Itachi vs Tsunade

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Tsunade makes use of the Chakra she stored up to enhance her strength and regeneration. Do you know what disturb Chakra means? That means your Chakra flow is disturbed, brought out of balance.

So Tsunade fights and uses Jutsu with a disturbed Chakra flow? Interesting.
you already posted this and I already countered this.
 

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You still don't get our points. The flow of her chakra is only disrupted when she opens her seal. It lasts for a few moments, until the chakra stored in the seal enters her body. After that the Yin seal acts as an external chakra source.
Ok. So after the seal is activated, she can be caught in a Genjutsu again? So what's the difference?

Tsukuyomi is gg before she activates Byakugo and after that as well. There is no passing Tsukuyomi's gg. Itachi shits.
Tsukuyomi gg.
Amaterasu gg.
Totsuka gg.
Incomplete Susanoo bisecting her gg.

...chopping her head off with Kunai blitz gg...
 

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Ok. So after the seal is activated, she can be caught in a Genjutsu again? So what's the difference?

Tsukuyomi is gg before she activates Byakugo and after that as well. There is no passing Tsukuyomi's gg. Itachi shits.
Tsukuyomi gg.
Amaterasu gg.
Totsuka gg.
Incomplete Susanoo bisecting her gg.

...chopping her head off with Kunai blitz gg...
First of all, I never said Tsunade has a chance against MS Itachi.

Um, Tsunade can close and reopen the seal at will and as many times as she wants. She can also use her slug to break free from any genjutsu 3 tomoe Itachi throws at her.

The chops her head off argument is boring try something new. I know you can do better than this.
 

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So she will open, close, open, close, make such an effort just to break some random Genjutsu of Itachi?
Yeah, Katsuyu is a counter though, as she can use a portion of her.

But Tsukuyomi shits of course, just wanted you to understand that she can't survive it (like I explained).
 

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So she will open, close, open, close, make such an effort just to break some random Genjutsu of Itachi?
Yeah, Katsuyu is a counter though, as she can use a portion of her.

But Tsukuyomi shits of course, just wanted you to understand that she can't survive it (like I explained).
After a few attempts Itachi won't even try to put her under genjutsu.
It takes no effort nor handseals to release it, so yes, she can do that.

But who was talking about MS Itachi?
 

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I read the arguments...Why is this 7 Pages long? people backing Tsunade are grasping at straws (TEO + PawX)

Is it possible to break someone out of Tsukyomi? any Genjutsu itachi has (bar Tsukuyomi) She could probably escape but not without a time period in between. She will be trapped momentarily just like Bee was in the little fight he had with Edo Itachi.

This does not change the fact that she can not break Tsukyomi thus she can not win this fight.

First it was she can break Tsukyomi because she broke Kakashi out of it and now its she uses Yin seal?

There is actually no legit evidence that she can break herself out of that level of Genjutsu.

Itachi has a range of techniques he can end Tsuande with but Tsukyomi is the most efficient jutsu
 

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I read the arguments...Why is this 7 Pages long? people backing Tsunade are grasping at straws (TEO + PawX)

Is it possible to break someone out of Tsukyomi? any Genjutsu itachi has (bar Tsukuyomi) She could probably escape but not without a time period in between. She will be trapped momentarily just like Bee was in the little fight he had with Edo Itachi.

This does not change the fact that she can not break Tsukyomi thus she can not win this fight.

First it was she can break Tsukyomi because she broke Kakashi out of it and now its she uses Yin seal?

There is actually no legit evidence that she can break herself out of that level of Genjutsu.

Itachi has a range of techniques he can end Tsuande with but Tsukyomi is the most efficient jutsu
You read BS. 7 pages was for 3T Itachi and how Tsunade can break his regular genjustu. Never stated anything about Tsukyomi, so I dont know what you read.
 

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Some of Itachi's 3-tomoe genjutsu confuses his opponent, because they can't even detect that they're caught in it... the scenery around them looks the same. Tsunade loses just as Deidara and Orochimaru lost. 3-tomoe Itachi> Tsunade and her seal. People arguing against this just like to wank Tsunade.

Edit: You know what? I take it back. Itachi's speed is greater than Tsunade's. He can just decapitate her. (Please, no one say that she can regenerate her entire body below her neck... that's not plausible.) Itachi w/o sharingan> Tsunade and her seal.
 
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Some of Itachi's 3-tomoe genjutsu confuses his opponent, because they can't even detect that they're caught in it... the scenery around them looks the same. Tsunade loses just as Deidara and Orochimaru lost. 3-tomoe Itachi> Tsunade and her seal. People arguing against this just like to wank Tsunade.

Edit: You know what? I take it back. Itachi's speed is greater than Tsunade's. He can just decapitate her. (Please, no one say that she can regenerate her entire body below her neck... that's not plausible.) Itachi w/o sharingan> Tsunade and her seal.
I am disappointed Chie.
 

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How would Itachi know if the seal release doesnt constantly make her immune to genjustu.
Because there is no such thing as immune to Genjutsu, you can be caught, it's just that others can break out faster or others can see through it from the get go. Not to mention if he didn't know, he'd try it out. Lmao.


Nope. I'm serious.
 

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Because there is no such thing as immune to Genjutsu, you can be caught, it's just that others can break out faster or others can see through it from the get go. Not to mention if he didn't know, he'd try it out. Lmao.
I meant immune in the same way Bijuus break you out and such (Not exactly immune). Once a technique gets countered you really never see it come out again unless its a stronger version.
 

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I meant immune in the same way Bijuus break you out and such (Not exactly immune). Once a technique gets countered you really never see it come out again unless its a stronger version.
Yeah, because they know that it will never work again. Except, if the release of Byakugo is what broke his Genjutsu, which is obvious, then it will work again, so he has every reason to cast it.
 

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Tsunade no matter how you look at counters Itachi's 3T genjustu.

I. Yin seal can possibly release the genjustu through disruption of chakra flow.
  • Sakura and Chiyo simply to disrupt his flow of chakra.
  • Jiraiya states simply disrupts the flow.
  • Chakra in the yin seal is stored over time as another chakra source to the body.
II. Itachi not having any intel on Tsunade's durability doesnt kill her and actually releases her from the genjustu himself with pain.

III. Katsuyu simply staying on Tsunade will break it for her and continues to break it for her since they have a connection. (Liquid form of Katsuyu can also be used in the same way)
 
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