Alive BM Minato vs EMS Madara ( NO Mokuton and Rinnegan ) Read.

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It's sad that people still don't know that 50% Perfect Jinchuuriki Kurama is far more powerful than a wild 100% Kurama. Honestly, how do people not know this. It's been established so many times that a perfect Jin is able to focus and control the power more efficiently. How else could Naruto match 5 tailed beasts on his own in power, he even knocked them all down with a single kurama roar.

Madara doesn't stand a chance. Perfect susanoo only rivals the power of a tailed beast, it doesn't surpass it in any way. And being that a Jin is more powerful that a regular tailed beat, Minato should win high diff at most.

Wow, the amount of wank in this is way to much.

First of all, in the Viz, it said that Ps destructive power can only be matched by a bijuu, he meant that noboby else but a bijuu has the power to match the destructive power of his PS, he didn't mean that PS=Bijuu

Second, you go by false hope (what i stated before), i go by feats, there is no way BM Naruto or BM Minato stans a chance against EMS Madara, especially with Kyuubi, the Tbbs that Minato make are way to weak to penetrate his PS, his PS slash however negs Minato, we have not even see Minato make a tbb but oh well, let's just say that he does, it doesn't change a thing, PS casually tanks the Bijuudama and if Minato were to load a large one, Madara would simply slash him with PS before he completed bijuudama ( which wouldn't harm Madara anyway ) and if Minato runs away, he loses.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Let's be real, i know that you love nardo, but even you know that BSM Naruto has no chance of winning against Madara w Kyuubi

Bro as I stated you are underestimating him.

Didn't only bm naruto drag the shit out of all bijuus?


So kyuubi alone wouldn't be a big deal for bsm naruto.

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Can madara keep up with bsm narutos speed while bm naruto was more than fast

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PS madara can't tank bsm narutos bijuu dama.
Don't you remember that he keep up with juubito with his bsm.

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FYI, didn't naruto defeat sasuke with his bsm while sasuke had the all bijuus. Get your facts straight. Be realistic.

 

[Limbo]

To those saying 'Madara's unstabilised PS tanked 100% Kuramas TBB, 50% Kurama wont do anything', Kurama didn't use his full power TBB that was a regular one.
Full power TBB from Kurama would be something like the blast from Naruto vs bijuus clash(since half of that blast was created from 50% Kurama, logically full Kurama could do that x2 so yea you get it).

Anyways OT: BM Minato wins mid-high diff.

Really? 100% Kurama is 2x the size of Naruto's BM, that tbb was twice as big as 100% Kurama's head, and that means that the TBB that Kurama made was 4x bigger than Naruto's BM head, that is quite large, Minato cannot damage Madara and he can tank whatever he throws at him, he can also tkae Minato down with his PS.

Madara isn't as strong as Hahirama, in fact there is quite a gap between them. Only reason he could last so long against him is due to the nine tails. Without Kurama, Hashirama would've stomped him.

Is that so? Then how come he lasted so long after Hashirama took Kurama away? and even managed to injure Hashirama heavily?

 

[Zee U]

Ok i clearly Disagree :|

Why would you disagree? Anyone knows that Bijuu Mode Minato stomps EMS Madara. EMS Madara with Kyuubi isn't also enough to beat him, let alone Madara without PS.

 

[Limbo]

Why would you disagree? Anyone knows that Bijuu Mode Minato stomps EMS Madara. EMS Madara with Kyuubi isn't also enough to beat him, let alone Madara without PS.

Lmao, are you serious? Wow, this is how retarded the 2014 members are eh?

 

[BLAZE]

Why would you disagree? Anyone knows that Bijuu Mode Minato stomps EMS Madara. EMS Madara with Kyuubi isn't also enough to beat him, let alone Madara without PS.

becoz of this
Madara can use Perfect Susanoo.
@bolded disagreed

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Lmao, are you serious? Wow, this is how retarded the 2014 members are eh?

You are only words. Can you tell me how madara would defeat bm minato or bsm naruto?

 

[Limbo]

You are only words. Can you tell me how madara would defeat bm minato or bsm naruto?

Lmao sure, are we talking about Madara with Kyuubi or Madara w/o it?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Wow, the amount of wank in this is way to much.

First of all, in the Viz, it said that Ps destructive power can only be matched by a bijuu, he meant that noboby else but a bijuu has the power to match the destructive power of his PS, he didn't mean that PS=Bijuu

Second, you go by false hope (what i stated before), i go by feats, there is no way BM Naruto or BM Minato stans a chance against EMS Madara, especially with Kyuubi, the Tbbs that Minato make are way to weak to penetrate his PS, his PS slash however negs Minato, we have not even see Minato make a tbb but oh well, let's just say that he does, it doesn't change a thing, PS casually tanks the Bijuudama and if Minato were to load a large one, Madara would simply slash him with PS before he completed bijuudama ( which wouldn't harm Madara anyway ) and if Minato runs away, he loses.

doesn't matter what the viz said. It still means that a bijuu and ps power match each other. But that doesn't take into consideration the power of a perfect jin.

