[VS] Naruto and Sasuke take the gauntlet.

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Naruto and Sasuke vs:

KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke [Restriction: PS] 1. Gokage 2. Akatsuki members: Kisame, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu. 3. Mū, 3rd Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 2nd Mizukage 4. Killer Bee and MS Kakashi 5. Nagato S2) Condition: Naruto can use KCSM, Sasuke gets a Yang Kurama cloak] BSM and PS are allowed. 6. Hashirama and VOTE Madara 7. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Paths of Jinchūriki and Hashirama 8. BM Minato + Edo Madara 9. BM Minato + VOTE Madara 10. BM Minato + Hashirama 11. BSM Naruto + BM Minato 12. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara [Condition: Intel on Limbo] 13. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara + BM Minato [Condition: Intel on Limbo, They start with BSM-PS fusion] Which ones do they take & which ones do they lose?

 

[Jaeger]

In first scenario, they stop at Nagato. KCSM also won't help Naruto against Nagato, we've seen how he was handled pretty much last time along with B, Sasuke is not changing the situation and they have no, no answer for CT.

Second scenario, they stop at 8. BM Minato > BSM Naruto/PS Sasuke & Edo Madara > BSM Naruto/PS Sasuke. At worst, Minato and Madara fuse their Susano'O and there you have a PS Kyuubi fusion that can create CT's, use Rinnegan techs, PS slashes, teleport, use Bijuu Dama and all kinds of crazy stuff. They get obliterated.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Gokage

Duo wins mid diff. S2 is a stomp. Either solos.

2. Akatsuki members: Kisame, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu.

Mid diff win. S2 is a stomp, either solos.

3. Muu, 3rd Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 2nd Mizukage

Mid diff win. S2 is a stomp, either solos.

4. Killer Bee and MS Kakashi

Mid-High diff win. S2 is a low diff win. Either solos.

5. Nagato

Mid-high diff win. S2 is a low diff win. Naruto can solo if he can figure out how to deal with CST, I can't figure out a way, so he dies. Sasuke solos though.

6. Hashirama and VOTE Madara

They could beat either one, but together? Mid diff win for the founders.

7. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Paths of Jinchūriki and Hashirama

Mid-high diff win for Obito and Hashirama.

8. BM Minato + Edo Madara

High diff win for Naruto and Sasuke.

9. BM Minato + VOTE Madara

Mid diff for Minato and Madara.

10. BM Minato + Hashirama

Same as above.

11. BSM Naruto + BM Minato

Father Son Duo wins high diff.

12. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara [Condition: Intel on Limbo]

I feel like Madara should be able to take it, but the lack of feats and hype doesn't help much. The gap in strength between JJ Madara w/ one eye and two eyes should be the same as the gap between SM Madara w/ one eye and two eyes, so once again, Madara might be able to take it.

13. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara + BM Minato

Madara and Minato win.

 

[Jaeger]

Duo wins mid diff. S2 is a stomp. Either solos.


Mid diff win. S2 is a stomp, either solos.



Mid diff win. S2 is a stomp, either solos.



Mid-High diff win. S2 is a low diff win. Either solos.



Mid-high diff win. S2 is a low diff win. Naruto can solo if he can figure out how to deal with CST, I can't figure out a way, so he dies. Sasuke solos though.

Naruto can solo CT? No. He needs preparation time to destroy it which he doesn't have, and arguably, even then he could not destroy it as a whole without 1. getting caught in blast and 2. it probably takes a lot of damage but doesn't get destroyed at entirety. Sasuke without PS isn't really doing much.

They could beat either one, but together? Mid diff win for the founders.



Mid-high diff win for Obito and Hashirama.


High diff win for Naruto and Sasuke.

And how are they beating Edo Madara, and BM Minato at the same time? Naruto already got schooled by Madara. Pretty much happening again, and Minato erases Sasuke from existence.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto can solo CT? No. He needs preparation time to destroy it which he doesn't have, and arguably, even then he could not destroy it as a whole without 1. getting caught in blast and 2. it probably takes a lot of damage but doesn't get destroyed at entirety. Sasuke without PS isn't really doing much.

Yup. What prep does he need? In it's early stages multiple Rasen Shuriken are more than enough to destroy it, a Chou Oodama is enough to destroy it in it's early stages.

-Why would he get caught in the blast? Isn't what happened in canon.

