[VS] Minato vs Bee

[Kamui Sama]

It would be funny if Minato could undo Bee's iron armour seal

 

[Benjamin King]

I ignored it because it doesn't matter. One TBB explosion was enough to understand Hachibi's durability limit considering how heavily injured he was. If we see how one affect him so badly, why would i talk about something else?

Because you know those other examples debunk your point.

Juubi's TBB able to reach the atmosphere, Hachibi's head caught in the Light Damage barely damaged him:

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Kurama's full charged TBB was contained without efforts by Hachibi, who stated only fraction of his power can enter Naruto's consciousness:

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Hachibi took on Gobi's horn attack, whereas Kurama was wrecked by Futon: Rasenshuriken. You also ignored my question. Nice cherry picking, though.

 

[Bogard]

Debunk which point? We see(manga fact) him heavily injured after tanking a bijudama showing the bijudama explosion was powerful enough to overcome its durability(something you still didn't bother acknowledging). And i replied to your question. Look again

 

[Benjamin King]

Debunk which point? We see(manga fact) him heavily injured after tanking a bijudama showing the bijudama explosion was powerful enough to overcome its durability(something you still didn't bother acknowledging). And i replied to your question. Look again

Heavily damaged? I want to see the heavy damage he took. Care to show me a manga panel? So let me get this straight: You acknowledge Hachibi's TBB to be more powerful than V2 Juubi's TBB, which Bee's head was caught inside the Light Damage blast area, and took minimum damage? I hope you don't acknowledge this fallacy, Bogard. Cutting or piercing =/= explosive blast. Bee was intending to block the TBB with his tails covered. He wouldn't have resorted to this if he had known his durability was poor.

Again, you conceded when you ignored Juubi's TBB and Kurama's TBB examples I provided.

 

[Bogard]

I'll reply you tomorrow. Have to go out now

 

[Strict]

Entering BM will become Bee's worst nightmare...

Bijuudamas are no problem, as Minato just sends them away with his barrier.
The nightmare begins, when Minato or one of his clones marked Hachibi, which will be no problem considering its size.

And now imagine Minato teleporting Hachibi's Bijuudamas to a seal he desires, for example the seal on Hachibi's body..

 

[ARGUS]

Killer B wins this

--He can use WhirlWind to blow away any of thhe surrounding markings and then proceed to fire off TBB barrages which kill minato, as he wont have the means here to teleport it away, without any prep, nor would the S/T barrier suffice in teleporting multiple targets before the TBB collide and kill minato

--Bee can also simply use Bijuu Waves to kill minato which minato doesnt really have counters for, nor can he teleport or tank it, and without prep, FTG isnt helping either,

--summons such as gamabunta are non factor, one Bijuu wave or a TBB and they die, nor do they pose any threat whatsoever at CQC

--Sage toads arent helping either, when minato still has no way whatsoever to even hurt the hachibi, and genjutsus such as frog song are not happening before the hachibi blows minato up

 

[Draegod]

Stb has to first have premark in place, Or even better have bee marked. Bee fires tbb, minato makes seals and throws linked Kunais towards the tbb, it hits bee and explode. Fact one, the explosion range is beyond what minato has shown to escape, he gets caught a as well but dies. Fact 2, the tbb kurama used on him was the slow charging one, bee can preform almost instant rapid tbb with no warning! Minato has no way to beat full bijuu mode, and V1 literally tanks everything he has shown. Ma and pa are literally his only hope of making it a close match up tbh.

 

[Beans2]

...And now, why on earth, would Bee fire off a TBB at someone who he knows can teleport instantly to avoid it? Even if he does it once and it gets redirected towards him, he tanks it and will know not to do it again after seeing that it can just be warped back at him with S/T barrier.

I mean, the only two ways I see Minato winning is:

Frog Genjutsu, standard enough.

Redirecting Bijuu Bombs. Which, Bee has tanked his own and far stronger in the past. Bee's without a doubt stronger, but Minato's just got some versatility on his side.

Genjutsu doesn't work on a perfect jin.

OT: Bee wins this. He can use 8 tails whirlwind to destroy any kunais or marked locations, limiting the places where Minato can teleport to. Then he goes on a rampage and smashes Minato. The only thing Minato has that can pose any trouble are his toad summons, he loses mid diff. Give Minato perfect sage mode to make this matchup more interesting.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I love the fact that Minato apparently has the reputation as an "over-wanked character," Yet, Minato's pitted against an opponent that he's canonically fought multiple times along with another fearsome shinobi, and survived, yet people say Bee wins this with low-mid diff?! Yeah, Minato's not over wanked (minus a couple of scenarios), he's underrated.



Ok, down to arguments. First off, Bee tanked a TBB. Congrats. He's also lost a tail to chidori spear, which, although extended, is weaker than normal chidori. Minato's also canonically cut through Bee's flesh with his kunai. What's to stop his attack again? In these conditions, Minato has a perpetual true Sage Mode. Minato has been shown to have giant ransengan capability, and a base senpou ransengan can do this.

