[VS] DMS Kakashi vs Hashirama

[ARGUS]

Kakashi stomps him

 

[KingHashirama]

Kakashi fights on the scale of people like Naruto and Sasuke after getting Hagoromo's power. Hashirama gets raped.

Oh I didn't see him fighting on the scale of people like Naruto and Sasuke (Bust 10+ mountains easily).. All I saw him do was apply Kamui to his normal attack enhanced by Rikudou's jutsu + use PS.


Unless you wanna claim he has the same chakra of rikudou as Naruto and Sasuke. Which would then be stupid to claim. Unless you are under the impression rikudou's chakra can't be touched without having rikudou's chakra.. then you see what happened with Obito as the jinchuriki.

Kakashi warps himself behind Hashirama with Kamui self teleporting executed at maximized speed with both eyes and Rikudo chakra, then kills him with a Raikiri kunai through his head.

Kakashi uses Kamui on Hashirama, DMS Kakashi's offensive Kamui is faster than Kaguya's S/T that blitzed Rikudo Rinnegan Sasuke. Hashirama can't do nothing.

Kakashi blitzes with Kamui Raikiri.

Take your pick...

1. Kaguya isn't a fighter.. lol. If she wanted to blitz and so on.. she would've pawned them. Kaguya's "blitz" is inconsistent.

2. Hashirama can clones actually.. Spam mokuton tree world.. and use that as a cover up. Kakashi is going to run out of the chakra in short time.

3. Hashirama has Sage mode so we know he has stupid fast reactions, even without sage mode he had stupid fast reactions. And then you add on his ability to create giant structures in near instant.

 

[V h o]

Does hashirama have a counter to kamui? If not DMS Kakashi wins.

 

[KingHashirama]

Does hashirama have a counter to kamui? If not DMS Kakashi wins.

Clones. <<<< only able to be detected by someone who has strong eye powers. And then even that requires experience against them. Then he has the mayfly combo via spamming mokuton tree world.

 

[Jaeger]

Kakashi beats him without PS.

 

[V h o]

Clones. <<<< only able to be detected by someone who has strong eye powers. And then even that requires experience against them. Then he has the mayfly combo via spamming mokuton tree world.

Still doesn't counter kamui, more specifically kamui raikiri, where Kakashi is practically invulnerable. Clones are one shot by kamui shuriken.

 

[Sound]

Kakashi negative difficulty.

 

[KingHashirama]

Still doesn't counter kamui, more specifically kamui raikiri, where Kakashi is practically invulnerable. Clones are one shot by kamui shuriken.

Easily counters it. He can't one shot clones, that are merged with the earth...... And then they travel at near instant speeds.. come on now dude. Furthermore, they can easily attack from under him, without him noticing.

Wood clone, is one of Hashirama's OP abilities after all.

 

[V h o]

Easily counters it. He can't one shot clones, that are merged with the earth...... And then they travel at near instant speeds.. come on now dude. Furthermore, they can easily attack from under him, without him noticing.

His PS flies.... Kamui shuriken still hits them, unless now these clones can fly.

 

[KingHashirama]

His PS flies.... Kamui shuriken still hits them, unless now these clones can fly.

His PS flies.. for 5 minutes.. after that hes done. PS would only increase the pointless chakra waste. The point is who the hell is he gonna hit, if he doesn't know the real Hashirama, where he is or anything.

 

[Strict]

His PS flies.. for 5 minutes.. after that hes done

Gimme the scan saying 5 minutes and done.

 

[V h o]

His PS flies.. for 5 minutes.. after that hes done. PS would only increase the pointless chakra waste. The point is who the hell is he gonna hit, if he doesn't know the real Hashirama, where he is or anything.

5 minutes is enough to win this. kamui shuriken one shots clones and hashirama.

 

[Conspirator.]

Kakashi takes it.

-Rikudo PS>>>>>SS
-Kamui shurikens counter all his mokutons.
-Kamui raikiri deals with all clones and murders Hashirama.

Hashirama has no way of winning. Kakashi is simply a couple of tiers above Hashirama. Getting Rikudo chakra(even in small quantities) means that you cannot be defeated by those who don't have it. (for the most part)

 

[KingHashirama]

Gimme the scan saying 5 minutes and done.

- you can either wait for the anime to come out.

- Or you can useth thy brain to analyze the time.

- If hes going to be spamming attacks in PS.. its definitly 5 minutes, it hes not spamming them.. then give it 10 minutes. << I can even show you the time .

Kakashi takes it.

-Rikudo PS>>>>>SS
-Kamui shurikens counter all his mokutons.
-Kamui raikiri deals with all clones and murders Hashirama.

Hashirama has no way of winning. Kakashi is simply a couple of tiers above Hashirama. Getting Rikudo chakra(even in small quantities) means that you cannot be defeated by those who don't have it. (for the most part)

- Doesn't need the Buddha, As i recall Obito (with rikudou's chakra) got f*cked up by non-rikudou's chakra.

