Alive BM Minato vs EMS Madara ( NO Mokuton and Rinnegan ) Read.

[Thundergod123]

Imagine Minato replaced Hashirama against EMS Madara ( Without Kyuubi, Mokuton and Rinnegan ), who will win? Before you post, please read what I have to say first, thank you.

1. Minato gets full knowledge about Madara due to Hashirama, Tobirama and Hiruzen passed down for him.

2. Madara doesn't know Minato's full abilities.

3. Madara can use Perfect Susanoo.


Here is my own opinion:

I think Minato would get stomped if he just kept TRYING to Rasengan Madara's Susano'o until it broke, even he had Kurama with him. Minato has no destructive feats even CLOSE to harming even the ribs of Susano'o, except of Bijuu Dama, though. We never saw it, however he was the one who created Rasengan and he knows well how to use it.

But Minato has shown to be a good sensor too I believe. Even if he didn't know, he's a genius and can probably see that Susanoo is straining to the user. He's like Itachi, an observer rather than someone that takes immediate action without thinking.

Minato's Yin-Kurama PART seems to be very co-operating, though. It's not like Minato has to do it by himself, he could let the fox take over (both KN4 and KN6 did pretty solid bijuu bombs when Naruto had no idea what it was). Minato used Reaper Death Seal, so he can use it.

I think Minato has the means to beat Madara in some of these cases. Minato is very fast and has the benefits of using Sage Mode for more damaging attacks.


Please give me a reason on why one of them wins, and no fanboying allowed.

 

[Torche]

Minato likely wins more times than not imo. PS is the debatable part.

 

[Conspirator.]

BM Minato demolishes EMS Madara w/o the Kyuubi. With the Kyuubi, Madara should win.

 

[Thundergod123]

BM Minato demolishes EMS Madara w/o the Kyuubi. With the Kyuubi, Madara should win.

Well, Madara can use Perfect Susanoo though.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Minato has extremely fast reflexes since he managed to dodge 3rd Raikage's attack, but then again, so does madara since he countered Tobiramas S/T. Other than that I don't see how Minato could win. Maybe it'd be a draw since neither will get the chance to lay attacks on each other. Or maybe Madara could finally reveal his two other EMS techs? I dunno but madara has the edge here​

 

[Zee U]

Minato casually fires a Bijuudama at Madara and calls it a day.

 

[Yokaze Sama]

Madaras PS already tanked a TB from Kurama in point blank range, so I don't think so that Minato could get through it.
He would be death before Madara even deactivates his Susano'o.

That's my opinion though.

 

[Limbo]

Madara's unstabilized PS sword tanked 100% Kurama Bijuu dama, he tanks 50% kurama's bijuu dama neg diff

Madara wins more times than not, the only way i see minat winning is by outlasting him or surviving for 24 hours

 

[BLAZE]

Minato casually fires a Bijuudama at Madara and calls it a day.

Ok i clearly Disagree :|

 

[Limbo]

Minato casually fires a Bijuudama at Madara and calls it a day.

real doe? Madara's unstabilized PS tanked 100% Kurama's TBB head on, there is noway fodderito can even damage his PS

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Imo its BSM Naruto>EMS Madara>BM Minato

PS would obliterate Minato

 

[Limbo]

Imo its BSM Naruto>EMS Madara>BM Minato

PS would obliterate Minato

Nah, it's full EMS Madara with Kyuubi > BSM Naruto >> BM Minato

Kuyybi is a part of EMS Madara's arsenal.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Madara rivaled the god of shinobi Hashirama, their epic battles with Hashirama's Mokuton Senpou and Madara's Eternal Mangekyou made all other hokages look like children.

These two are on a whole other level than all other shinobi, only people who can rival them are their predessesors Ashura and Indra and their father the Sage, and more recently Naruto and Sasuke after gaining the Sage's powers and also being transmigrants themselves.

Minato has no chance.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Minato has extremely fast reflexes since he managed to dodge 3rd Raikage's attack, but then again, so does madara since he countered Tobiramas S/T. Other than that I don't see how Minato could win. Maybe it'd be a draw since neither will get the chance to lay attacks on each other. Or maybe Madara could finally reveal his two other EMS techs? I dunno but madara has the edge here​

Lol you are manipulating facts. When did ems madara dodge tobiramas s/t. It was rinnegan madara with hashis sage mode…

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Nah, it's full EMS Madara with Kyuubi > BSM Naruto >> BM Minato

Kuyybi is a part of EMS Madara's arsenal.

Lol bsm naruto >>>> ems madara with kyuubi.

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[Limbo]

Lol you are manipulating facts. When did ems madara dodge tobiramas s/t. It was rinnegan madara with hashis sage mode…

tbh, it doesn't really matter, minato is never going to get that close, he cant get inside PS

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Lol you are manipulating facts. When did ems madara dodge tobiramas s/t. It was rinnegan madara with hashis sage mode…

You're right. But still, my point stands.​

 

[Limbo]

Lol bsm naruto >>>> ems madara with kyuubi.

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Let's be real, i know that you love nardo, but even you know that BSM Naruto has no chance of winning against Madara w Kyuubi

 

[AizenSosuke]

To those saying 'Madara's unstabilised PS tanked 100% Kuramas TBB, 50% Kurama wont do anything', Kurama didn't use his full power TBB that was a regular one.
Full power TBB from Kurama would be something like the blast from Naruto vs bijuus clash(since half of that blast was created from 50% Kurama, logically full Kurama could do that x2 so yea you get it).

Anyways OT: BM Minato wins mid-high diff.

 

[Gold Lightning]

It's sad that people still don't know that 50% Perfect Jinchuuriki Kurama is far more powerful than a wild 100% Kurama. Honestly, how do people not know this. It's been established so many times that a perfect Jin is able to focus and control the power more efficiently. How else could Naruto match 5 tailed beasts on his own in power, he even knocked them all down with a single kurama roar.

Madara doesn't stand a chance. Perfect susanoo only rivals the power of a tailed beast, it doesn't surpass it in any way. And being that a Jin is more powerful that a regular tailed beat, Minato should win high diff at most.

Madara isn't as strong as Hahirama, in fact there is quite a gap between them. Only reason he could last so long against him is due to the nine tails. Without Kurama, Hashirama would've stomped him.