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[LuckyMan]

Danzo's Fuuton will not result in that much damage, since Samaheda will suck the chakra out of Danzo's fuutons before it does damage to Kisame. Just like Kisame's samaheda sucked off enough chakra from Bee's v2 lariat to ensure his survival. The exact same thing happens with Danzo's fuutons. Once the water dome comes out and Kisame merges with Samaheda, Danzo has no chance. The only way he can win is if he somehow lands his juinjutsu on Kisame.

So that was all typed up assuming Danzo doesn't blitz and eats him in CQC?

 

[Conspirator.]

So that was all typed up assuming Danzo doesn't blitz and eats him in CQC?

How on earth is Danzo going to "blitz" a man who outmanoeuvred base Bee and v1 in a CQC, and even blocked attacks from Gated gai a few times. He was also described as having "superhuman strenght" by Gai, a taijutsu master. Without the cursed seal, Kisame wrecks Danzo in a taijutsu/kenjutsu fight.

 

[swirlyshark]

^^ this he did keep up with gai in CQC and killer bee in a kenjutsu fight

 

[Stark]

Kisame decimates, Kisame with his monstrous chakra can outlast Danzo and has counters to most of his techniques. Only Hiddensound would argue Danzo's victory, with that blind Bolton fanboyism. Kisame > Killer Bee > Danzo basically.

 

[LuckyMan]

How on earth is Danzo going to "blitz" a man who outmanoeuvred base Bee and v1 in a CQC, and even blocked attacks from Gated gai a few times. He was also described as having "superhuman strenght" by Gai, a taijutsu master. Without the cursed seal, Kisame wrecks Danzo in a taijutsu/kenjutsu fight.

You're over exaggerating to make the feat look better than what it is.

>Bee runs towards Kisame with sword
>Kisame blocks sword thrust with Samaheda
>Bee headbuts Kisame

Really? How do you even rank that as a CQC fight? Come on now cut the crap. Using a panel like that to claim Kisame outmaneuvers base and V1 Bee in CQC is ridiculous and retarded, as if those panels were their best examples of their CQC prowess or as if Kisame actually outmaneuvered him and didn't get hit by Headbutt. Pure nonsense and over exaggeration. If you're going to stick to that argument you'll also have to acknowledge a whole bunch of other ridiculous panels as actual legit feats too.

Blocked Gated Gai? What Gated Gai?

You mean

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You got cataracts or something nicca? Are you not seeing Kisame trying to swing at Gai and catches that young sweet chin music? He didn't block anything. He couldn't even react to guard himself. Zero. Got blitzed kicked then stomped.

His strength is non-factor. Danzos eats him in CQC, Sharingan Precog evades his attacks and Danzo wrecks. Theres always that sharingan eye genjutsu too. Then theres Izanagi and the respawn that Kisame can't even react to. He can shoot Mokuton out his arm and impale him too. He can disarm Samaheda and once that happens its gg.

 

[Beans2]

You're over exaggerating to make the feat look better than what it is.

>Bee runs towards Kisame with sword
>Kisame blocks sword thrust with Samaheda
>Bee headbuts Kisame

Really? How do you even rank that as a CQC fight? Come on now cut the crap. Using a panel like that to claim Kisame outmaneuvers base and V1 Bee in CQC is ridiculous and retarded, as if those panels were their best examples of their CQC prowess or as if Kisame actually outmaneuvered him and didn't get hit by Headbutt. Pure nonsense and over exaggeration. If you're going to stick to that argument you'll also have to acknowledge a whole bunch of other ridiculous panels as actual legit feats too.

Blocked Gated Gai? What Gated Gai?

You mean

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You got cataracts or something nicca? Are you not seeing Kisame trying to swing at Gai and catches that young sweet chin music? He didn't block anything. He couldn't even react to guard himself. Zero. Got blitzed kicked then stomped.

His strength is non-factor. Danzos eats him in CQC, Sharingan Precog evades his attacks and Danzo wrecks. Theres always that sharingan eye genjutsu too. Then theres Izanagi and the respawn that Kisame can't even react to. He can shoot Mokuton out his arm and impale him too. He can disarm Samaheda and once that happens its gg.

You obviously need to re read the Bee vs Kisame fight since it seems you've forgotten a lot of it. If this

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isn't outmaneuvering V1 Bee than what do you call it? Kisame doesn't even need to react dude, the sword does it on its own. Kisame

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Bee's lightning-enhanced pencil coming at him from a blind spot despite not noticing it until it was mere inches from his face. Kisame was in an extremely

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with Master Kin pressuring him with a giant axe from one side, a raiton enhanced sword coming at him from another side, and Bee charging him from a third angle - yet Kisame

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to all three attacks and in a split second, shoving Master Kin away, swinging around Samehada to block Bee's attack while at the same time absorbing the raiton off both swords. And Danzo doesn't even come close to V1 Bee in terms of speed. Come on man, stop downplaying Kisame's reaction feats and admit you're wrong. Danzo doesn't stand a chance at blitzing Kisame, especially with a 50 meter distance, and he gets destroyed if he tries to engage in close combat.

@Bold funny how you always try to downplay the sharingan since you hate on Uchihas but when Danzo is using it, it suddenly becomes invaluable. If you keep trying to put up dumb arguments I will not hesitate to stomp you in a debate, fodder. I can continue this for a very long time.

 

[Unorthodox]

Kisame wins this

 

[Conspirator.]

You're over exaggerating to make the feat look better than what it is.

