[VS] Itachi vs 3 Sannin

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He was only able to do that because the fire itself was not spawned ON HIM. If it is, he's dead.

The amaterasu burns pretty slowly, as seen when Karin was able to survive it for several seconds.
 

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Fire sealing scroll just as he did in canon.

If Itachi has intent to kill, there's no way in hell he'd have the luxury of time to execute it. Which makes it a moot point.
 

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The amaterasu burns pretty slowly, as seen when Karin was able to survive it for several seconds.
Then the scroll Jiraiya takes out burns before he can open it, simple.
 

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He was only able to do that because the fire itself was not spawned ON HIM. If it is, he's dead.

>Couldnt burned Karin. She took no damage.
>Couldn't even burn Madaras armor, he just tossed it aside.
>Couldn't even burn fodder samurai armor or their bodies despite Temari using Futon on it which should have made it much more powerful.
>Didn't even phase Ay.
>Thinks Jiraiya can't pull scroll from his pocket and seal it.
>Legit.
 

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The amaterasu burns pretty slowly, as seen when Karin was able to survive it for several seconds.

When was Karin hit by a direct Amaterasu strike that was actually aimed at her? Lol

OT: I think Itachi would solo Tsunade and Jiraiya together, but the issue is Zetsu Orochimaru. He should be able to push Itachi to high diff alone, so Itachi would probably end up losing against all 3 together.
 

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When was Karin hit by a direct Amaterasu strike that was actually aimed at her? Lol

OT: I think Itachi would solo Tsunade and Jiraiya together, but the issue is Zetsu Orochimaru. He should be able to push Itachi to high diff alone, so Itachi would probably end up losing against all 3 together.

Lel, what? It doesn't matter if it was directly aimed at her or not, the flames weren't weaker. , yet the flames barely got through her clothing. [ ]

I'm not saying Jiraiya defeats Itachi btw.
 

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Lel, what? It doesn't matter if it was directly aimed at her or not, the flames weren't weaker. , yet the flames barely got through her clothing. [ ]

I'm not saying Jiraiya defeats Itachi btw.

It actually does. Why? Because the manga shows that when the flames hit someone directly within the line of sight, it burns faster.

-Frog stomach got burned in an instant.(said to be immune to be fire)
-Cerebrus got burned too, inspite of it's splitting ability.
-The crow got burned fast too.
-Kidomaru's webs got burned quickly with a direct amaterasu strike too IIRC.

OTOH:

-The samurai was hit by the flames, but they weren't the intended target(it was actually Ay.), so the flames burned slowly.
-Ay got hit with enton, not a direct amaterasu strike........ yet the flames burned slowly.

Manga shows us that getting hit directly by amaterasu(not being an unintentional target or getting hit by residual flames) results in a far faster overall burning rate. Unless of course you have direct counters like chakra absorption, ST, durable chakra cloak/avatars etc
 

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@ Apex

You already know my premise from the other thread.

Sannin bring out the boss trio and they tier him out. Manda being dead isn't an argument. This is a versus match and Manda is in Orochimaru 's arsenal. By this logic, the sannin automatically win since Itachi is dead and Orochimaru and Tsunade are alive in the manga. Makes no sense.

So when the boss trio comes out Jiraiya burns down the whole forest so Itachi has nowhere to hide. This alone will force Itachi to bring out Susanoo to survive because it's too much aoe for him to escape on foot.

The only Susanoo that will help Itachi is his final version. Every other version gets busted open. When Gamabunta leaps in the air and fires Suiton at him, only Yata Mirror is saving him. Kabutos Suiton powered by Senjutsu busted Sasukes rib cage Susanoo completely. That Sution is nothing compared to Gamabunta large scale Suiton that were already forest busters and its powered by Senjutsu!!?? And he rapid fires several at once!!?? Holy shit base Jiraiya would probably take this alone. Nothing short of final Susanoo is even useful for Itachi and since he can't maintain it long, and Gamabunta can jump around all day dodging Totsuka and blasting him, Itachi will tier out and then defeated.

This is just base Jiraiya. I haven't even started with Tsunade and Orochimaru 's abilities yet. using Genjutsu on boss summons gets him no where. It will be broken and Jiraiya would know if his summon is put under a Genjutsu. Controlling Gamabunta will require a high amount of chakra too and if I factor in Orochimaru and Tsunade help it's a waste on Itachis part.