- actually it doesn't. Spamming of mokuton tree world, will outlast his spamming of PS techniques.

- Ok, what is he gonna raikiri? the earth?

(I'm just trying to discuss X_X, not trying to start an argument.)

5 minutes is enough to win this. kamui shuriken one shots clones and hashirama.

But you never explained how it one shots them..

If Hashirama gets Kamui'd by the shuriken, hes just gonna be teleported into the other dimension.. The scale of kamui shuriken is too big to cut up Hashirama. And if he gets teleported, then he can just live in the Kamui world .

And lets say he does hit Hashirama with Raikiri.. uh regeneration takes over.

 

[Strict]

- you can either wait for the anime to come out.

- Or you can useth thy brain to analyze the time.

- If hes going to be spamming attacks in PS.. its definitly 5 minutes, it hes not spamming them.. then give it 10 minutes. << I can even show you the time .



- Doesn't need the Buddha, As i recall Obito (with rikudou's chakra) got f*cked up by non-rikudou's chakra.

- actually it doesn't. Spamming of mokuton tree world, will outlast his spamming of PS techniques.

- Ok, what is he gonna raikiri? the earth?

(I'm just trying to discuss X_X, not trying to start an argument.)

No, don't speculate, don't calculate, just show me the proof for your claim, that Kakashi's PS only lasts 5 minutes until he runs out of power. Of course, the MS was a borrowed power and disappeared after Kaguya was beaten. But there was no limit given to him as long as he used the power.

 

[KingHashirama]

No, don't speculate, don't calculate, just show me the proof for your claim, that Kakashi's PS only lasts 5 minutes until he runs out of power. Of course, the MS was a borrowed power and disappeared after Kaguya was beaten. But there was no limit given to him as long as he used the power.

Ok, yea his stuff lasts for infinite dude, you are so right man.

Not like we have the brains, to analyze shit for ourselves. The author has to spoon feed us everything man.

 

[Bogard]

1- DMS Kakashi had no timelimit. It only depended on Obito. He already accomplished his goal, so there were no reasons for Obito to stay
2- Assuming it takes 5minutes, those 5minutes were enough to deal with a monster far stronger than Kaguya. It will probably not even take him seconds to decimate a far weaker opponent like Hashirama

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh I didn't see him fighting on the scale of people like Naruto and Sasuke (Bust 10+ mountains easily).. All I saw him do was apply Kamui to his normal attack enhanced by Rikudou's jutsu + use PS.


Unless you wanna claim he has the same chakra of rikudou as Naruto and Sasuke. Which would then be stupid to claim. Unless you are under the impression rikudou's chakra can't be touched without having rikudou's chakra.. then you see what happened with Obito as the jinchuriki.

It required Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, Tobirama and a whole army to defeat Obito. Lol. Rikudo PS takes a dump on Hashirama, and no, he doesn't have an equal amount of Rikudo Chakra as them, but Rikudo PS puts him on the general level, speaking in very broad terms.

 

[Conspirator.]

Wait, let me get this straight. KH, your argument is that Hashirama uses mayfly to merge with the environment.? The issue is that Kakashi is must faster than Hashirama, and would blitz with Kamui Raikiri before he can even do that. Furthermore, he has to come out at some point.(even if mayfly works), and he has no counters to a PS on Rikudo drugs.

 

[KingHashirama]

1- DMS Kakashi had no timelimit. It only depended on Obito. He already accomplished his goal, so there were no reasons for Obito to stay
2- Assuming it takes 5minutes, those 5minutes were enough to deal with a monster far stronger than Kaguya. It will probably not even take him seconds to decimate a far weaker opponent like Hashirama

1. And hence why its his time limit. But if that is true, then yea DMS kakashi takes it then.

2. Actually no they weren't. Kaguya is neither an experienced fighter or a skilled warrior. If Kaguya was a Madara Uchiha.. or someone skilled in fighting.. there was no way in hell Kakashi was hiting her. She can easily mayfly and take them out. << Another nerfed part.

It required Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, Tobirama and a whole army to defeat Obito. Lol. Rikudo PS takes a dump on Hashirama, and no, he doesn't have an equal amount of Rikudo Chakra as them, but Rikudo PS puts him on the general level, speaking in very broad terms.

No one said defeat.. I said f*cked up.

Actually no it doesn't. The quantity of rikudou's chakra has alot to play in this role. Just like quantity of Senjutsu chakra plays a role in senjutsu techniques.

Unless Sakura on the general level for landing a hit on Kaguya (which she is not.)

Wait, let me get this straight. KH, your argument is that Hashirama uses mayfly to merge with the environment.? The issue is that Kakashi is must faster than Hashirama, and would blitz with Kamui Raikiri before he can even do that. Furthermore, he has to come out at some point.(even if mayfly works), and he has no counters to a PS on Rikudo drugs.

Assuming that there is a time limit, that Obito HAS to go.. then yea he just has to wait it out with mayfly and use diversions.

But if Obito can stay for all he wants, then yea never mind.