>Bee runs towards Kisame with sword
>Kisame blocks sword thrust with Samaheda
>Bee headbuts Kisame

Actually no, I am not exaggerating the feat at all. Here's what ACTUALLY happened:

-Sabu attacked Kisame with his axe.
-Kisame blocked the attack, obviously
-Bee fired a raiton projectile at Kisame(while Sabu was attacking him as a diversion)
-While all this was happening, Bee repositioned himself behind Kisame(in his blind spot), and then tried dismember him via a raiton sword.(with a shunshin blitz).

Despite Bee having his partner as a distraction, Kisame STILL blocked Bee's attack, and only a received a minor wound from the projectile.(so he absorbed the chakra from it). The fact that Bee couldn't get a proper hit on Kisame, inspite of the fact that he had his partner as a diversion shows that Kisame's speed and reactions>>base bee.

Really? How do you even rank that as a CQC fight?

Of course it's a CQC fight. What is it if it's not?

Come on now cut the crap. Using a panel like that to claim Kisame outmaneuvers base and V1 Bee in CQC is ridiculous and retarded, as if those panels were their best examples of their CQC prowess or as if Kisame actually outmaneuvered him and didn't get hit by Headbutt.

Actually, no. I already showed above that Kisame is above base bee in reactions. I was talking about

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scan, where Kisame managed to siphon Bee's chakra, and avoid getting hit at all by the v1 cloak. Kisame's/Samaheda's reactions> v1 Killer bee's. v1 Bee's speed is heads and shoulders above Danzo, so he has ZERO percent chance of blitzing Kisame.

Pure nonsense and over exaggeration. If you're going to stick to that argument you'll also have to acknowledge a whole bunch of other ridiculous panels as actual legit feats too.

Not really.

Blocked Gated Gai? What Gated Gai?

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You got cataracts or something nicca? Are you not seeing Kisame trying to swing at Gai and catches that young sweet chin music? He didn't block anything. He couldn't even react to guard himself. Zero. Got blitzed kicked then stomped.

First of all, that was Kisame at 30% power. Second of all,

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is one of the scans I meant. Kisame was weakened severely, yet he still blocked a leaf hurricane from Gai without Samaheda. Those scans you mentioned about were not what I was talking about, although it's worth noting that Kisame wasn't outhit by Gai(when at 100%) by that much. In other words, what I was referring to was Gai in his "lower" gates, not 6th or 7th gate Gai. Either way, even Base Gai is faster than Danzo, and Kisame was reacting to him perfectly in a weakened state as I've shown. So Kisame beats down Danzo in a CQC

His strength is non-factor. Danzos eats him in CQC, Sharingan Precog evades his attacks and Danzo wrecks. Theres always that sharingan eye genjutsu too. Then theres Izanagi and the respawn that Kisame can't even react to. He can shoot Mokuton out his arm and impale him too. He can disarm Samaheda and once that happens its gg.

Sharingan precog may help Danzo evade some of Kisame attacks, but he has no way of actually killing Kisame in CQC thanks to Samaheda. The sword should also help him break out of genjutsu, or water clones can be used to counter it. Also, even with the Izangai respawn, Danzo has no way of killing Kisame, and his mokuton is probably one of the weakest in the series. Samaheda cuts it to shreds.

OT: Kisame takes out Danzo with no more than mid difficulty. Once the waterdome comes out and Kisame fuses with Samaheda, Danzo gets pooped on.

 

[Bogard]

Kisame is a bad match-up for Danzo. It takes a considerable amount of chakra for Danzo to maintain Izanagi and Kisame is a chakra absorption user. He could even take hefty amount of a tailed beast having the second highest amount of chakra with Samehada(6tails worth of chakra at once).

Now provided in case the chakra isn't visible, it needs physical contact to be effective. But considering Danzo's pitful reflexes, i don't think it would be particularly hard for Kisame to manage a close combat absorption. If not possible, his long range shark missile could also do the job. And when it will happen, with Danzo starting to worry about his chakra reserves, he couldn't even maintain Hashirama's cells that will start burrying him alive. Without KA he doesn't have much of a chance and the knowledge goes to Kisame's advantage here

 

[HiddenSound]

Kisame decimates, Kisame with his monstrous chakra can outlast Danzo and has counters to most of his techniques. Only Hiddensound would argue Danzo's victory, with that blind Bolton fanboyism. Kisame > Killer Bee > Danzo basically.

Juinjutsu followed by Futon: Danzō's Flying Kisses gg, Stark fapboy

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kisame would easily win... Even with K,A being usable... All of Danzo fuutons techs gets absorbed... Baku meets GSB and gets ended... Once Kisame absorbs Samehada it's game over...

 

[Beyonce]

On paper, Kisame out classes Danzo. Truth be told. But, Danzo possesses a large amount of skills and just unpredictability that makes him more of a problamatic foe. I'd say it could go either way.

I thought you were banned TAC

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OT: Kisame comfortably wins this match

 

[Misconception]

You're going to want to ask Kidgamer65, icelerate, or Kifflom.

Bold when did Icelerate become the best debater? Red who is Kifflom? Kidgamer is the only guy right there that can be called one of the best debaters...​

 

[HiddenSound]

Kisame would easily win... Even with K,A being usable... All of Danzo fuutons techs gets absorbed... Baku meets GSB and gets ended... Once Kisame absorbs Samehada it's game over...

lel .

 

[TRE MERCER]

lel .

Samehada simply feels his chakra disturbed and snaps him out of it simple...

 

[HiddenSound]

Samehada simply feels his chakra disturbed and snaps him out of it simple...

Point point

 

[TRE MERCER]

Point point

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