Rikudo sun seal Hashirama an Rikudo moon Madara VS Rikudo Sasuke, Naruto and Juubito

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Now that i think about Sasuke can use Obito's Juubi and Six Paths Senjutsu to greatly powerup himself and Naruto making this battle onesided.
 

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Naruto is the clone master he makes more clones than Hashirama also his clones are using The kurama avatar a single BDFRS destroys the wood forest with ease or Tbb barrage from 5 kurama cloaked clones wood dragon is also raped by the following aswell. Get slapped Naruto's abilities already jumped to a new level God tree is the biggest thing in Naruto bar Juubi damas and most likely is the level of Hashirama wood when boosted with Hagoromo's chakra and YFRS made God tree looked like a fodder thats not even a chou YFRS Naruto makes as many clones as he did with Kaguya and nukes anything Hashirama whips up GG Hashirama.




Im trying to understand what you are trying to say but i just dont get it



Naruto would neg hashirama or Sasuke does choose your pick. Madara has not shown he could block someone from being genjutsued nor use rinnegan genjutsu without using IT If Naruto and Sasuke decides to fuse his Ashura's Avatar with his Susanoo Instant K.o for the latter.



In this logic kills me please explain yourself rather than using this horrible A > B > C bullchit

You are using SM Hashirama and EMS Madara feats to decide this match up, something even more retarded and idiotic than using A>B>C logic.

EMS Madara>EMS Sasuke, Susanoo is their defining power. Give Madara and Sasuke the SAME EXACT POWER BOOST, and Rinnegan Madara>Rinnegan Sasuke as Rinnegan Madara's Susanoo>Rinnegan Sasuke's, and the latter has no Bijuu here, so Madara kills him. This isn't debatable.

Hashirama vs Naruto is more complicated, but I'll agree that Naruto wins. Naruto got Hagoromo's power and the Bijuu while Hashirama only gets Hagoromo's power. Six Path's Sage Mode=Bijuu's power+Six Path's Sage Chakra. Hashirama won't have Six Path's Sage Mode, so his boost won't be as great as Naruto's.

So Naruto and Sasuke win this one, but not because of your shitty reasoning.
 
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I'll go with Team 2.

Don't think Obito will go down that easily if he is powered by Naruto along with his own Juubi power though.

Even if he's not, he'll continuosly regenerate unless he is completely wiped out.


He's the weakest one here but given the aid of Naruto and Sasuke, he might eventually pull of one or several of his Juubidamas.
 

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Naruto Obito and Sasuke wins med-difficulty...

At first glance the most logical answer would be founders but after thinking about it they lose rather easy... Hashirama have to stick to the abilities he have just Hagoromo buffed anything else would be fanfic(Cliche). With that being said Hashirama isn't much of a threat... Naruto or Sasuke could beat him... Naruto flight would give him the natural advantage over Hashirama BDFRS would force him to inter his bigs such as Mokujin and Shinsuusenju which Naruto would annihilate seeing as they can only move on feet... Shinsuusenju suffers the same fate... It it restricted to feet movement only which means long range aerial attacks such as LRS BDFRS would eventually take Shinsuusenju down easily... Same outcome happens between him and Sasuke...

CT constantly spawning on Shinnsuusenju and Amaterasu on it will adventually take it down as well and where is his counters for Sasuke's genjutsu clones? Useless seeing the real Hashirama will be caught and let's say his clones will fight even if he's caught Sasuke simply uses CT on the trapped Hashirama and take his chakra then proceed to neg his clones... Either way Hashirama is the weakling here...

If Madara tries to stay by Hashirama's aid the same out-come will occur... Naruto clones counter Limbo... If he decides to cloak Shinnsuusenju in Ps Naruto and Sasuke simply combine there avatars which they'll win that battle via aerial advantage...

All mind Juubito isn't even mention here... If Naruto pushes his Chakra(Which is Hagoromo buffed) inside one of Obito Juubidama's Hashirama and Madara gets erased...​
1 Issue, Hashirama has the same sunseal as Naruto meaning he also has the RSM << He has the ability to fly and etc.

Only difference with him and Naruto would be that Naruto has the tailed beasts inside of him, Hashirama has Mokuton. However, Mokuton > tailed beasts.. Hashirama can potentially do world scale Mokuton with the RSM.

I mean Madara with inexperience of mokuton was able to cast God: jukai kouton

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You are using SM Hashirama and EMS Madara feats to decide this match up, something even more retarded and idiotic than using A>B>C logic.

EMS Madara>EMS Sasuke, Susanoo is their defining power. Give Madara and Sasuke the SAME EXACT POWER BOOST, and Rinnegan Madara>Rinnegan Sasuke as Rinnegan Madara's Susanoo>Rinnegan Sasuke's, and the latter has no Bijuu here, so Madara kills him. This isn't debatable.

Hashirama vs Naruto is more complicated, but I'll agree that Naruto wins. Naruto got Hagoromo's power and the Bijuu while Hashirama only gets Hagoromo's power. Six Path's Sage Mode=Bijuu's power+Six Path's Sage Chakra. Hashirama won't have Six Path's Sage Mode, so his boost won't be as great as Naruto's.

So Naruto and Sasuke win this one, but not because of your shitty reasoning.
I do believe the RSM is independent from the tailed beasts. Since the tailed beasts have no correlation with the Senjutsu , its a mode dependent on Naruto himself. It has no connection with the beasts themselves.
 
