[Discussion] Law vs Pre MMnM Sabo

[Sweet Pudding]

Intel : Manga
Location : Ace vs Blackbeard

Can future PK Law defeat Sabo?

 

[Migualon J.J.]

Not a clue what by future Law you mean, but I think Sabo should take this. Mostly cause he is 2nd to only Dragon in the Revolutionary Army

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Sabo wins this. Actually pre time-skip Sabo should be able to win this, considering that he was around equal with Ace.

 

[Bogard]

Sabo should take this with around mid difficulty(likely in the higher end though)

 

[OG sama]

Law is not becoming PK. And he also loses.

 

[Hexuze]

Lol "future PK Law". Anyways Sabo wins mid-high diff.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Sabo wins this. Actually pre time-skip Sabo should be able to win this, considering that he was around equal with Ace.

When they were kids? sure but there is nothing to suggest MMnM Ace=Pre TS Sabo

OT : Sabo wins

 

[Forbidden Tale]

When they were kids? sure but there is nothing to suggest MMnM Ace=Pre TS Sabo

They were equal (nearly) when they were kids. There is nothing telling us how strong Sabo was pre time-skip.

But, after Sabo, disappeared Ace stayed in the forest for 7 years and was sparring with Luffy and after that he spent around 3 years on the seas and with WB.

On the other hand, Sabo didn't spent 7 years in the forest sparring with Luffy, he spent 10 years on the seas with the revolutionary when he trained.

I wouldn't just said that Pre TS Sabo was equal to Ace, but I would say that Pre TS Sabo was slightly above Ace. Ofc, that's just IMO.

 

[Bogard]

1- Ace was slightly stronger than Sabo when younger(he won more in their battles)

2- Ace had better potential growth than Sabo considering he was the son of the pirate king. Sengoku even said he had the potential to stand at the summit of his generation(and Sabo is from his generation), so likely grew at a faster growth rate than Sabo

3- A fodder to Ace preskip(Burgess) was a match to Sabo postskip

4- Ace didn't seem to know Sabo preskip despite leaving in the NW when postskip Sabo is well-known by NW fodders, heavily suggesting he didn't have that high position preskip(when Ace was already a yonkou commander)

I'm fairly confident in the fact Ace was stronger than Sabo preskip

 

[OG sama]

1- Ace was slightly stronger than Sabo when younger(he won more in their battles)

2- Ace had better potential growth than Sabo considering he was the son of the pirate king. Sengoku even said he had the potential to stand at the summit of his generation(and Sabo is from his generation), so likely grew at a faster growth rate than Sabo

3- A fodder to Ace preskip(Burgess) was a match to Sabo postskip

4- Ace didn't seem to know Sabo preskip despite leaving in the NW when postskip Sabo is well-known by NW fodders, heavily suggesting he didn't have that high position preskip(when Ace was already a yonkou commander)

I'm fairly confident in the fact Ace was stronger than Sabo preskip

You act as if burgess didn't get stronger after time skip. He obviously did. Sabo still fodderized him though.

 

[Hexuze]

1- Ace was slightly stronger than Sabo when younger(he won more in their battles)

2- Ace had better potential growth than Sabo considering he was the son of the pirate king. Sengoku even said he had the potential to stand at the summit of his generation(and Sabo is from his generation), so likely grew at a faster growth rate than Sabo

3- A fodder to Ace preskip(Burgess) was a match to Sabo postskip

4- Ace didn't seem to know Sabo preskip despite leaving in the NW when postskip Sabo is well-known by NW fodders, heavily suggesting he didn't have that high position preskip(when Ace was already a yonkou commander)

I'm fairly confident in the fact Ace was stronger than Sabo preskip

I hope you know that Sabo was toying around with Burgess.

 

[Bogard]

You act as if burgess didn't get stronger after time skip. He obviously did.

Way to miss the point. If Burgess was fodder to Ace preskip, he'd have remained fodder to Ace postskip as well(actually the gap would have increased) considering Ace has better growth rate than him, so Sabo being matched by a postskip Burgess, regardless of his growth shows a lack in potential strength compared to Ace

I hope you know that Sabo was toying around with Burgess.

No he wasn't

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1- Ace was slightly stronger than Sabo when younger(he won more in their battles)

True.

2- Ace had better potential growth than Sabo considering he was the son of the pirate king. Sengoku even said he had the potential to stand at the summit of his generation(and Sabo is from his generation), so likely grew at a faster growth rate than Sabo

I agree that Ace's growth rate is bigger than Sabo's but under same circumstances. Sabo spending 10 years at seas is not same as what Ace was doing.

7 years on the seas with revolutionary army >>>> 1 years in the forest, sparring with Luffy
1 year on the seas with revolutionary army >> 1 year on the sea as capatin of Spade Pirates
2 years on the seas with revolutionary army = 2 years on the seas with WB Pirates

Only in last 2 years I would say that Ace had higher growth since only there were circumstances around same.

3- A fodder to Ace preskip(Burgess) was a match to Sabo postskip

True, but to me that is Burgess got much stronger during time skip. That's one of BS from Oda that he got that stronger, but that's how it is.

Burgess is just one of main villians and main villians/protogonist usually get some huge power up, it's nothing new. And also Sabo beat Burgess pretty easily.

4- Ace didn't seem to know Sabo preskip despite leaving in the NW when postskip Sabo is well-known by NW fodders, heavily suggesting he didn't have that high position preskip(when Ace was already a yonkou commander)

We don't know at which point was Sabo revealed as 2nd in the revolutionary. It would be pretty odd if Ace knew about him and still didn't say anything to Luffy. Also, just the thing that NW fodders know about him and Ace (one of strongest pirate from the NW) didn't know anything tell me that prior to time skip, Sabo was not known as no.2.

If I remember correctly Ace was aware of Dragon and Dragon being Luffy's father, it would be odd if he wasn't aware of Dragon's right hand man.

I'm fairly confident in the fact Ace was stronger than Sabo preskip

Fair enough, though.

 

[OG sama]

Way to miss the point. If Burgess was fodder to Ace preskip, he'd have remained fodder to Ace postskip as well(actually the gap would have increased) considering Ace has better growth rate than him, so Sabo being matched by a postskip Burgess, regardless of his growth shows a lack in potential strength compared to Ace

No he wasn't

What makes you think that? Burgess probably didn't even have haki back then to even touch Ace.
And its not hard to believe Burgess could of closed the gap somewhat.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

1- Ace was slightly stronger than Sabo when younger(he won more in their battles)

2- Ace had better potential growth than Sabo considering he was the son of the pirate king. Sengoku even said he had the potential to stand at the summit of his generation(and Sabo is from his generation), so likely grew at a faster growth rate than Sabo

3- A fodder to Ace preskip(Burgess) was a match to Sabo postskip

4- Ace didn't seem to know Sabo preskip despite leaving in the NW when postskip Sabo is well-known by NW fodders, heavily suggesting he didn't have that high position preskip(when Ace was already a yonkou commander)

I'm fairly confident in the fact Ace was stronger than Sabo preskip

Aren't the Revolutionaries laying low? How would Sengoku know Sabo's potential?

 

[Anduril]

You restrict sabo and you give law a free run, yeah that's fair. Law will take this nearly low diff.

His fruit is bloody op if you ask me!

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Sabo take this ... High - Very High diff ..., I think Sabo on Dofy lvl ...