Why are you bringing up ems madara with kyuubi, that's not in the thread conditions. You're foolish if you think PS slash can take out a tailed beast perfect jin. 1 swing of kuramas tails can crumble mountains, this was establiashed in the very first chapter. Proved by the fact that narutos tail perfectly stalemated with a sasukes ps sword. So don't give me that crap.

Minato made a tailed beast bomb in collaboration with naruto. The first technique a a jin learns in BM is a tabb, as stated by Gyuki. Not to mention that a tailed beast can take over the host and perform all its abilities. Minato doesn't even have to be in control. PS tanking tbb, LOL you are funny. So pls tell me how many can he tank? Tailed beast bomb barrage allows a Jin to fire off at least 5 at once. You're kidding if you think the ps won't be ripped open by 5 of them at once. Then you have the fact that kurama bijuu mode makes gathering senjutsu much faster. If minato adds senjutsu to his tailed beast bombs, then madara is in trouble.

Madara can't slash minato because he can teleport out of harms way. Chakra arms allow Minato to spread kunai at ridiculous ranges, he can mark susanoo with ease. Any slash and minato just teleports behind susanoo. It's funny you think minato can't defend him self while charging a tbb. Not to mention that tbb barrage doesn't need any charge up.

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You ask why madara lasted so long with hashirama afterwards lol. Can't you use your brain to figure that out yourself. It was exhausing fighting both madara and kurmaa simultaneously. Madara went all out, Hashirama didn't want to kill his friend at all. He didn't even go sage mode from the start. He only used it as a last resort because he had not choice. Imagine madara had no kurama and hashirama went full intent to kill with sage mode. Madara would've been wrecked, Fact!

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara wins.
Only BSM can match PS.
Minato has no massive TBBs needed to demolish PS
FTG is the only thing that gonna keep minato alive.
In the end if not killed minato is easily outlasted as BM duration is fairly small compared to whole day of fighting senju.

 

[BLAZE]

doesn't matter what the viz said. It still means that a bijuu and ps power match each other. But that doesn't take into consideration the power of a perfect jin.

Sasuke Six Path enhanced PS was clashing equally with Six Path RSM Bijuu Mode enhanced Perfect jin Naruto.
And Maddy's PS is twice the size of Sasuke's

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Lmao sure, are we talking about Madara with Kyuubi or Madara w/o it?

Lol so you are considering madara without kyuubi too in one of the person who could defeat minato.lol

Just tell me how ems madara with kyuubi would defeat bsm naruto or bm minato.

 

[Endles Waltz]

It's sad that people still don't know that 50% Perfect Jinchuuriki Kurama is far more powerful than a wild 100% Kurama. Honestly, how do people not know this. It's been established so many times that a perfect Jin is able to focus and control the power more efficiently. How else could Naruto match 5 tailed beasts on his own in power, he even knocked them all down with a single kurama roar.

Madara doesn't stand a chance. Perfect susanoo only rivals the power of a tailed beast, it doesn't surpass it in any way. And being that a Jin is more powerful that a regular tailed beat, Minato should win high diff at most.

@bold 1: That sounds ridiculous Im sorry.

@bold 2: Kyuubi is much stronger than the other tailed beasts.

@bold 3: Quite the opposite, Madara using his EMS powers alone crushed the spirits of all 5 kages. It's well established that Hashirama and Madara are legendary shinobi that dwarf the feats of all others, hence their statues at the valley.

I know you are a Minato fan but you can't put him on the level of Madara, the legendary Sage of Six Paths' power was divided and passed down to his 2 sons Ashura and Indra, and Hashirama and Madara are their transmigrants who constantly changed the maps due to their destructive power...

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I don't know how this thread is even logical, I am not a Madara fan but come on guys we have been fed this for the entire war arc...

 

[shelke]

Madara's V4 tanked a BD from a full powered Kurama, and ON his sword at that. When tsunade broke apart Susano'o's sword easily and couldn't break apart those Susano'o clones proved that swords are much much brittle compared to the compact main body. It also took thousands upon thousand of punches from the statue and the started to flake off. Minato's BD - he only combined his chakra with BM Naruto - from a 50 % Kurama is not doing anything, when Madara can easily interrupt it with his PS sword slash that is far far quicker by comparison.

You know what will happen if it's interrupted? It'll explode on his face, like it happened with Naruto against Deva, when he dropped a rock on his head. All Madara has to do is keep up the slashes and Minato would be done after a while. The whole Avatar is not going to Teleport left and right in hopes of avoiding slashes. Even the thought is absurd.