If he fires Amaterasu, Jiraiya seals it in his fire scroll so that's non factor too.

Yeah a simple start with no Tsunade and Orochimaru and it looks like Itachi already loses bruh.

Dude, you can't have Oro with Manda, that's like saying current Sasuke has Manda. You are the one who has VS match-ups workings' wrong. And no, we are talking about their forms alive, that analogy is flawed. However, Manda being dead is a fact, one cannot attribute it to Oro. Current Sasuke only has Aoda, MS Sasuke only has Aoda, EMS Sasuke only has Aoda, that IS how match-ups work.

Either way, if Manda is there, Itachi controls Manda, and he simply shits on Bunta and Katsuyu like he was about to last time pre-Tsunade intervention, only this time Itachi will stop Tsunade from doing shit via Amateratsu or simply blitzing her.

v3 Susano isn't getting busted open by any of their attacks, Lol. v3 shits on them all as it possess Yata as well, which has canonically repelled the Hydra snakes like they were nothing, while the Totsuka has sliced off their heads like they were nothing. Any of the summons will suffer a similar fate. And I don't understand bold. Ribcage Susano is permeable. Second of all, their isn't a linear progression in terms of defence with Susano, it's massively exponential. So you will need proof of Suiton bullet's massive power when it was only repelling attacks which Bunta could tank (thus no power scaling feats). Base jiraiya my ass, don't let me not take you seriously, it's a fact that Jiraiya gets raped with Tsukiyomi. v3 is being maintained for as long as the fight goes on, and it has Yata and Totsuka, so he shits. Who needs to hit Bunta when you can genjutsu him or in your misconstrued belief, have Manda kill him? Lol...

But that's because Jiraiya is the most significant factor for the Sannin, Oro and Tsunade lack any power to do much to Itachi. In specific, oro, who Itachi seems to know very well and has mad intel on him as shown when he knew Sasuke using Oral Rebirth and its name, he knew 8 branches when he saw it, and he knew how the curse mark worked. He stopped oro every time with ease, he'll do it again. And again... Prove to me that controlling a summon is any different than controlling a shinobi in terms of chakra. Until then that point is fan-fic.
And it's rather ironic you tell me Itachi who is faster than all 3 Sannin cannot touch Bunta, yet when Itachi has him under genjutsu, anyone can touch bunta.... So no, whoever he gets, they're not doing anything to, not to mention Itachi has clones who can prevent the Sannin from doing so if they come close.

That's not how it works. If you're under fire, you're not going to casually take out a scroll, open it, and seal the fire within. Everyone has impulsive actions which they cannot control, by the time Jiraiya has taken out the scroll, he is either on the verge of death, dead, or has had the scroll burn as well.

So no, nothing is looking like Itachi loses at all, not to mention you are massively overrating Jiraiya who is raped by Itachi in a 1v1, which you are making it out to be in exclusion of the summons (which are controlled by Itachi with no large chakra tax).



Orochimaru is probably going to be the sole survivor if we're thinking logically. Itachi can't be reckless and spam his MS techniques because if they fail, his stamina takes a deep toll.

Agreed.

Let's do it like this, Katsuyu is summoned, and she goes into her gel state, this way Orochimaru doesn't need to worry about his regeneration being costly; and thus summons his snakes all throughout the battlefield. You may be wondering how no name snakes are going to affect the battle in the sightest. Orochimaru in the forest of death, has shown the ability to emerge from his summons, similar to how he emerges from his mouth; albeit he comes out of the side of their body. This'll allow him to scatter through the area to gain different angles to help.

Yes, that is indeed a strong ability. However, Itachi will still be capable of seeing Orochimaru inside of the snake given that Sasuke has seen through the density of the ground (rocks) against Deidara. So it's potential is pretty good, but Itachi can simply control Aoda and have it attack Orochimaru (it can probably smell him too), or even telepathically communicate with the other snakes and demand his location, as it is a far more prestigious snake then the fodder snakes (pretty sure Oro can't stop it since he can't telepathically communicate with snakes like Kabuto can).

I'll stick Jiraiya on the main offensive; his elemental combinations with Bunta should be overwhelming enough for Itachi to resort to Susano'o, this is where Tsunade comes in. While Itachi is defending from blazing heat, she'll attempt to sneak in from the back and shatter the back of the avatar; Orochimaru quickly spits out the Kusangi and impales Itachi through the chest.

