How to avoid 8th Guy's attacks? ( Except FTG and Kamui )

[Bantos]

Be Orochimaru or be able to use byakugo.

 

[Hazo]

Was he going at full speed though? Was it 8 gate gai?
Lee wouldn't be able to match his speed if he wasn't at that power, and Kakashi could not keep up with that speed in his borrowed Sharingan.

Then that explains why Madara saw it.

It's eight gate Gai...what's the point holding back after releasing eight gate against Madara ? Really..

Lee [after opening gates, it's his ability] and Kakashi [What's the point complaining that he had sharingan] saw through it..

Minato entered and evaded in a brief time, shows that he was able to see through it clearly..

Madara was staying as a punching bag [since he wanted to test Gai], didn't even use Limbo..

P.S. There are alot of people who can see through eight gates movements [Ex: Kaguya, Naruto, Hagoromo and Sasuke]

 

[lndra]

It's eight gate Gai...what's the point holding back after releasing eight gate against Madara ? Really..

Lee [after opening gates, it's his ability] and Kakashi [What's the point complaining that he had sharingan] saw through it..

Minato entered and evaded in a brief time, shows that he was able to see through it clearly..

Madara was staying as a punching bag [since he wanted to test Gai], didn't even use Limbo..

P.S. There are alot of people who can see through eight gates movements [Ex: Kaguya, Naruto, Hagoromo and Sasuke]

You are assuming that Rock Lee, Kakashi, and Madara can keep up with a 8-Gate Guy at full speed. So obviously something is not right.

Yes but those people are in fact too over-powered: Naruto and Kaguya I understand, but not Sasuke. He can't sense nor keep up with movements of that caliber, same with Kakashi and any other Uchiha.

Now to debunk this nonsese I had to look back at the chapters to correct your opinions on who can do what, and how.

Firstly.

At 8 Gate Gai Minato told him not to attack the black balls, but he could not keep with his movements. After Gai used Afternoon tiger, Gai fainted and was removed from the 8 Gate mode.

Madara sent his black ball towards an injured Gai to finish him off, then Minato used FTG with Kakashi to remove the said so ball. Then Rock Lee saved him.

I knew you were incorrect but I'm sorry if you had any confusion. Go read the manga again from 665 if you don't believe me.


Edit; More to add. Lee sent the FTG kunai at Madara's black ball because he was able to to pin point a timing with MADARA'S speed not Gai's to send the attack so that Gai could escape it. Then once that happened Minato teleported, and then Kakashi did his business. At that moment Gai stopped moving though.

Any more questions?

 

[Hazo]

You are assuming that Rock Lee, Kakashi, and Madara can keep up with a 8-Gate Guy at full speed. So obviously something is not right.

Yes but those people are in fact too over-powered: Naruto and Kaguya I understand, but not Sasuke. He can't sense nor keep up with movements of that caliber, same with Kakashi and any other Uchiha.

Now to debunk this nonsese I had to look back at the chapters to correct your opinions on who can do what, and how.

Firstly.

At 8 Gate Gai Minato told him not to attack the black balls, but he could not keep with his movements. After Gai used Afternoon tiger, Gai fainted and was removed from the 8 Gate mode.

Madara sent his black ball towards an injured Gai to finish him off, then Minato used FTG with Kakashi to remove the said so ball. Then Rock Lee saved him.

I knew you were incorrect but I'm sorry if you had any confusion. Go read the manga again from 665 if you don't believe me.


Edit; More to add. Lee sent the FTG kunai at Madara's black ball because he was able to to pin point a timing with MADARA'S speed not Gai's to send the attack so that Gai could escape it. Then once that happened Minato teleported, and then Kakashi did his business. At that moment Gai stopped moving though.

Any more questions?

Isn’t it obvious even if he’s in eight gates, he cannot touch them [since Madara can use onmyoudon]..

Gai fainted after using midday tiger [which is 7th gate move] and that’s when Lee jumped in and saved him [chapter 667]

Gai also stopped evening elephant midway at first [Due to extreme pain – chapter 669]

Kakashi was unable to aim accurately [So Gaara used sand to get him close to Madara – chap 699]

Lee sent the kunai between Madara and Gai [since he was able to clearly see through it – chapter 699] and Minato teleported in and out due to his reflxes… Don’t you see Minato shouting “Don’t stop no matter what”, which clearly implies Gai was moving at full speed…

Kakashi also Kamui the shield at the last moment in order to reduce the amount of time Madara has to react [Which clearly states that Kakashi was able to keep up with Gai's speed..