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As a God of the Base you have been blessed to be purged of all your stupid ideas and turn to Unorthodism definition - Those who know all they're is to know about Naruto debates and 99% right.

You are using SM Hashirama and EMS Madara feats to decide this match up, something even more retarded and idiotic than using A>B>C logic.

EMS Madara>EMS Sasuke, Susanoo is their defining power. Give Madara and Sasuke the SAME EXACT POWER BOOST, and Rinnegan Madara>Rinnegan Sasuke as Rinnegan Madara's Susanoo>Rinnegan Sasuke's, and the latter has no Bijuu here, so Madara kills him. This isn't debatable.

Hashirama vs Naruto is more complicated, but I'll agree that Naruto wins. Naruto got Hagoromo's power and the Bijuu while Hashirama only gets Hagoromo's power. Six Path's Sage Mode=Bijuu's power+Six Path's Sage Chakra. Hashirama won't have Six Path's Sage Mode, so his boost won't be as great as Naruto's.

So Naruto and Sasuke win this one, but not because of your shitty reasoning.

Skrrrrrrrr this is a team fight furthermore Indra's arrow > Anything in Madara arsenal giving Sasuke the solo or his preta path turns Madara Ninjutsu to chicken scratch Susanoo wrapped over Naruto's ashura avatar = Low diff win for team Sasuke. And you saying that you agree now that Team sasuke Spanks but not because of my post is you try to keep what little pride you have left think before you post child. I would make you a disciple but honestly its not worth my time you either have it or you don't.

Global wood style

Making his wood style global is useless when Naruto is chopping him down right then and there
 
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As a God of the Base you have been blessed to be purged of all your stupid ideas and turn to Unorthodism definition - Those who know all they're is to know about Naruto debates and 99% right.

You are using SM Hashirama and EMS Madara feats to decide this match up, something even more retarded and idiotic than using A>B>C logic.

EMS Madara>EMS Sasuke, Susanoo is their defining power. Give Madara and Sasuke the SAME EXACT POWER BOOST, and Rinnegan Madara>Rinnegan Sasuke as Rinnegan Madara's Susanoo>Rinnegan Sasuke's, and the latter has no Bijuu here, so Madara kills him. This isn't debatable.

Hashirama vs Naruto is more complicated, but I'll agree that Naruto wins. Naruto got Hagoromo's power and the Bijuu while Hashirama only gets Hagoromo's power. Six Path's Sage Mode=Bijuu's power+Six Path's Sage Chakra. Hashirama won't have Six Path's Sage Mode, so his boost won't be as great as Naruto's.

So Naruto and Sasuke win this one, but not because of your shitty reasoning.

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Skrrrrrrrr this is a team fight furthermore Indra's arrow > Anything in Madara arsenal giving Sasuke the solo or his preta path turns Madara Ninjutsu to chicken scratch Susanoo wrapped over Naruto's ashura avatar = Low diff win for team Sasuke. And you saying that you agree now that Team sasuke Spanks but not because of my post is you try to keep what little pride you have left think before you post child. I would make you a disciple but honestly its not worth my time you either have it or you don't.
 
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Hashirama and Madara obviously win this. There should be no debate. This of course, it only true if you don't use the cheap argument of Obito creating a barrier and blowing the entire thing up with a tailed beast bomb. Sasuke doesn't have Indra's Arrow here, as Rikudou Sasuke is one with the seal. Madara, as a teammate, takes Hashirama's Sage Mode into himself, and as Hashirama summons the thousand-hand Budhha, Madara wraps it in Perfect Susano'o.

Buddha = Perfect Kurama
Perfect Buddha > Perfect Kurama
 

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Making his wood style global is useless when Naruto is chopping him down right then and there
This is where you are wrong. Naruto ain't chopping Mokuton on a global scale.. lol.

At base: Hashirama > Naruto
With mokuton and Kurama : Hashirama > Naruto
with normal sm : Hashirama > Naruto

with RSM : Hashirama > Naruto

Hashirama's pure skills are superior to NAruto's.. so with the same "technique" the one with more skills will be more superior.
 

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1 Issue, Hashirama has the same sunseal as Naruto meaning he also has the RSM << He has the ability to fly and etc.

Only difference with him and Naruto would be that Naruto has the tailed beasts inside of him, Hashirama has Mokuton. However, Mokuton > tailed beasts.. Hashirama can potentially do world scale Mokuton with the RSM.

I mean Madara with inexperience of mokuton was able to cast God: jukai kouton

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The ability to fly doesn't come from the seal(Rikkudo chakra) it's the Bijuu + Rikkudo chakra combination seeing as Sasuke cannot fly and he has a seal as well... Unless you can provide feats proving this sit down... Mokuton does>Bijuu but the combination renders mokuton moot... The God tree was in-hanced by Kaguya's chakra yet it was no match for YFRS... Hashirama Mokuton wouldn't be bigger nor stronger than the God tree which Naruto attacks before going to into RM butchered...

Madara's chakra in far more potent and stronger than Hashirama's would be even with the seal seeing as Madara has Juubi chakra,Rikkudou chakra, and a small sum of Kaguya's chakra which makes the user immortal seeing as Madara become such after gained her chakra...

God Jukai Kouton comes with Infinite Tsukuyomi... Seeing as Kaguya isn't a Mokuton wielder nor Ninjutsu wielder and yet Let's say he could use it it would only pre-long his death...​
 
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