You haven't factored in Itachi's ability to put any of the summons under his control, including Bunta, which would negate this entire plan. There is no way that all 3 summons will be summoned, and Jiraiya will launch his jutsu before Itachi has already either put Bunta under his control and negated this plan, or put Aoda under his control and had him attack Bunta and prevent this from happening altogether. Moreover, Itachi can plausibly substitute with an exploding Kage Bunshin/Crow clone from the beginning of the fight, and have the clone explode/dispers and cast genjutsu once Tsunade attacks it from behind.

Honestly, this is the only way I see them winning.

True, there is potential for this, but Tsunade isn't affecting v4 Susano even if she hits it. Though an IC Itachi wouldn't use v4, he'd still use v3 with his Yata mirror, which does in fact cover the entire Susano and change its shape based on incoming attacks ( )[ ][ ][ ]. Do note, it in the first place, thus can change however it chooses to as further proved by the scans. So even by that way of winning, Tsunade's punch still gets stopped and Itachi can stab her with his Totsuka at point blank at this point (sealing her). Bunta goes under Itachi's control, Aoda is chopped up, Katsuyu is ignored. The again we have people saying base Jiraiya solo's lol..
 

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>Couldnt burned Karin. She took no damage.
That's why she couldn't move even after they reached Obito's location [ ].

>Couldn't even burn Madaras armor, he just tossed it aside.

Stainless steel not burning=Jiraiya unaffected? True intelligence brah.

>Couldn't even burn fodder samurai armor or their bodies despite Temari using Futon on it which should have made it much more powerful.

Misconstrued occurrence on your part. Again, stainless steel=Human body? Thanks for enlightening me.

>Didn't even phase Ay.

That's why he lost his arm. Similarly, Nagato lost his arm from Ama alone [ ].

>Thinks Jiraiya can't pull scroll from his pocket and seal it.

Similarly to everyone else who had Amateratsu on their body, he won't be moving let alone in control of his movements.

Indeed legit.
 

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Itachi is taking this, but extreme difficulty due to the chakra reserves it will utilize and the fact that it's multiple people. This is of course taking into account that Edo Tensei is restricted.
 

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Itachi is taking this, but extreme difficulty due to the chakra reserves it will utilize and the fact that it's multiple people. This is of course taking into account that Edo Tensei is restricted.

Thought you told me to give up when I said Itachi wins in the other thread.. :|
 

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This is ridiculous. Sannin pretty much stomp.
 

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Thought you told me to give up when I said Itachi wins in the other thread.. :|

Was it the Sannin match-up? I thought I was talking about a different match-up. Re-post the match-ups and I'll tell you. Regardless, this match-up comes with a few situational aspects. If Jiraiya starts in SM he potentially solo's. If he starts in SM then I don't see Itachi winning while SM Jiraiya has support from both Orochimaru and Tsunade.
 

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Was it the Sannin match-up? I thought I was talking about a different match-up. Re-post the match-ups and I'll tell you. Regardless, this match-up comes with a few situational aspects. If Jiraiya starts in SM he potentially solo's. If he starts in SM then I don't see Itachi winning while SM Jiraiya has support from both Orochimaru and Tsunade.

The thread got deleted, but the Sannin gauntlet indeed. And no, Jiraiya doesn't start in SM, that would be overkill (nor did he start in SM in the other thread).
 

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The only threat here is Orochimaru (unless Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode), and depending if Itachi can take out the rest quickly (doubt more than two jutsu's are needed to take out Tsunade) Itachi can potentially win.
 

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The thread got deleted, but the Sannin gauntlet indeed. And no, Jiraiya doesn't start in SM, that would be overkill (nor did he start in SM in the other thread).

Well, if I said Itachi loses, that wasn't my actual opinion.

Tsunade has nothing to deal with Amaterasu (her cells will be burning faster than they can regenerate) and the other two can't simply take it off of her since they'll start burning too.

Orochimaru can us Kai against Genjutsu, but it won't work against Tsukuyomi.

Which leaves Jiraiya, and if in that time he can get into SM, he'll win but I seriously doubt he will since Jiraiya takes a lot longer than most to get into SM. Which means Itachi can end Jiraiya with any assortment of Ephemeral/Amaterasu/Susano'o.
 

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Actually on second thoughts you are going by feats. Zetsu Orochimaru is literally featless(with regards to any new abilities), so Itachi could take this high diff.
 
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