Maybe you need to re-read the manga clearly Lol​

 

[shelke]

Flight can easily counter 8 gates as long as the user remains a thousand feet or even few hundred feet above the ground. He cannot use them forever, and is in constant pain because of them. It has a limited time duration and Gai is done after that.

So did Madara when he covered himself in Gudoudamas and sent the rest of them towards Gai..

Lee and Kakashi timed their attacks according to Gai's speed as well...

Finally, someone who has been reading the damn manga. Finally!

 

[lndra]

Isn’t it obvious even if he’s in eight gates, he cannot touch them [since Madara can use onmyoudon]..

Gai fainted after using midday tiger [which is 7th gate move] and that’s when Lee jumped in and saved him [chapter 667]

Gai also stopped evening elephant midway at first [Due to extreme pain – chapter 669]

Kakashi was unable to aim accurately [So Gaara used sand to get him close to Madara – chap 699]

Lee sent the kunai between Madara and Gai [since he was able to clearly see through it – chapter 699] and Minato teleported in and out due to his reflxes… Don’t you see Minato shouting “Don’t stop no matter what”, which clearly implies Gai was moving at full speed…

Kakashi also Kamui the shield at the last moment in order to reduce the amount of time Madara has to react [Which clearly states that Kakashi was able to keep up with Gai's speed..

Maybe you need to re-read the manga clearly Lol​

Sigh I have to educate once more. I'll make this easy for you to understand because you seem to lack basic comprehension.

Gai initiated Night Elephant which is a rapid, but deadly potent blows to the body. Think back to Rock Lee vs. Gaara when he did rapid hits back and forth by bouncing on the walls.

Once he started Minato knew a counterattack would ensue so they began to plan. Gai was about to finish when they all started moving.

Once he did finished he sent Madara backwards and then Madara used his black balls to form an attack waiting for Gai to arrive who was in mid air. They told Gai not to stop because they had a plan to save him from Madara, as soon as Gai finished.

Rock lee reached him in time and threw the FTG knife and Kakashi and Gaara did their thing.

As you can clealrly see Gai sped up and broke through the defense. Gai was not moving at full speed in the air after Night Elephant.

When Rock Lee used the Gates in the Chunin Exam no one could see him properly, hell no on could track his movements after he took the weights off. Yet you're trying to say they can see and/or keep up with him? I don't know if you are trolling or just plain idiotic.

Please re-read the manga from the Chunin Exams if you need more insight Lol

 

[Hazo]

As you can clealrly see Gai sped up and broke through the defense. Gai was not moving at full speed in the air after Night Elephant.

When Rock Lee used the Gates in the Chunin Exam no one could see him properly, hell no on could track his movements after he took the weights off. Yet you're trying to say they can see and/or keep up with him? I don't know if you are trolling or just plain idiotic.

Please re-read the manga from the Chunin Exams if you need more insight Lol

Why are you comparing part I chuunin with current war arc [Cause you cant backup your arguments from events during war]

Gai not moving at full speed ? :hyper:...

This is a waste of my time, since you can't even counter argue to my previous post..

P.S. Anyone going through this thread would understand, who's correct..

 

[lndra]

Why are you comparing part I chuunin with current war arc [Cause you cant backup your arguments from events during war]

Gai not moving at full speed ? :hyper:...

This is a waste of my time, since you can't even counter argue to my previous post..

P.S. Anyone going through this thread would understand, who's correct..

They just released information on Night Elephant during the Madara battle where it stated he slowed down after the hit, hence why they could formulate a plan. Hence why Rock Lee said to continue Lol

You're whole comments were a waste of time, in fact you posting in this entire topic was a waste of time. I just could not handle this stupidity to be read by the viewers.

 

[Braveknight]

Why are you comparing part I chuunin with current war arc [Cause you cant backup your arguments from events during war]

Gai not moving at full speed ? :hyper:...

This is a waste of my time, since you can't even counter argue to my previous post..

P.S. Anyone going through this thread would understand, who's correct..

i see indra is correct, he used the speed of lee in chunin exam as an analogy for how they could not follow him back then

so he is saying now if back in chunin it was almost impossible to see him, what about currently

and on other posts he did post facts as well, you just childishly replied to him.

