theory about obito (because something i noticed drew my attention)

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Kamui



Do you remember when Madara went Madara on us and once again stole someone's powers?

When he arrived at the Kamui-dimension, he threw a rod at Sakura.

What happened then is that Obito Kamui'd Sakura away from that dimension.

A couple of panels later we see Madara with his arm in Obito and Obito not doing anything.

That's where we should begin to think.

Because:


° Why couldn't Obito Kamui out of that dimension?

The answer is because he couldn't move anymore because Zetsu trying to take over his body as you see in the following photo:

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Maybe you already begin to see where I'm going to, if he is it really true that he couldn't and didn't (try to) do anything?

You see, he couldn't move, but he still was able to Kamui Sakura to safety, so if we consider using Kamui as not moving, it means that he actually could also Kamui himself to safety.

If he could, he probably also actually tried to get away, not only for his own safety, but for the safety of the world as he only cared about the world's safety at that moment.

Though he could Kamui himself away, he failed to do it.


° Why did he fail?

Because Madara probably outclassed him in speed and did something to paralyze his body so he can't even use Kamui anymore, or Madara reached to him faster than he could use Kamui.

IMPORTANT: With Kamui I also mean his Intangibility, because that also shouldn't be a problem if he was able to use Kamui.

The whole point I'm trying to make, is that Kamui and Intangibility aren't things that can only be countered by another Kamui user or a jutsu that lasts for longer than the intangibility's max. time.

We already knew (because of Konan) that warping oneself away takes some time (though not much) and because of that can be countered by speed.

Intangibility however is (almost?) instant, so if Madara was faster than that by using just his speed, even Intangibility isn't a factor anymore for people as fast as or faster than Madara.

If Madara countered it by using a paralyziation technique, Intangibility has another counter (which Itachi probably realized way back then in the movie with Menma).​



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k. he saved sakura bc she was more important than the world.

he cant be intangible in his dimension
 
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I don't think that obito can make his body intangible in kamui dimension.
 

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I don't think that obito can make his body intangible in kamui dimension.

lol, read 1 post above yours, how do you think intangibility works?

when obito goes through things (partly or completely) he goes intangible and those parts thst are intangible go to the kamui-dimension, when he returns he doesn't warp himself back, he just becomes tangible (for example vs fuu, when obito appeared out of the ground)
 

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lol... he used the last chakra to teleport Sakura... he was drained as **** xD
and when obito used the last bit of chakra, black zetsu could get better control of Obito o_O
 

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lol... he used the last chakra to teleport Sakura... he was drained as **** xD
and when obito used the last bit of chakra, black zetsu could get better control of Obito o_O

so then how did obito warp him and madara back?

it could be via zetsu giving his body the chakra that is needed but i doubt that obito was THAT drained
 

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Don't forget that Kakashi and Obito could cancel out each other's kamui.
Maybe Madara used the left Kamui eye to do just that? He had Kamui Snipe GG, after all...u.u
 
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