Naruto/Madara lightspeed reactions/combat speed confirmed. U_U

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You know what if madara move his head in light speed, madara head will look on the other side in a moment and no speed line will be draw there, it look instant in short distance, it like Msdara head is actually on other side already and no way Naruto can react to that without precognition.
 

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No, many don't.

To make it clear it for those who don't, the humans with the best reactions could only just "dodge" light if it started from point A at nearly 239,000 miles away.

That's provided they could see it and expected it to come.

I agree that many probably don't, but you are comparing Naruto and Madara, to normal humans? I don't think you get how much faster Naruto and Madara are compared to normal humans. Itachi reacted to lightning. He is probably comparable to SM Naruto. Now recall all of the powerups (and their magnitude) Naruto has undergone since then.

You know what if madara move his head in light speed, madara head will look on the other side in a moment and no speed line will be draw there, it look instant in short distance, it like Msdara head is actually on other side already and no way Naruto can react to that without precognition.

You are assuming Kishi didn't draw it like that so that we could follow the fight. Whis was going FTL in DBZ BoG but we could perceive him right? This kind of thing is common in fiction.
 
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You know what if madara move his head in light speed, madara head will look on the other side in a moment and no speed line will be draw there, it look instant in short distance, it like Msdara head is actually on other side already and no way Naruto can react to that without precognition.

Again I said it is fiction. In fiction characters fight at million times the speed of light......it doesn't make sense, but it is always accepted. In one piece Oda has said many times that Kizaru can move at the speed of light while using his transmission technique. Its not considered that big of a deal by mangakas or even comic artists. Otherwise in real life we can't even move at massively hypersonic speed let alone light speed. So if u compare with real world than its not, but if u are comparing it with other fictional verses then it is.
 

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I agree that many probably don't, but you are comparing Naruto and Madara, to normal humans? I don't think you get how much faster Naruto and Madara are compared to normal humans. Itachi reacted to lightning. He is probably comparable to SM Naruto. Now recall all of the powerups (and their magnitude) Naruto has undergone since then.



You are assuming Kishi didn't draw it like that so that we could follow the fight. Whis was going FTL in DBZ BoG but we could perceive him right? This kind of thing is common in fiction.

You couldn't get much quicker than many of the fastest humans.

I know shinobi are much faster physically, but as for reactions, they can't be much quicker. Nothing under 5 milliseconds anyway.
 

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Again I said it is fiction. In fiction characters fight at million times the speed of light......it doesn't make sense, but it is always accepted. In one piece Oda has said many times that Kizaru can move at the speed of light while using his transmission technique. Its not considered that big of a deal by mangakas or even comic artists. Otherwise in real life we can't even move at massively hypersonic speed let alone light speed. So if u compare with real world than its not, but if u are comparing it with other fictional verses then it is.
Please address the fact that the same paragraph that proves it's light speed also says it's impossible for any enemy to dodge, but Naruto dodged it.
 

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You couldn't get much quicker than many of the fastest humans.

I know shinobi are much faster physically, but as for reactions, they can't be much quicker. Nothing under 5 milliseconds anyway.

Doesnt adrenalin rush help here?
 

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Nice hyperbole. Just like the Haku one...

Also Haku can teleport at the speed of light, but he can't attack at that speed. Haku's technique enables him to move as reflection between mirrors, and reflection happens at the speed of light which is completely logical. Its just that people often confuse it with attack speed. Like how Minato can reach his marked region instantly but his attacks aren't instant. Same logic here.
 

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Please address the fact that the same paragraph that proves it's light speed also says it's impossible for any enemy to dodge, but Naruto dodged it.

Its said in context to other normal humans and shinobis. Other than Naruto who has threat perception, no one can dodge that. So it is threat perception that makes it possible for RSM Naruto. U_U
 

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Come on man. That is obviously a hyperbole. Almost every technique in the DBs was given a hyperbole to stress how great they are. Phrases like those aren't meant to be taken literally.
 

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Also Haku can teleport at the speed of light, but he can't attack at that speed. Haku's technique enables him to move as reflection between mirrors, and reflection happens at the speed of light which is completely logical. Its just that people often confuse it with attack speed. Like how Minato can reach his marked region instantly but his attacks aren't instant. Same logic here.
Never mind that sasuke saw him?
 

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Also Haku can teleport at the speed of light, but he can't attack at that speed. Haku's technique enables him to move as reflection between mirrors, and reflection happens at the speed of light which is completely logical. Its just that people often confuse it with attack speed. Like how Minato can reach his marked region instantly but his attacks aren't instant. Same logic here.

2T Sasuke could react to Hakus speed. Haku is not even close to lightspeed. I know the difference between reaction speed, travel speed, attack speed, evasive speed, teleport speed and fighting speed. Haku isn't lightspeed in anything out of those.
 

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Its said in context to other normal humans and shinobis. Other than Naruto who has threat perception, no one can dodge that. So it is threat perception that makes it possible for RSM Naruto. U_U

No it didn't. There is no proof that it was referring to normal people, it said the enemy, which includes Naruto. Face it, what you thought was proof has backfired on you. Just quit while you think you're ahead.
 

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I agree that many probably don't, but you are comparing Naruto and Madara, to normal humans? I don't think you get how much faster Naruto and Madara are compared to normal humans. Itachi reacted to lightning. He is probably comparable to SM Naruto. Now recall all of the powerups (and their magnitude) Naruto has undergone since then.

There are many mach to filled, there are reserch although cant be the best measure that calculated that light in vaccum from air to sea level is about 800, 000 mach like that

Leader of lightning bolt travel in mach 5800 as average researched by Florida Uni.

There are move mach to feel by madara and naruto to equal light speed
 
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You couldn't get much quicker than many of the fastest humans.

I know shinobi are much faster physically, but as for reactions, they can't be much quicker. Nothing under 5 milliseconds anyway.

hmm...if we assume chakra lightning=natural lightning (i believe it can be or even very much faster) then Naruto and co have lightning speed reactions.
 

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People in this thread doesn't know how fiction works, what a sad day for humanity.
 

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hmm...if we assume chakra lightning=natural lightning (which i believe it is) then Naruto and co have lightning speed reactions.

Except lightning is but electrical discharge, where speed varies depending on magnitude.
People in this thread doesn't know how fiction works, what a sad day for humanity.

Oh, really?

OP claims Light fang is speed of light.

OP claims haku in mirrors is speed of light.

Conclusion, 2(1.5) T Sasuke could read this attack GG :cool:
 
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You couldn't get much quicker than many of the fastest humans.

I know shinobi are much faster physically, but as for reactions, they can't be much quicker. Nothing under 5 milliseconds anyway.

Lmaoooooo. Normal humans have a reaction time of only 0.25 seconds.
Itachi reacted to Kirin which took 1 millisecond to come down since it is natural lightning. Manga fact.
Good try though downplayer. There already are calcs proving that Jubi tier have quad digit mach to subrelativistic reactions and attack speed.
Gai's attack bent space time to a visible extend for which you need to be near light speed atleast.
 

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hmm...if we assume chakra lightning=natural lightning (i believe it can be or even very much faster) then Naruto and co have lightning speed reactions.

No need....Kirin is natural lightning itself and Itachi reacted to it. Also Kakashi was said to cut a lightning strike once using chidori. So we already have manga proofs. U_U
 
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