hands, who taught him how to summon toads, access Kurama's chakra and use rasengan. Jiraiya was a much more suitable teacher for Naruto, just as Kakashi was a much more suitable teacher for Sasuke. Sakura was a fodder who spent all her time trying to woo Sasuke while not putting in the slightest effort to improve. She also wasn't nearly important as the last Uchiha or Konoha's jinchuriki.
 

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Kakashi left Naruto in Jiraiya's hands, who taught him how to summon toads, access Kurama's chakra and use rasengan. Jiraiya was a much more suitable teacher for Naruto, just as Kakashi was a much more suitable teacher for Sasuke. Sakura was a fodder who spent all her time trying to woo Sasuke while not putting in the slightest effort to improve. She also wasn't nearly important as the last Uchiha or Konoha's jinchuriki.

@Bold, he ain't leave shit in Jiraiya's hands.

He told Ebisu to train Naruto, and then Naruto accidently ran into Jiraiya.
 

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the teamwork comes from the teacher. Sarutobi clan had been the one to keep their ino-shika-cho training in the past also. (explained with the whole 3-earings)

And Asuma basically enhanced their clan's technique.. which ended up enhancing their ino-shika-cho.




None of the people in team Asuma are Asuma's style...Nagato/Yahiko/Konan = not Jiraiya's style.. Hiruzen = not Tobirama's style.. STyle is irrelevant to learning. You keep bringing it up.. and it only makes my point of biased stronger.. lol. Hes not just Sasuke's teacher, hes the teacher of all 3. If he wanted his style only.. then he should've picked Sasuke alone.

Its actually because she wanted to be useful to her teammates, and saw medical ninjutsu as a way. Now she wouldn't have to do that, if Kakashi had taught her some ninjutsu himself.. which he didn't. Her learning medical ninjutsu and going to Tsunade is IRRELEVANT to Kakashi not teaching her anything.

Scan of Kakashi offering Sakura any teaching? none. ok then, my point stands. Again, its Kakashi's obligation to train all 3, and not just the one who fits his style. If it was a choice by Kakashi, then the whole crap about "ohhh show me where she went to him".. would make sense.
You don't seem to understand. Kakashi was teaching all three. That's also what was happening up until the Chunin Exam arc. During the first two arcs, Kakashi tested them, then trained them by taking them on a mission to give them experience, and he taught them chakra control during the mission. After the mission, he let them enroll in the Chunin Exams. Naruto and Sasuke were the only ones that passed. Kakashi's obligation, then, was to prepare them for the second half by training them. However, time was limited. Kakashi knew his style didn't fit Naruto; this wasn't a time for general training, this was a time where he needed to enhance a specific strength of theirs. He could do that for Sasuke better than he could for Naruto because his style compliments Sasuke. Kakashi had a choice, focus on Sasuke and have someone else who is better suited train Naruto for that occasion, which would benefit them both, or train them both at once, which would result in Naruto receiving adequate training and Sasuke's benefit being squandered. Style compatibility was important for this occasion, the only occasion where Kakashi singled out Sasuke for training. Afterwards, Sasuke got the Curse Mark, and Kakashi was obligated to keep it in check for Sasuke's safety. Afterwards, he trained them together again, but then Sasuke left. After Sasuke left, Sakura went to Tsunade and Naruto went to Jiraiya.
 

