[VS] Itachi vs 3rd Raikage

[Sweet Pudding]

Intel : Manga
Location : Madara vs Kage
Restrictions : Edo Body

 

[Haizaki]

Raikage wins.

 

[Conspirator.]

I think Itachi can win high difficulty.

 

[Beans2]

Itachi wins this low-mid difficulty

-With the Raikage having no intel on itachi almost guarantees him being looking in Itachi's eyes and getting caught in a genjutsu
-The Third is not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu

 

[Chazzi]

Fight ends before it even begins. Normal sharingan genjutsu is enough.

 

[Transcendence]

Tsukuyomi ends this. No need to even try to penetrate his Raiton Armour when you can attack his head and mentally demolish him. Only V2 Ay and above is too fast for the Sharingan movement (Pre-Cog which would supersede Genjutsu as you need eye contact to land Tsukuyomi). Fight ends before it begins.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

Itachi wins this low-mid difficulty

-With the Raikage having no intel on itachi almost guarantees him being looking in Itachi's eyes and getting caught in a genjutsu
-The Third is not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu

Bold is false
Ay easily dodged so obviously the strongest Raikage can do it plus he can also use his lighting armor to remove the flames like how Naruto used his Kurama chakra

 

[Transcendence]

Bold is false
Ay easily dodged so obviously the strongest Raikage can do it plus he can also use his lighting armor to remove the flames like how Naruto used his Kurama chakra

Easily? No. He dodged Amaterasu only after he used his V2 Shroud, something the Sandaime Raikage doesn't have. And his Lightning Armour doesn't function the way Naruto's Kurama chakra works, otherwise Ay would have remove the Amaterasu by resonating chakra off his cloak instead of having to cut his arm off.

 

[Apêx1]

Tsukiyomi gg.

 

[LuckyMan]

Easily? No. He dodged Amaterasu only after he used his V2 Shroud, something the Sandaime Raikage doesn't have. And his Lightning Armour doesn't function the way Naruto's Kurama chakra works, otherwise Ay would have remove the Amaterasu by resonating chakra off his cloak instead of having to cut his arm off.

Proof Ay needed his V2 to dodge?

Kishi nerfed Amaterasu. At that point in the manga it was still hyped to one shot and the only way to counter was removing that part of your body like Bee cutting Gyukis tails off, Sasuke leaving the old body behind with Oral Rebirth, and Ay cutting his arm off. A violent force of chakra being expelled from the body removes the flames so tetechniques like Full Body Blow, Almighty Push, Jinchuriki Cloak, Opening the Gates, and Lightning Armors are all effective counters to it.

Intel is manga too so how does Sandaime have no Intel?

 

[Apêx1]

People seriously need to learn how Ama works. If Sasuke can see his opponent then the Amateratsu will follow what he is gazing at, which is the perceive opponent. When Ay used his Shunshin+v2 Raiton shroud, he went out of Sasuke's eye sight, thus Sasuke couldn't have it hit Ay in v2. v1 Ay was definitely perceived, so saying he will evade Ama is nothing but spewing ignorance.

 

[LuckyMan]

People seriously need to learn how Ama works. If Sasuke can see his opponent then the Amateratsu will follow what he is gazing at, which is the perceive opponent. When Ay used his Shunshin+v2 Raiton shroud, he went out of Sasuke's eye sight, thus Sasuke couldn't have it hit Ay in v2. v1 Ay was definitely perceived, so saying he will evade Ama is nothing but spewing ignorance.

Hmm. Thats strange because I recall V1 Ay blitzing Sasukes head off had Suigetsu not saved him. The only time Sasuke ever perceived V1 Ay was when they clashed and neither of them used Shunshin, just foot speed. He perceived Ays motion of attack speed and ducked his elbow not his movement speed because they were all already coming at one another and would eventually meet anyway. Actually how about this, every time Ay used shunshin Sasuke couldn't perceive his movements but if it was Ay just using foot speed, or being stationary and attacking with a chop/punch in general, Sasuke could perceive those motions of movement but V1 Ays shunshin was beyond his capabilities.

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: Sasuke gets blitzed by V1 Ay. Didn't perceive him or Darui's shunshin despite his eyes locked on them. Suigetsu saved his life.

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: Eyes locked on V1 Ay. Didn't even perceive Ay had shunshin'd out of Juugos basts range.

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: Sasuke and Ay clash and he percieved his motion of attack.

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: Ay is stationary above him after Liger Bomb and Sasuke percieves his motion of attack again, evading the strike.

I think Sasukes eyes were good enough to perceive Ays motion of attack (attack speed) when he is only stationary or using basic foot speed though. When he combines his shunshin with it Sasuke couldn't perceive a thing.

Hebi Sasuke foot speed was outrunning Amaterasu so I'm sure Sandaimes foot speed in V1 is way above that and would have no problems, but Lightning Armor removes them anyway so its non-factor.

 

[Jaeger]

Hmm. Thats strange because I recall V1 Ay blitzing Sasukes head off had Suigetsu not saved him. The only time Sasuke ever perceived V1 Ay was when they clashed and neither of them used Shunshin, just foot speed. He perceived Ays motion of attack speed and ducked his elbow not his movement speed because they were all already coming at one another and would eventually meet anyway. Actually how about this, every time Ay used shunshin Sasuke couldn't perceive his movements but if it was Ay just using foot speed, or being stationary and attacking with a chop/punch in general, Sasuke could perceive those motions of movement but V1 Ays shunshin was beyond his capabilities.

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: Sasuke gets blitzed by V1 Ay. Didn't perceive him or Darui's shunshin despite his eyes locked on them. Suigetsu saved his life.

