Shinra Tensei Databook IV translation, so OP !

[OG sama]

That's BS. Sasuke can also use ST. And I like how you bring up nagatos profile and he also doesn't have yin release. But yet he can still use it.

 

[OG sama]

bro I will not argue with someone who use his fanfiction instead facts

1. fact one manga is over sasuke dont have it

2.fact 2 nagato is listed as only user

3.fact 3 eyes show their true power in pair- manga fact

man dont come up with your theory use facts dont fanfictions

You don't know how stupid you sound. How are the original owners of their rinnegans. Madara and sasuke not be able to use shines tense? If sasuke can use CT then he can use ST.

 

[OG sama]

Op just lost brain cells

Ikr. This sasuke hating is funny as shit. He pulls up nagatos profile, its listed that Nagato can't use yin release but says sasuke and obito can't use ST because obito doesn't have yin and sasuke doesn't have yang.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Madara's aka Kaguya's will came out of the Gedo mazou, Gedo mazou is Kaguya.

In short, both of their will pulled out a great deal of life energy from Nagato to use soul dragon.

The black rods itself is not the outerpath, it's the chakra being transmitted through them.

Edo Madara who had these black rods couldn't use the outerpath at all, he needed Obito or Nagato (if he were alive) to do it.

CT is not deva path move, Nagato channels all other moves through deva like: the body sacrifice substitution technique, astral lantern (akatsuki uses fir gathering), rain at will, and the copy seal team Gai faced during the gaara retrieval arc.

^^In short, just because deva used it doesn't mean it's a deva path technique other Justus can be used through deva outside the six path Justus.

For Haruma and naruto are also casters of chibakui tensei in the Databook and manga as well.



That was an act of outer path not preta path.

Sasuke himself didn't absorb all the bijuus chakra, his Susanoo did which resulted in a lightning human figure inside Susanoo.

Just like Gedo mazou, the mazou absorbs in the bijuu chakra not the user.

Sasuke used absorption technique on naruto after he punched him.



Deva pein never classified it as six path at all.

Did you read the databook on CT?

Kaguya's will was Black Zetsu which we saw around before Madara had Rinnegan, he tricked Madara by making him think he was Madara's will. It took Black Zetsu taking over Madara for Kaguya to be revived so you need the Juubi and BZ for Kaguya. I'm not saying the rods are outer path, the use of them are, Nagato use them to control dead bodies and Konan said Nagato lives outside life and death. Edo Madara was using chakra rods to block Edo Hashirama's chakra points and to control Obito. It could be that the user can revive themselve, Nagato didn't revive himself or did Kabuto say he could; he was planning on reviving Naruto and Bee after having Edo Nagato kill them but who would Madara want to revive around him?

The jutsus you listed aren't path abilities, the Peins can use non path jutsus just like how Obito's path were all using their own jutsus. The ability to summon Gedo isn't a Rinnegan ability, Madara told Obito even if he doesn't awaken his own Rinnegan that the Hashirama cells he has will allow him to summon and control the Gedo so Nagato Nagato having his Senju lineage and the Rinnegan which is Uchiha cells is all he needs for that. Deva path never used any other of the 6 paths. If he could use the other paths then why didn't he absorbed Naruto's Rasengan during his Deva path 5 sec interval? Or use weapon path to shoot lasers or missiles?

^^ in short, if all 3 jutsus (ST, BT, and CT) are all used by Deva Path and all are based on gravitational forces then they are Deva path abilities until you can show me one of the other 5 paths using CT while all 6 paths are out. Naruto and Hamura are listed in using the Sage CT that requires the use of Yin and Yang seals, it says that in the DB passage doesn't it?

What makes you think Sasuke didn't use Pretha path via PS? Madara used Deva path with his Susanoo and Sasuke shown using other jutsus with his PS such as his chidori. Other path talks about being able to use the 6 paths and the Gedo Mazo is called the demonic statue of the outer path. Susanoo is chakra that Emmit from Sasuke's body, Sasuke can use chidori with PS but PS doesn't form chakra does it?

 

[lanakui8]

are people actually arguing that Sasuke and Madara canʻt use shinra tensei despite both of them using chibaku tensei on a completely different skill level than nagato?

Also, where did the notion that sasuke doesnʻt have yang release come from? Just because he wasnʻt given hagoromoʻs yang chakra in no way implies he doesnʻt know yang release unless you believe that sasuke for some inexplicable reason was born w/o yang chakra.

 

[OG sama]

The OP is an idiot. Why would sasuke be able to use CT and not shinra tensei? I like how you lie and said CT isn't a deva path ability when it was already stated in the manga that it was. The DB also only mentions madara as the only PS user which is obviously false. DB is ****.

 

[OG sama]

I like how you dislike my post. But yet, can you prove any of it wrong? That's right you cant. You yourself know your wrong, the DB is full of inconsistencies even inside of it. And I like how you say its debatable despite DB only going up to 691 and sasuke didn't start using CT until afterwards. Which is a deva path ability just like shinra tensei.

 

[Ambivalence]

^ It's not his fault the Databook is a big pile of trash -as usual-, so no need for insults...