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You don't seem to understand. Kakashi was teaching all three. That's also what was happening up until the Chunin Exam arc. During the first two arcs, Kakashi tested them, then trained them by taking them on a mission to give them experience, and he taught them chakra control during the mission. After the mission, he let them enroll in the Chunin Exams. Naruto and Sasuke were the only ones that passed. Kakashi's obligation, then, was to prepare them for the second half by training them. However, time was limited. Kakashi knew his style didn't fit Naruto; this wasn't a time for general training, this was a time where he needed to enhance a specific strength of theirs. He could do that for Sasuke better than he could for Naruto because his style compliments Sasuke. Kakashi had a choice, focus on Sasuke and have someone else who is better suited train Naruto for that occasion, which would benefit them both, or train them both at once, which would result in Naruto receiving adequate training and Sasuke's benefit being squandered. Style compatibility was important for this occasion, the only occasion where Kakashi singled out Sasuke for training. Afterwards, Sasuke got the Curse Mark, and Kakashi was obligated to keep it in check for Sasuke's safety. Afterwards, he trained them together again, but then Sasuke left. After Sasuke left, Sakura went to Tsunade and Naruto went to Jiraiya.
Mate i do understand.

However, Kakashi neglected in his teaching to Sakura and Naruto. Especially Naruto when he needed them. Take out Jiraiya's coincidental appearance.. Naruto pretty much would've been trashed in the chunin exams. < neglection on Kakashi's part.


Couldn't teach Sakura anything = Neglection on Kakashi's part.


I'm simply pointing out the facts.. In the end even what you pointed out only proves he favored Sasuke more.. lol. Boy sucked as a teacher yo.
 
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@Bold, he ain't leave shit in Jiraiya's hands.

He told Ebisu to train Naruto, and then Naruto accidently ran into Jiraiya.

And all Ebisu had to do was teach Naruto chakra control. Why would Kakashi waste his time teaching him something any chuunin could also teach him, when Sasuke was clearly the more pressing case at the time? Kakashi put most of his time into Sasuke because he could see Sasuke's frustration and lust for revenge, and he was trying to save from doing something drastic, which he obviously failed at, but which he had to try to do anyway. The whole reason he taught him chidori was to give him the power he wanted, which he told him to use to protect his comrades, and to reduce this frustration at Naruto's growth. If Sasuke wasn't such a problem then I doubt Kakashi would have spent so much time on him compared to the others. Also Kakashi soon learned about Jiraiya teaching Naruto.
 

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Mate i do understand.

However, Kakashi neglected in his teaching to Sakura and Naruto. Especially Naruto when he needed them. Take out Jiraiya's coincidental appearance.. Naruto pretty much would've been trashed in the chunin exams. < neglection on Kakashi's part.


Couldn't teach Sakura anything = Neglection on Kakashi's part.


I'm simply pointing out the facts..

Same thing would have happened if he trained with Kakashi. Kakashi didn't neglect Naruto just because he made a better decision that wasting the limited time trying to improve a style he isn't suited for. Like I said, this wasn't a time where you could improve on general skill, you had to focus on making your already existing strengths stronger. If time wasn't an issue, Kakashi could have taken him and trained him with Sasuke.

He did teach Sakura how to dispel Genjutsu and chakra control. Not his fault he also had saving Sasuke's life and the reconstruction of Konoha to worry about.
 

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You mean the Jounin sensei of the Konoha 12?

They all have their favorite but for me...

#1 Gai...he did in fact train his other 2 students



as you can see he also attempted to teach this to Neji and Tenten but only Lee could do it.
 

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Asuma was always with shikamaru.and gai focused on lee because he was like him and neji was a genius kakashi was better than asuma

Kakashi didn't teach Sakura. And Kakashi only taught Naruto and Sasuke like one thing.

And Team Kakashi's teamwork defeated Kaguya and saved the world.

it wasn't teamwork that beat Kaguya but character and plot induced stupidity.

Sakura had Tsunade. What was the point ?

Kakashi had a 1000 Jutsus and he didn't teach her one of them.
 

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Same thing would have happened if he trained with Kakashi. Kakashi didn't neglect Naruto just because he made a better decision that wasting the limited time trying to improve a style he isn't suited for. Like I said, this wasn't a time where you could improve on general skill, you had to focus on making your already existing strengths stronger. If time wasn't an issue, Kakashi could have taken him and trained him with Sasuke.