Sasuke w/ Kurama's Cloak has access to the Susanoo he used against Juubito. CT gets cut apart before it gets too large, all of Nagato's offenses are tanked, and Kirin can he used as a finisher. That Susanoo protected Sasuke from Juubito's Drop Slam, an attack much stronger than Nagato's CST. After that, he loses Deva's powers and dies from Kirin.

 

[KidGamer65]

And how are they beating Edo Madara, and BM Minato at the same time? Naruto already got schooled by Madara. Pretty much happening again, and Minato erases Sasuke from existence.

BSM Naruto got schooled by Edo Madara? Nope. BM Naruto rushed at his Mokuryu, got caught, and later escaped it. Mokuryu gets a Bijuu Dama or a Chou FRS and then the Sage Kurama Avatar defeats his Perfect Susanoo, or he takes out his father while Sasuke beats Edo Madara. Kyuubi Cloak enhanced PS>Normal PS.

Or Naruto and Sasuke combine their Avatars and beat down the combo of Minato and Madara's Avatars. Sage Kurama>Kurama. Sage Kyuubi Cloak PS>>>Normal PS. Thus the Sage Kurama Avatar beats the normal one.

 

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Kidgamer at #5 Sasuke gets only Yang Kurama's 3x boost. Not both Yin and Yang.
Btw S2 was intended only for Nagato at the first 5 matches.

If they start in BSM-PS fusion all the matches they lose would it make any difference?
And if Limbo is restricted on #13.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kidgamer at #5 Sasuke gets only Yang Kurama's 3x boost. Not both Yin-Yang.
Btw S2 was intended only for Nagato at the first 5 matches.

If they start in BSM-PS fusion all the matches they lose would it make any difference? And if Limbo is restricted on #13.

Damn, I forgot that he had Yin and Yang. Sasuke doesn't solo then.

And no, it'd make no difference. With intel they'd enter their avatars immediately making Limbo a non factor for Sasuke, for Naruto too once he combines his Avatar with Susanoo. Madara soloing is more of a feeling than a feats based analysis.

 

[Apêx1]

They could beat either one, but together? Mid diff win for the founders.

Can't tell if you are taking into account the cloak Naruto will give Sasuke, which Sasuke and Naruto would definitely shit with.

Mid-high diff win for Obito and Hashirama.

Agreed.

High diff win for Naruto and Sasuke.

Mid diff for Minato and Madara.


Same as above.

Agreed.

Father Son Duo wins high diff.

They can't stop BSM Naruto's avatar enhanced by a cloaked PS from Sasuke, let alone destroy it.

I feel like Madara should be able to take it, but the lack of feats and hype doesn't help much. The gap in strength between JJ Madara w/ one eye and two eyes should be the same as the gap between SM Madara w/ one eye and two eyes, so once again, Madara might be able to take it.

Madara isn't doing much to the cloak enhanced PS covering BSM.

Madara and Minato win.

Once again, I disagree for reasons listed above.

 

[KidGamer65]

Can't tell if you are taking into account the cloak Naruto will give Sasuke, which Sasuke and Naruto would definitely shit with.

Yes, I am, and it still doesn't push them at a high enough level that would allow them to win let alone shit.

Hashirama/Madara>BSM Naruto

Hashirama/Madara>>>EMS Sasuke.

With the Yang Cloak, EMS Sasuke doesn't get fodderized by the two, but he does not beat them (individually) either.

Then we have the Sage PS Kurama. PS gets enhanced by Naruto's chakra and by Senjutsu as it's armored onto Kurama. They'd wreck either one alone, but they aren't taking out SS and Madara's PS Kurama at the same time.

They can't stop BSM Naruto's avatar enhanced by a cloaked PS from Sasuke, let alone destroy it.

Yeah, I take that one back. Naruto and Sasuke win.

Madara isn't doing much to the cloak enhanced PS covering BSM.



Once again, I disagree for reasons listed above.

Like I said above, by feats, there is no argument that can, it's just a feeling I have based on the fact SM Madara is above either of them on his own, and the fact his other eye gives him a massive boost in power (Jump from One Eyed Shinju Madara to DR Shinju Madara) I feel that he should win.

