Sakura VS Neji CQC battle

[super yang]

Neji still stomps, yes

 

[neosmith500]

already went over how Sakura is faster than Neji so I'm not going to waste my time talking about that.

Yea, because in ur mind sakura can 'visually' keep up with kaguya.
Kaguya >>>V2 Juubito in speed. Sasuke was only able to follow juubito after receiving ashura/fox chakra ,while naruto had bsm

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Sakura cant visually keep up with any form of JJ level chars and ur point about sakura using speed an visual perception to tag kaguya is destroyed by manga canon in my above post.

it is important to note that Sakura got stabbed by an Omnyoudan rod and didn't end up with permanent damage.
These same rods can do unregenerable damage to edo tensei and I highly doubt that gentle fist can stop an edo from regenerating

We hav no idea how gentle fist would affect edo's which are basically walking ninjutsu for omnyoudan.

Sakura got stabbed and was saved, making her able to the wound or ignore it.

 

[neosmith500]

While Chiyo was of some help, she quickly got overwhelmed (1)(2), leaving Sakura to outrun puppets from all around her (1)(2)(3), all while not being able to attack them due to holding that seal

Dwl im convinced u have no understanding of anything happening in ur own scans lol.

Sakura never outran those puppets,they never attacked from all sides,they all aimed at the exact same spot an sakura jumped to evade, then used her CES to toss the seal

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Neji as a freaking genin completely shits on that so called impressive feat by avoiding raining amounts kunai from all directions

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Sakura gets blindsided from a single puppet.

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While genin neji avoids insane amounts of kunai that were already in his face while havin to cut webs

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Only getin hit by 3 via blindspot, neji negs her

 

[Icelerate]

First off,hav you ever heard of a lil thing called body flicker? which is standard for jonins to have?..Is gaara>>neji in footspeed aswel since he covered more ground in less time?

There is ntn to suggest that neji was goin top speed as he was shown to be roughly equal to kcm naruto's speed

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Take special note of the distance between kunai's.
Both were able to meet there respective kunai which were only a second away from clashing.

Just look at it like this,if kcm naruto had flung a kunai at hinata from from behind at that distance,do u think bloodlusted neji could intercept,since u claim he was goin top speed to kill hinata?
But the fact of the matter is that we have proof that he's able to do these feats.

Also sakura's fighting style is similar to iron fist in that it focuses on breaking bones and destroying the enemy with great strength,only lee/gai hav much more skill,speed,training and genius in the area.

I'm referring to Neji's movement speed, not the speed at which a kunai is thrown. Throwing a kunai is different since kunais have much less mass hence can go at a higher velocity than a human. Sure if Naruto flung a kunai at Hinata, Neji can intercept the kunai with his own like you showed in that scan.

The destructive power of Sakura's punches are so great that she can do a great deal of damage to multiple opponents without needing a direct hit so she doesn't need to be better in taijutsu to win the battle.

Thats not wat happend, most ur points are inaccurate an full of speculation.

Sakura never jumped or visually kept up with kaguya at all..
She was falling while looking at kaguya from above, the rest is history an so is the rest of ur points..Read the manga properly before u write walls of poop

How was Sakura able to punch Kaguya if Sakura can't see her target? How did Sakura never jump when the manga explicitly shows

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from on top of Kakashi's PS to a state in freefall. Sakura can only be in a state of freefall if she jumped away from the platform that she was previously standing on. So yes Sakura did make a leap off the susanoo, charge her fist with chakra and then strike Kaguya before Kaguya managed to escape.

Yea, because in ur mind sakura can 'visually' keep up with kaguya.
Kaguya >>>V2 Juubito in speed. Sasuke was only able to follow juubito after receiving ashura/fox chakra ,while naruto had bsm

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Sakura cant visually keep up with any form of JJ level chars and ur point about sakura using speed an visual perception to tag kaguya is destroyed by manga canon in my above post.


We hav no idea how gentle fist would affect edo's which are basically walking ninjutsu for omnyoudan.

Sakura got stabbed and was saved, making her able to the wound or ignore it.

No the two situations are different and I don't see how this helps your argument. If anything it makes your argument worse if you are implying that Sakura is faster than pre Rikudo Naruto and Sasuke. Sasuke and Naruto managed

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who was trying to evade them whereas Kaguya wasn't trying to evade Sakura but instead was focussed on Naruto and Sasuke. Not to mention Kaguya was flying linearly in that situation while Juubito was flying haphazardly. It is harder to keep up with something moving haphazardly than it is to keep up with something moving linearly.

Exactly my point, edo tensei's immortality and recovery is useless against omnyoudan which negates ninjutsu yet permanent damage wasn't inflicted on Sakura upon getting stabbed with an onnyoudan rod. Byakugou wasn't negated so this just goes to show that Byakugou isn't going to get shut down by blocking chakra points when Byakugou saved Sakura from something far worse.

Dwl im convinced u have no understanding of anything happening in ur own scans lol.