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: Eyes locked on V1 Ay. Didn't even perceive Ay had shunshin'd out of Juugos basts range.

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: Sasuke and Ay clash and he percieved his motion of attack.

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: Ay is stationary above him after Liger Bomb and Sasuke percieves his motion of attack again, evading the strike.

I think Sasukes eyes were good enough to perceive Ays motion of attack (attack speed) when he is only stationary or using basic foot speed though. When he combines his shunshin with it Sasuke couldn't perceive a thing.

Hebi Sasuke foot speed was outrunning Amaterasu so I'm sure Sandaimes foot speed in V1 is way above that and would have no problems, but Lightning Armor removes them anyway so its non-factor.

If not for genjutsu. Same with Darui. So I guess Darui is faster than Sasuke now? And no, your point makes no sense, trying to make it sound prettier doesn't change the fact that not only did Sasuke see E coming but also dodged him with Sharingan precog, the guy who got schooled by B. Itachi who is much faster and has better reflexes, does much, much worse.

1. Stop man. I guess Suigetsu > E because he got in between? Come on.

2. Stated where?

3. How can you spout something else when you yourself agree?

4. Wow... another scan contradicting your post.

:|

Because Itachi totally wanted to kill him and didn't perceive people like KM Naruto and B when fighting both of them in CQC at the same time. Unless, Hebi Sasuke > B & KM Naruto although that makes no sense when got wrecked already.

 

[Apêx1]

Hmm. Thats strange because I recall V1 Ay blitzing Sasukes head off had Suigetsu not saved him. The only time Sasuke ever perceived V1 Ay was when they clashed and neither of them used Shunshin, just foot speed. He perceived Ays motion of attack speed and ducked his elbow not his movement speed because they were all already coming at one another and would eventually meet anyway. Actually how about this, every time Ay used shunshin Sasuke couldn't perceive his movements but if it was Ay just using foot speed, or being stationary and attacking with a chop/punch in general, Sasuke could perceive those motions of movement but V1 Ays shunshin was beyond his capabilities.

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: Sasuke gets blitzed by V1 Ay. Didn't perceive him or Darui's shunshin despite his eyes locked on them. Suigetsu saved his life.

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: Eyes locked on V1 Ay. Didn't even perceive Ay had shunshin'd out of Juugos basts range.

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: Sasuke and Ay clash and he percieved his motion of attack.

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: Ay is stationary above him after Liger Bomb and Sasuke percieves his motion of attack again, evading the strike.

I think Sasukes eyes were good enough to perceive Ays motion of attack (attack speed) when he is only stationary or using basic foot speed though. When he combines his shunshin with it Sasuke couldn't perceive a thing.

Hebi Sasuke foot speed was outrunning Amaterasu so I'm sure Sandaimes foot speed in V1 is way above that and would have no problems, but Lightning Armor removes them anyway so its non-factor.

Why are you supporting my point?

And again, Hebi Sasuke got hit because he couldn't leave Itachi's sight. Sasuke also had started running, if he didn't it would've spawned on him, but obviously it is impossile to spawn Ama on a moving target since focusing on thin air ahead of the perceived soon-to-come movement is impoosible. Sandaime doesn't know about Ama, so he doesn't move before Itachi fires it. Not to mention finger genjutsu or 3T genjutsu followed by Ama would negate any such beliefs. Tsukiyomi would one shot.. Don't really see what's being debated here?

 

[MadaraReturns]

lol itachi wins

 

[LuckyMan]

If not for genjutsu. Same with Darui. So I guess Darui is faster than Sasuke now? And no, your point makes no sense, trying to make it sound prettier doesn't change the fact that not only did Sasuke see E coming but also dodged him with Sharingan precog, the guy who got schooled by B. Itachi who is much faster and has better reflexes, does much, much worse.

Sharingan sees through Genjutsu so that point here is moot.

1. Stop man. I guess Suigetsu > E because he got in between? Come on.

Or Suigetsu was with Karin above their heads on that ledge and had a lesser distance to travel than Ay did.

2. Stated where?

You need the obvious stated for you?

>Sasukes eyes are locked on V1 Ay.
>Didn't see Ay shunshin out of Juugos blast range.
>Conclusion = Sasuke lost sight of V1 Ay when he shunshin.

3. How can you spout something else when you yourself agree?

You clearly either don't understand the difference between movement and attack speed or you didn't understand my post altogether.

>Sasuke ducks Ays elbow
>Ay didn't use shunshin to engage with that attack
>Conclusion = Sasuke can perceive V1 Ays fight speed, not his movement speed.

4. Wow... another scan contradicting your post.

Nope, it shows Sasuke perceiving Ays attack in a stationary position and he dodges it. Standing still and punching Sasuke is different than using body flicker then punching him.

Because Itachi totally wanted to kill him and didn't perceive people like KM Naruto and B when fighting both of them in CQC at the same time. Unless, Hebi Sasuke > B & KM Naruto although that makes no sense when got wrecked already.

Yeah because Bee and Naruto totally wanted to kill Itachi and not chit chat about nothing.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Itachi wins this

 

[ARGUS]

Itachi wins this

--The raikage cant evade amaterasu, and with itachi being able to track him rather easily means that he spawns the flames right at his face 2-3 times to take him down,

--With itachi being able to keep track of the raikages speed, means that he can also use a clone feint or his crows to put him under tsukuyomi which finishes the raikage off

 

[Kakooli]

Finger genjutsu, tsukiyomi or just a normal eye genjutsu. Take your pick.

If genjutsu somehow didn't work then Itachi is smart enough to work out the Raikage's ultimate weakness. If Naruto could then there's no reason why Itachi couldn't.

 

[Demonic.]

Itachi wins low difficulty. Genjutsu gg.