He did teach Sakura how to dispel Genjutsu and chakra control. Not his fault he also had saving Sasuke's life and the reconstruction of Konoha to worry about.
is this a joke? lol. "samething would have happened".. what Kakashi can't train 2 people at once? Yet Kakashi later on in part 2 improves Naruto's style.. nice. Naruto kept his style of fighting in part 2 also. No change occured. Again, if Kakashi was being biased on styles.. then he shouldn't have became a teacher. Thats what i'm trying to say. And also, its funny that Jiraiya in couple of days improved NAruto.. o-o.. Sasuke was always Kakashi's boy, just like Orochimaru was always Hiruzen's boy.


@Basic of ninja technique, and no she was already talented with chakra control.. he didn't teach her anything she didn't already have. Yes it is his fault, he could've went to the Hokage and so on regarding Sasuke rofl. But the thread isn't about "faults".. its about bad teachers and good teachers.. Which Kakashi sucked ass as a teacher..

His obligation = teach all 3, what he did = teach one with his style .


You mean the Jounin sensei of the Konoha 12?

They all have their favorite but for me...

#1 Gai...he did in fact train his other 2 students



as you can see he also attempted to teach this to Neji and Tenten but only Lee could do it.

he had been training lee for that technique prior to lee joining his team.
 

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is this a joke? lol. "samething would have happened".. what Kakashi can't train 2 people at once? Yet Kakashi later on in part 2 improves Naruto's style.. nice. Naruto kept his style of fighting in part 2 also. No change occured. Again, if Kakashi was being biased on styles.. then he shouldn't have became a teacher. Thats what i'm trying to say. And also, its funny that Jiraiya in couple of days improved NAruto.. o-o.. Sasuke was always Kakashi's boy, just like Orochimaru was always Hiruzen's boy.


@Basic of ninja technique, and no she was already talented with chakra control.. he didn't teach her anything she didn't already have. Yes it is his fault, he could've went to the Hokage and so on regarding Sasuke rofl. But the thread isn't about "faults".. its about bad teachers and good teachers.. Which Kakashi sucked ass as a teacher..

His obligation = teach all 3, what he did = teach one with his style .

He taught one with his style because the occasion demanded it and taught all three of them other times. Reread the manga.
 

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Kakashi didn't teach Sakura. And Kakashi only taught Naruto and Sasuke like one thing.



it wasn't teamwork that beat Kaguya but character and plot induced stupidity.



Kakashi had a 1000 Jutsus and he didn't teach her one of them.


:| No I'm pretty sure it was all of them working as a team.
 

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:| No I'm pretty sure it was all of them working as a team.

no it was mostly the sun and the moon seals.

He taught one with his style because the occasion demanded it and taught all three of them other times. Reread the manga.

Occasion demanded Kakashi to teach both.. Taught all three of them 1 time before that. nice. Well only people who actually got something out of the first training was Naruto and SAsuke.

Kakashi: "someone with perfect chakra control can master practically any jutsu in theory".

Kakashi : " Oh but i'm not gonna teach that person my jutsus that i know".

^^^ nice.
 
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no it was mostly the sun and the moon seals.



Occasion demanded Kakashi to teach both.. Taught all three of them 1 time before that. nice. Well only people who actually got something out of the first training was Naruto and SAsuke.

Kakashi: "someone with perfect chakra control can master practically any jutsu in theory".

Kakashi : " Oh but i'm not gonna teach that person my jutsus that i know".

^^^ nice.
Except none of them had perfect chakra control, so that's irrelevant.

He taught just one of them on one occasion. Occasion demanded Kakashi help them improve on their strength, and he had a choice:
1. Pay attention to just Sasuke because their styles complimented each other and Sasuke could get a big benefit, while leaving Naruto with someone who could teach him what he wanted to learn and was better suited for his style

2. Teach both of them at once, not allowing either to get the full potential they could have gotten with the first option.

Yeah, you'd be a great Jonin, KH.
 
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