Sakura never outran those puppets,they never attacked from all sides,they all aimed at the exact same spot an sakura jumped to evade, then used her CES to toss the seal

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Neji as a freaking genin completely shits on that so called impressive feat by avoiding raining amounts kunai from all directions

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Sakura gets blindsided from a single puppet.

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While genin neji avoids insane amounts of kunai that were already in his face while havin to cut webs

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Only getin hit by 3 via blindspot, neji negs her

Sakura couldn't evade the puppet coming from her back because she was on the offensive against another puppet. Neji on the other hand managed to evade those kunais because he was on the defensive so his attention was focussed on evasion in that scenario. You say that Sakura's feat of evading all those puppets is unimpressive because they all attacked at the same point but the same can be said of Neji dodging projectiles aimed directly at him. He couldn't even evade them all despite having a much smaller blindspot than someone like Sakura.

These were the same guy's who were hyping the shit out of genin neji.
All ur point about neji bein overwhelmed by constant raing barrages are moot because sakura cant replicate any of this herself and her basic cqc skills are easily made null of effect by neji's much better skill,training,genius and precise fighting style..he has total advantage in cqc against her..

Her feat of tagging kaguya is also mooted by lack of information as A:
She was covered by kakashi's RPS chakra after it was destroyed.

B:We hav no proof she landed on the ground and lept after kaguya or if she floated with the chakra which possibly gives flight as she was already air born..

Never said Sakura is good in taijutsu like Neji is.

Bold: So now you're saying there is a possibility of Sakura acquiring flight? Slap yourself for your baseless speculation.

More bs, look closely with ur eyes,
all 3 were in the air and were blocked by a kisame,same kisame who was stated to bein a strong nd able combatant by none other than gai himself..

Neji also demonstrated a great striking feat when he broke out of water prison, striking and killin those same clones in the time it takes 6th gated gai to blitz,and this alone beats any striking feats from sakura shown in the puppet show..
Im getting to ur other points.

If all three were still in the air, they wouldn't have got blocked by Kisame as Kisame was on the ground and you can't make contact with someone on the ground if you are in the air. You can't get trapped in water prison if you are in the air, you have to be on the ground to do so.

Bold: Did you just say Neji is as fast as 6th gate Gai? Just stop man your arguments are terrible. I never said Sakura can strike as fast as Neji so proving to me that Neji is superior to her in striking speed is a pointless endeavour.

Let me end this pointless bs feat.
Kakashi made a plan,his PS was destroyed from above kaguya but its chakra remained above kaguya with sakura in it..take note of the size of PS

Kakashi fell and damaged kaguya leading up to naruto and sasuke's part all while sakura was still above kaguya with sussano chakra..

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Kaguya decided to bolt upward to meet the final and most important part of kakashi's plan which basically landed on top of her..

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She basically was looking down on kaguya the whole time while falling closer to her,then kaguya made it easier for her..
She reacted to ntn an in no way shows an impressive feat worthy of mention..
It only shows how badly kakashi's plan wouldve failed if kaguya never forgot she had byakugan.

I already know what happened but how does this refute anything I've said in my previous two posts? The fact that Sakura could accomplish Kakashi's plan successfully is a speed feat as I've explained numerous times already.

 

[Demonic.]

Icelerate clearly won here. Neosmith dodging most of his argument.

 

[neosmith500]

Throwing a kunai is different since kunais have much less mass hence can go at a higher velocity than a human

My point was that both naruto and neji were able to simultaneously intercept both there kunai even tho they had more ground to cover in less time.

Also, good point about kunai as neji was able to avoid a vast amount of high velocity kunai's while also having to simultaneously cut movement restricting webs that were in his face

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The destructive power of Sakura's punches are so great that she can do a great deal of damage to multiple opponents without needing a direct hit so she doesn't need to be better in taijutsu to win the battle

The destructive power of sakura's punches are made null of effect by neji's better CQC genius,quick air palms to unbalance her,better reaction timing, rotation and byakugan awareness

 

[neosmith500]

How did Sakura never jump when the manga explicitly shows Sakura jumping away from on top of Kakashi's PS

Lol by the time PS got taged, sakura was present inside its chakra, kakashi slipped away an sliced kaguya while sakura looking down on a falling kaguya slowly fell towards her while still covered in PS

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When kaguya decided to go upward the chakra and sakura were already much closer to her and sakura simply slipped out of the chakra an taged kaguya, she had her eyes set on kaguya from the start.

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Plz show me sakura standing on top the PS..While its clear that she was present inside as that was the plan, she simply slipped out once close enough, as her eyes were already locked on kaguya who made her job easier.

 

[neosmith500]

If all three were still in the air, they wouldn't have got blocked by Kisame as Kisame was on the ground and you can't make contact with someone on the ground if you are in the air

All 3 were still in the air when they were blocked as there feet never even touched the ground, look at lee's attack.

Did you just say Neji is as fast as 6th gate Gai? Just stop man your arguments are terrible.

Lol when did i imply that bs?..I said neji was able to solo strike 3 clones and tend to ten ten in the time it takes for 6th gated guy to blitz the original.

