Strongest opponent a Fanfic DSM Orochimaru can beat?

[Transcendence]

Orochimaru is given DSM, and all of Kabuto's feats including Sound 4 abilities. He also has access to Mokuton because of his Zetsu body, amplified by DSM to level just below Shinsenjuu. So his Mokuton is on the scale of Base Hashirama/Edo Madara.

Scenario 1: No Edo's.
Scenario 2: Edo BM Minato, Edo Tobirama and Edo Hiruzen are at his hand to summon if he wants to.

 

[Jaeger]

He beats Hashirama, BSM Naruto and EMS Madara but loses to Rinn'egan Madara due to obvious reasons.

 

[Transcendence]

He beats Hashirama, BSM Naruto and EMS Madara but loses to Rinn'egan Madara due to obvious reasons.

Which scenario are you referencing? I can see him beating those 3 in Scenario 2, but what is he doing to PS/Shinsenjuu in Scenario 1? (I agree that he beats BSM Naruto regardless).

 

[Jaeger]

Which scenario are you referencing? I can see him beating those 3 in Scenario 2, but what is he doing to PS/Shinsenjuu in Scenario 1? (I agree that he beats BSM Naruto regardless).

Orochimaru beats all three in both scenarios or loses high diff to Hashirama in first but loses to Rinn'egan Madara regardless the scenario.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

OHe also has access to Mokuton because of his Zetsu body, amplified by DSM to level just below Shinsenjuu. So his Mokuton is on the scale of Base Hashirama/Edo Madara.

Your reasoning on Orochimaru (hypothetical version) using this is the same reasoning why I have been arguing Kabuto can do via with Den'ien'ei. Which people think its impossible even with the conditions. And hearing others thoughts that "only I think the impossibility here". Ironically to say, how completely wrong they are for making that statement.

 

[Transcendence]

Your reasoning on Orochimaru (hypothetical version) using this is the same reasoning why I have been arguing Kabuto can do via with Den'ien'ei. Which people think its impossible even with the conditions. And hearing others thoughts that "only I think the impossibility here". Ironically to say, how completely wrong they are for making that statement.

Against which opponent are you referencing though? I don't underrate Kabuto, so I'm not sure why you're responding to my statement with that retort.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Against which opponent are you referencing though? I don't underrate Kabuto, so I'm not sure why you're responding to my statement with that retort.

Lol, you misread the tone of my post. I wasn't attacking you. It was a general statement, that people think it was irrational for me to say Kabuto can use a feat that can be supported, that isn't base on not actually seeing it in the manga to believe its true.

But you, on the other can reason and agree with it, base on your hypothetical scenario.

 

[Transcendence]

Lol, you misread the tone of my post. I wasn't attacking you. It was a general statement, that people think it was irrational for me to say Kabuto can use a feat that can be supported, that isn't base on not actually seeing it in the manga to believe its true.

But you, on the other can reason and agree with it, base on your hypothetical scenario.

Oh, haha. No I know the tone of your post, I was just wondering what your point was xD

It isn't irrational at all. Naruto VS' are all about match-ups. Which is why I think Kabuto (no edo's) is a better match-up against someone like Base Hashirama (SM Hashirama is out of the question) because of his mobility, whereas someone like Nagato, who does possess more power than Kabuto is far less mobile and his techniques lack variety, unlike Kabuto's wide variety, like Muki Tensei and various Genjutsu uses.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

(SM Hashirama is out of the question)

Kabuto still has his chances in my option, base on two reasons.

1. Whether you believe Kabuto gave most of his snake summonings poison that he created.
2. Creating either Hashirama or Zetsu's body with Den'ien'ei, to access the ability Mayfly. Which will merge with 99% of Hashirama's jutsus.

 

[Transcendence]

Kabuto still has his chances in my option, base on two reasons.

1. Whether you believe Kabuto gave most of his snake summonings poison that he created.
2. Creating either Hashirama or Zetsu's body with Den'ien'ei, to access the ability Mayfly. Which will merge with 99% of Hashirama's jutsus.

Yeah, but what are those summons doing to Sennin Modo amplified Mokuton. We're talking about the same Mokuton that was stalemating and put down Madara's PS?

Merging with them will just delay the inevitable, and if anything, if Hashirama has to, bringing out Shinsenjuu will end this regardless.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yeah, but what are those summons doing to Sennin Modo amplified Mokuton. We're talking about the same Mokuton that was stalemating and put down Madara's PS?

Well only Manda 2 can match SM amp Mokuton, bar SS. Or at least exchange a blow(<-a bite to inject poison) before going down.

Merging with them will just delay the inevitable, and if anything, if Hashirama has to, bringing out Shinsenjuu will end this regardless.

Basically, if Kabuto were to merge with SS, wouldn't that make SS the new battlefield to fight on, because SS isn't going to be hitting itself. Thats like trying to fight off lice in your hair, with just your bare hands.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunami still wrecks