 

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Naruto and Sasuke vs:

KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke [Restriction: PS] 1. Gokage

Naruto and Sasuke wreck them, 2. Akatsuki members: Kisame, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu. Naruto and Sasuke comfortably win this 3. Mū, 3rd Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 2nd Mizukage Naruto and Sasuke win mid diff 4. Killer Bee and MS Kakashi Naruto and Sasuke win mid diff 5. Nagato Nagato wins this high diff S2) Condition: Naruto can use KCSM, Sasuke gets a Yang Kurama cloak] Naruto and Sasuke win mid diff BSM and PS are allowed. 6. Hashirama and VOTE Madara Hashirama and Madara win mid diff 7. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Paths of Jinchūriki and Hashirama Hashirama and Obito win this 8. BM Minato + Edo Madara Could Go either way, with the odds being on naruto/sasukes favour 9. BM Minato + VOTE Madara Minato and Madara win mid diff 10. BM Minato + Hashirama Minato and Hashirama win this mid diff 11. BSM Naruto + BM Minato Whats with the order of these? Minato and Naruto win mid/high diff 12. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara [Condition: Intel on Limbo] Madara wins this, however this could go either way, 13. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara + BM Minato Madara and Minato comfortably win this

 

[KameSennin]

1. they stop at nagato
2. they stop at bm minato and vote madara.

 

[Apêx1]

Yes, I am, and it still doesn't push them at a high enough level that would allow them to win let alone shit.

Hashirama/Madara>BSM Naruto

Hashirama/Madara>>>EMS Sasuke.

With the Yang Cloak, EMS Sasuke doesn't get fodderized by the two, but he does not beat them (individually) either.

Then we have the Sage PS Kurama. PS gets enhanced by Naruto's chakra and by Senjutsu as it's armored onto Kurama. They'd wreck either one alone, but they aren't taking out SS and Madara's PS Kurama at the same time.

I disagree. PS Kurama=SS. Sage enhanced PS BSM Kurama with Naruto's chakra enhancing it>individual SS and individual PS. Kyuubi's PS is just restrained with Sage enhanced PS covering BSM chakra arms, whereas the real thing literally rapes the SS with far greater shockwaves and TBB's long before it is destroyed like the non-sage enhanced far weaker PS Kurama was, since the TBB's are sage mode enhanced and shockwaves are not only enhanced by PS boost, but also by BSM avatar.

Yeah, I take that one back. Naruto and Sasuke win.



Like I said above, by feats, there is no argument that can, it's just a feeling I have based on the fact SM Madara is above either of them on his own, and the fact his other eye gives him a massive boost in power (Jump from One Eyed Shinju Madara to DR Shinju Madara) I feel that he should win.

Oh, I guess it could be implicative to an extent, assuming he has some insane Rinnegan jutsu's we haven't seen yet, which is likely.

 

[KidGamer65]

I disagree. PS Kurama=SS. Sage enhanced PS BSM Kurama with Naruto's chakra enhancing it>individual SS and individual PS. Kyuubi's PS is just restrained with Sage enhanced PS covering BSM chakra arms, whereas the real thing literally rapes the SS with far greater shockwaves and TBB's long before it is destroyed like the non-sage enhanced far weaker PS Kurama was, since the TBB's are sage mode enhanced and shockwaves are not only enhanced by PS boost, but also by BSM avatar.

Yes, Sage PS Kurama>>SS or PS Kurama, individually. But there being such a large gap that PS Kurama gets restrained by Sage PS Kurama's Chakra Arms is ridiculous. Nor is there any evidence to substantiate it.

And shockwaves? A PS BD barrage would be stronger.

 

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Naruto and Sasuke vs:

KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke [Restriction: PS] 1. Gokage 2. Akatsuki members: Kisame, Itachi, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu. 3. Mū, 3rd Raikage, 4th Kazekage, 2nd Mizukage 4. Killer Bee and MS Kakashi 5. Nagato S2) Condition: Naruto can use KCSM, Sasuke gets a Yang Kurama cloak] BSM and PS are allowed. 6. Hashirama and VOTE Madara 7. Rinnegan Obito w/ 6 Paths of Jinchūriki and Hashirama 8. BM Minato + Edo Madara 9. BM Minato + VOTE Madara 10. BM Minato + Hashirama 11. BSM Naruto + BM Minato 12. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara [Condition: Intel on Limbo] 13. RT Dual Rinnegan SM Madara + BM Minato [Condition: Intel on Limbo, They start with BSM-PS fusion] Which ones do they take & which ones do they lose?

They lost the underlined.