You say that Sakura's feat of evading all those puppets is unimpressive because they all attacked at the same point but the same can be said of Neji dodging projectiles aimed directly at him.

Sakura simply jumped to avoid those puppets, neji was placed into situations where simply jumping was not in the question by faster attacks

 

[Icelerate]

My point was that both naruto and neji were able to simultaneously intercept both there kunai even tho they had more ground to cover in less time.

All they did was throw kunais at each other whereas Naruto managed to shunshin all the way behind Neji (

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).

Also, good point about kunai as neji was able to avoid a vast amount of high velocity kunai's while also having to simultaneously cut movement restricting webs that were in his face

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Nice speed feat. Too bad Sakura's are way better than this one as I already explained to Draegod in great detail. Not to mention kunais are linear in nature so again not the greatest of speed feats.

The destructive power of sakura's punches are made null of effect by neji's better CQC genius,quick air palms to unbalance her,better reaction timing, rotation and byakugan awareness

Better CQC doesn't counter a massive AoE shockwave because unlike Neji, Sakura doesn't have to get close to attack her opponent, genius. None of what you stated is a proper counter as being aware doesn't mean you can outrun such a large scale attack. Rotation won't work as the ground underneath Neji will be disturbed and it requires balance to spin when rotating.

Lol by the time PS got taged, sakura was present inside its chakra, kakashi slipped away an sliced kaguya while sakura looking down on a falling kaguya slowly fell towards her while still covered in PS

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When kaguya decided to go upward the chakra and sakura were already much closer to her and sakura simply slipped out of the chakra an taged kaguya, she had her eyes set on kaguya from the start.

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Sakura couldn't have simply slipped out of the chakra considering Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke were in front of the susanoo proven by the fact that they were in the foreground while

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so if Sakura simply slipped out of the susanoo, she'd end up falling straight downwards, missing Kaguya entirely. Sakura can't simply slip out if she was inside susanoo like you are wrongly implying or else that implies Sakura has a way to control the susanoo and loosen its grip on her at will.

You're saying that the susanoo chakra and Sakura were very close to Kaguya at the point Kaguya decided to avoid Naruto and Sasuke, right? That just reinforces my point that Kaguya didn't have much distance to cover in the time it took Sakura to make the leap and time her punch.

Plz show me sakura standing on top the PS..While its clear that she was present inside as that was the plan, she simply slipped out once close enough, as her eyes were already locked on kaguya who made her job easier.

Sakura managed to lock her eyes on Kaguya despite not having a dojutsu. Show me Neji locking his eyes on something as fast as Kaguya. If Sakura was inside the susanoo,

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? She clearly made a forward leap towards Kaguya in that scan I'm showing you. Simply slipping out wouldn't get Sakura towards Kaguya as Kaguya would have simply flown away while Sakura just falls downwards.

 

[neosmith500]

All they did was throw kunais at each other

They also shunshined to intercept those kunai at the exact time of impact

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kunais are linear in nature so again not the greatest of speed feats

Reacting to rains of high velocity attacks simultaneously coming from a 360' attack radius while havin to contend with restricting webs from in front his face beats anything sakura has shown.

how come the susanoo isn't covering her body?

Sakura was present in the PS after it got damaged, that was the plan

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she never fell downwards as she was supported by chakra,then when she got close , simply exited the chakra which was not far behind.

Sakura did ntn but dive out similarly to kakashi but at a much closer distance.

 

[neosmith500]

if Sakura simply slipped out of the susanoo, she'd end up falling straight downwards, missing Kaguya entirely. Sakura can't simply slip out if she was inside susanoo like you are wrongly implying or else that implies Sakura has a way to control the susano

Key word 'control' .Sakura was directly above kaguya who was directly above kakashi who phased out of susano leaving sakura in its chakra, we see after ps got destroyed, the chakra remained, we hav seen that ms users can control there susano by spawning it far from the user himself, so why cant a rikudo powered MS do the same with sakura by controlin it up to the point where sakura is close enough an then enable her to jump out?

Sakura managed to lock her eyes on Kaguya

As i said she already had kaguya in sight, kaguya got damaged an was slowly falling, by the time kaguya decided to bolt, sakura was already there, she was not blitzin about while sakura visually kept up Lol

 

[neosmith500]

edo tensei's immortality and recovery is useless against omnyoudan which negates ninjutsu yet permanent damage wasn't inflicted on Sakura upon getting stabbed with an onnyoudan rod. Byakugou wasn't negated so this just goes to show that Byakugou isn't going to get shut down by blocking chakra

Why would it affect her byakugo when she pulled it out after gettin saved?,
Where does it show anyone getting stabbed an losin there ability even if it pulled out?

Edo's lose there limbs if they are removed by onnyoudan, edo's are walking ninjutsu.

Gentle fist specifically targets the points and closes then, meanin sakura wont be able to just open them without the aid of her seal like when she pulled out the onnyoudan rod.

In that instance neji can easily cripple her seal by invading it via gentle fist while simultaneously striking her vitals..
If a small amount of chakra from a dying neji could pass 50m and knock a healthy CS2 kidomaru off his tree, then nuff said.