Minato has nothing to break open the Susano'o, whilst Madara's slash alone would give him a run for his money. he wins mid difference most.

 

[Izanamı.]

Minato low-mid diff. Half of Kyuubi tanked Juubi's laser with its tails. Tails are the strongest part of Kyuubi's avatar.
PS can't even dream of creating an attack on par with Juubi's laser that evaporates multiple mountain ranges.
PS slashes are tanked with minimal damage from Kyuubi's tails.

Minato touches PS and teleports Madara out of it with FTG chakra link and kills him or creates a biju dama that dwarfs bijus busting Madara along with his PS for the lolz.​

 

[Milliana]

Minato wins, but he's not STOMPING.

 

[Gold Lightning]

@bold 1: That sounds ridiculous Im sorry.

@bold 2: Kyuubi is much stronger than the other tailed beasts.

@bold 3: Quite the opposite, Madara using his EMS powers alone crushed the spirits of all 5 kages. It's well established that Hashirama and Madara are legendary shinobi that dwarf the feats of all others, hence their statues at the valley.

I know you are a Minato fan but you can't put him on the level of Madara, the legendary Sage of Six Paths' power was divided and passed down to his 2 sons Ashura and Indra, and Hashirama and Madara are their transmigrants who constantly changed the maps due to their destructive power...

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I don't know how this thread is even logical, I am not a Madara fan but come on guys we have been fed this for the entire war arc...

Perfect Jin>>>>>Regular tailed beast.

If you don't know that then don't bother arguing with me

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

@bold 1: That sounds ridiculous Im sorry.

@bold 2: Kyuubi is much stronger than the other tailed beasts.

@bold 3: Quite the opposite, Madara using his EMS powers alone crushed the spirits of all 5 kages. It's well established that Hashirama and Madara are legendary shinobi that dwarf the feats of all others, hence their statues at the valley.

I know you are a Minato fan but you can't put him on the level of Madara, the legendary Sage of Six Paths' power was divided and passed down to his 2 sons Ashura and Indra, and Hashirama and Madara are their transmigrants who constantly changed the maps due to their destructive power...

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I don't know how this thread is even logical, I am not a Madara fan but come on guys we have been fed this for the entire war arc...

Just stop there bro.

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Too much bs in one post.

You are only taking one sided facts while bm minatos kyuubi cloak is also very big and better feats than PS.

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[Kamui Sama]

BM Minato high-diffs

 

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doesn't matter what the viz said. It still means that a bijuu and ps power match each other. But that doesn't take into consideration the power of a perfect jin.

Doesn't matter what the Viz said? Lmao, the viz said that the destructive power of PS can only be rivaled by the Bijuu's, that means that anything that Minato throws out, such as the Tbb, it will get countered by a PS slash, seeing as 1 regular tbb destroys 1 mountain, and Madara's PS negged 2 meteors and 2 mountains which means that a casual swipe of it's sword is as strong as a chakra pumped TBB.

Why are you bringing up ems madara with kyuubi, that's not in the thread conditions.

Becuause some people on this thread were saying that Madara w Kyuubi<Minato, this was meant for them as well.

Your foolish if you think 1 swing of Ps can tank out a perfect jin

I don't see why not, BM cloak has not shown anything that is remotely close at tanking something that destroys 2 meteors and 2 mountains with no diff at all.

1 swing of kuramas tails can crumble mountains, this was establiashed in the very first chapter. Proved by the fact that narutos tail perfectly stalemated with a sasukes ps sword. So don't give me that crap.

We've not seen Naruto's tail destroy a mountain, it is all hype, no feats.

Yeah, that was a Rikudo mode powered Bijuu mode, not the fodder bm minato has.

PS tanking tbb, LOL you are funny. So pls tell me how many can he tank?

Yeah, he did tank 100& kurama tbb point blank with no diff at all, and that was unstabilized, how many you ask? well here you go

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He survived the explosion of 13 TBB made by 100% kurama with Ps swords in them along with 1000 hands attack, that was what it took to destroy his PS.

Then you have the fact that kurama bijuu mode makes gathering senjutsu much faster. If minato adds senjutsu to his tailed beast bombs, then madara is in trouble.

You mean the 10 second SM that minato has?

Madara can't slash minato because he can teleport out of harms way. Chakra arms allow Minato to spread kunai at ridiculous ranges, he can mark susanoo with ease.

So he teleports away? Oh well, Madara can slash all the time, it doesnät take much to wave ur arms, and eventually, Minato's chakra will run out and he will be doomed.

Any slash and minato just teleports behind susanoo. It's funny you think minato can't defend him self while charging a tbb. Not to mention that tbb barrage doesn't need any charge up.

I've already countered your TBB argument, those small tbbs aint gonna harm the PS.