 

[KCMNaruto]

^ It's not his fault the Databook is a big pile of trash -as usual-, so no need for insults...

Personaly I believe he can, especially all orignal wielders of Rinnegan could do it with not problem at all.

However going by databook and manga shinra Tensei is out of question, but CT and BT he can because he has shown them

 

[OG sama]

^ It's not his fault the Databook is a big pile of trash -as usual-, so no need for insults...

Sorry it just seemed like he was ignoring things which have already been stated in the manga.

 

[OG sama]

Personaly I believe he can, especially all orignal wielders of Rinnegan could do it with not problem at all.

However going by databook and manga shinra Tensei is out of question, but CT and BT he can because he has shown them

Sorry bro shouldn't have blamed you.

 

[OG sama]

Personaly I believe he can, especially all orignal wielders of Rinnegan could do it with not problem at all.

However going by databook and manga shinra Tensei is out of question, but CT and BT he can because he has shown them

Its not out of the question, Nagato can't use yin release as shown by this DB you seem to go by. But yet can still use shinra tensei. Take my advice and not go by this garbage of a DB which has errors even inside of it.

 

[sirius49]

Glad that Kakashi tanked that 3 times while Hinata almost died by tanked it once.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Glad that Kakashi tanked that 3 times while Hinata almost died by tanked it once.

Kakashi tanked much weaker versions and from Pain.

Nagato's ST gg

 

[OG sama]

Kakashi tanked much weaker versions and from Pain.

Nagato's ST gg

That awkward moment when I realize shinra tensei never killed anyone noteworthy. Nevertheless you are right! I'm pretty sure its capable as well. It soloes most of narutoverse.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sorry bro shouldn't have blamed you.

no problem

Its not out of the question, Nagato can't use yin release as shown by this DB you seem to go by. But yet can still use shinra tensei. Take my advice and not go by this garbage of a DB which has errors even inside of it.

Well it is hard to ignore databook where most of people will use it, anyway I stick to Every Rinnegan user having potential to learn and master every sinle Rinnegan paths techniques

That awkward moment when I realize shinra tensei never killed anyone noteworthy. Nevertheless you are right! I'm pretty sure its capable as well. It soloes most of narutoverse.

Exactly, Plot protected them well.

Without plot protection they would be heavy damages

 

[VongolaX]

Kaguya's will was Black Zetsu which we saw around before Madara had Rinnegan, he tricked Madara by making him think he was Madara's will. It took Black Zetsu taking over Madara for Kaguya to be revived so you need the Juubi and BZ for Kaguya. I'm not saying the rods are outer path, the use of them are, Nagato use them to control dead bodies and Konan said Nagato lives outside life and death. Edo Madara was using chakra rods to block Edo Hashirama's chakra points and to control Obito. It could be that the user can revive themselve, Nagato didn't revive himself or did Kabuto say he could; he was planning on reviving Naruto and Bee after having Edo Nagato kill them but who would Madara want to revive around him?

Black zetsu was already attached to white zetsu:

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The one that came out of the Hashi clone is his will:

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Which is confirmed to be his chakra by Hashirama:

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The jutsus you listed aren't path abilities, the Peins can use non path jutsus just like how Obito's path were all using their own jutsus. The ability to summon Gedo isn't a Rinnegan ability, Madara told Obito even if he doesn't awaken his own Rinnegan that the Hashirama cells he has will allow him to summon and control the Gedo so Nagato Nagato having his Senju lineage and the Rinnegan which is Uchiha cells is all he needs for that. Deva path never used any other of the 6 paths. If he could use the other paths then why didn't he absorbed Naruto's Rasengan during his Deva path 5 sec interval? Or use weapon path to shoot lasers or missiles?

Deva path used the Outer path and the point is that he can use other rinnegan techniques.

Gedo mazou is a rinnegan ability, you need the rinnegan to unlock the seal.

However, since Obito was implanted Madara's will, he was able to use it as a substitution.

Deva path didn't use any other ability the same way crippled Nagato didn't use any other ability against sm naruto.

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^^ in short, if all 3 jutsus (ST, BT, and CT) are all used by Deva Path and all are based on gravitational forces then they are Deva path abilities until you can show me one of the other 5 paths using CT while all 6 paths are out. Naruto and Hamura are listed in using the Sage CT that requires the use of Yin and Yang seals, it says that in the DB passage doesn't it?

Assumption

What makes you think Sasuke didn't use Pretha path via PS? Madara used Deva path with his Susanoo and Sasuke shown using other jutsus with his PS such as his chidori. Other path talks about being able to use the 6 paths and the Gedo Mazo is called the demonic statue of the outer path. Susanoo is chakra that Emmit from Sasuke's body, Sasuke can use chidori with PS but PS doesn't form chakra does it?

Fan fiction

Madara was never stated to use deva path via Susanoo, keep all theories outside of this one.

That technique he used is something different entirely.

Sasuke didn't use preta path, otherwise kurama would of notified that

 

[KidGamer65]

Databook is obviously a load of BS. Databook and Manga state that Nagato has all the elements except for Yin Release, yet he can use Shinra Tensei.