 

[UCE]

i see indra is correct, he used the speed of lee in chunin exam as an analogy for how they could not follow him back then

so he is saying now if back in chunin it was almost impossible to see him, what about currently

and on other posts he did post facts as well, you just childishly replied to him.

Not quite.

 

[Rike Senju]

Be Orochimaru or be able to use byakugo.

They both get one shotted by the technique.

 

[Bantos]

They both get one shotted by the technique.

Doesn't really seem that way.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Why are you comparing part I chuunin with current war arc [Cause you cant backup your arguments from events during war]

Gai not moving at full speed ? :hyper:...

This is a waste of my time, since you can't even counter argue to my previous post..

P.S. Anyone going through this thread would understand, who's correct..

In my opinion... I think you are correct. 8th Gate Gai is overrated imo

 

[lndra]

In my opinion... I think you are correct. 8th Gate Gai is overrated imo

He was proven incorrect because he didn't fully understand the manga chapters nor did Kishimoto correctly state what was happening. So I can give him the benefit of the doubt, however the latest Gai databook pages and Night Elephant have been proven on my side, therefore I wouldn't judge it based on this person's views. Go look at them yourself.

 

[shelke]

Just for the record, both Kakashi and Neji could track rocklee's movements, even Gai himself.

 

[VongolaX]

Finally, someone who has been reading the damn manga. Finally!

Flight can easily counter 8 gates as long as the user remains a thousand feet or even few hundred feet above the air. He cannot use them forever, and is in constant pain because of them. It has a limited time duration and Gai is done after that.

This should be taken into consideration.

Madara was playing Gai's game in a battle of taijustu, the fact is the Gai is fast no doubt but he is not instant.

Madara excepted Gai as the strongest taijustu user:

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Stating that he is the strongest in that field, Madara stood there waiting taking Gai's attacks head on.

Afterwards he fights Naruto and Sasuke on a serious speed level battle.

In this battle, Madara was not fighting with anything else but taijustu and the flailing of his rikudou staff

As a juubi jinchuuriki your speed becomes instant, even Kakashi noted that Madara was moving that fast when he grabbed his eye

 

[lndra]

Just for the record, both Kakashi and Neji could track rocklee's movements, even Gai himself.

I would expect that from Rock Lee speed without weights, but Rock Lee with Gates is impossible for Neji to track. Byakugan does not track movement.

Gai ... he might be a master. Though I cannot see him being able to track that speed normally, but I may be wrong. Kakashi with the Sharingan .. the dojutsu can only track up to a certain speed. Meaning: A certain level in the Gates cannot be tracked by the Sharingan's muscle movement psuedo prediction.

This should be taken into consideration.

Madara was playing Gai's game in a battle of taijustu, the fact is the Gai is fast no doubt but he is not instant.

Madara excepted Gai as the strongest taijustu user:

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Stated that he is the strongest, Madara stood there taking Gai's attack head on.

Afterwards he fights Naruto and Sasuke on a serious speed level battle.

In this battle, Madara was not fighting with anything else but taijustu and the flailing of his rikudou staff

Agreed with the both of you.

 

[BLAZE]

Gai initiated Night Elephant which is a rapid, but deadly potent blows to the body. Think back to Rock Lee vs. Gaara when he did rapid hits back and forth by bouncing on the walls.

imo it was not rapid enough to counter goudama sheild dats why kakashi's kamui and minato's FTG were needed so gai can land hit

Why are you comparing part I chuunin with current war arc [Cause you cant backup your arguments from events during war]

Gai not moving at full speed ? :hyper:...

This is a waste of my time, since you can't even counter argue to my previous post..

P.S. Anyone going through this thread would understand, who's correct..

i agree with ur previous post and i think u r right here

Just for the record, both Kakashi and Neji could track rocklee's movements, even Gai himself.

agreed with this too

Not quite.

Its my honour to see this username again

 

[lndra]

imo it was not rapid enough to counter goudama sheild dats why kakashi's kamui and minato's FTG were needed so gai can land hit



i agree with ur previous post and i think u r right here


agreed with this too

Its my honour to see this username again

I don't understand you're rebuttle man. I was explaining the rapid hits when he used the first > four steps.
Please read the topic over so you don't get confused again, but it's no biggie.

Also his points were dubunked thanks to our friend's the translators. Guess that means your judgement was wrong ~

 

[loj]

do u know how?

Nohow.

U can't he is just too fast do to s&%!