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Considering how tiny Naruto and Tobirama look, that was one heck of an impact. Take a giant version of it, or dare I say it, massive version (logically Minato has to have it given his mastery of ransengan and high chakra reserves), and Minato messes Bee up, bad, or uses kunai to cut him up, or uses the toad's water jet to cut him. This isn't Kurama. Both logically, and with feat capability, Minato wins.

 

[Beans2]

I love the fact that Minato apparently has the reputation as an "over-wanked character," Yet, Minato's pitted against an opponent that he's canonically fought multiple times along with another fearsome shinobi, and survived, yet people say Bee wins this with low-mid diff?! Yeah, Minato's not over wanked (minus a couple of scenarios), he's underrated.



Ok, down to arguments. First off, Bee tanked a TBB. Congrats. He's also lost a tail to chidori spear, which, although extended, is weaker than normal chidori. Minato's also canonically cut through Bee's flesh with his kunai. What's to stop his attack again? In these conditions, Minato has a perpetual true Sage Mode. Minato has been shown to have giant ransengan capability, and a base senpou ransengan can do this.

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Considering how tiny Naruto and Tobirama look, that was one heck of an impact. Take a giant version of it, or dare I say it, massive version (logically Minato has to have it given his mastery of ransengan and high chakra reserves), and Minato messes Bee up, bad, or uses kunai to cut him up, or uses the toad's water jet to cut him. This isn't Kurama. Both logically, and with feat capability, Minato wins.

Bee tanked a tailed beast bomb and you say Minato cuts him up with a kunai or kills him with a rasengan.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bee tanked a tailed beast bomb and you say Minato cuts him up with a kunai or kills him with a rasengan.

The tailed beast bomb he "tanked" left him in shambles.
Minato's already cut his tails b4, and he already admitted that a kunai if aimed in the right location can kill him.

 

[Beans2]

The tailed beast bomb he "tanked" left him in shambles.
Minato's already cut his tails b4, and he already admitted that a kunai if aimed in the right location can kill him.

What are you implying here? That Minato is going to kill Bee by stabbing him with a kunai? Cutting one of Bee's small tentacles which he used in base does not equate to him remotely damaging him in BM form.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Bee tanked a tailed beast bomb and you say Minato cuts him up with a kunai or kills him with a rasengan.

In a single blow? No. But eventually. As I've said, freaking chidori was getting him!

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3rd Raikage fought him to a stand-still, and he certainly didn't have anything like a TBB. Inability to one-shot/=/inability to gradually wear someone down with continuous damage.

 

[Beans2]

In a single blow? No. But eventually. As I've said, freaking chidori was getting him!

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3rd Raikage fought him to a stand-still, and he certainly didn't have anything like a TBB. Inability to one-shot/=/inability to gradually wear someone down with continuous damage.

Minato is not going to gradually wear down a tailed beast through continuous damage by using a kunai knife or a rasengan. A single tentacle getting cut apart means nothing. Sasuke cut through that tentacle because his Chidori Sharp Spear was long enough to cut through it - a kunai knife is not cutting the thicker tentacle because it is not long enough to cut all the way through. The Third Raikage had the one-fingered nukite which is a stronger attack than Rasenshuriken, do not compare it to a kunai or a rasengan :|

 

[Conspirator.]

Bee beats Alive Minato with no more than mid difficulty.

-Once Bee enters bijuu mode, MInato has ZERO ways of putting him down with his own attacks, when KB survived his own bijuudama.
-Minato's only chance is to somehow teleport a bijuudama back at Bee but that won't happen when whirlwind blows the kunai's away from him.
- A barrage of bijuudama have a massive AOE(which KB can fire off quickly), and they obliterate Minato.
-Sound genjutsu doesn't work on perfect jins.
-v2 tanks Minato's attacks too, and prevents him from getting marked.

Bee takes it mid diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Ignore Dimitri... Minato stomps only because of the toads...

 

[Bogard]

Minato's kunais range

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It was dwarfing Perfect Susanoo, V2 Jubi and co

And V2 Jubi itself is countless times bigger than Hachibi

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And this was base Minato's kunai range. In SM where he gets drastical increase in physical strength, it should be even much greater than this

Someone seriously need to tell how the explosion of Hachibi's small Bijudamas

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are going to hit someone who can teleport battlefields away because i see that recurring argument often here but i really wonder if you know what you're talking about

Not to mention like Strict said, in Hachibi mode, he becomes a huge target easy to mark. Just imagine his body getting marked. Using Bijudamas will only make him a dead meat if only one gazed him out

Also, the S/T barrier instantly teleported

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a Bijudamas thousand times bigger than Hachibi's continous bijudamas

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. The barrier IS big enough to take all the bijudamas he'd want to send if it can take something thousand times bigger. Not to mention considering the fact Minato had time to throw a kunai and have a small "hi" by the time it reached the other side of the redirected marking, it means, Minato can even warp a space barrier first and throw a kunai(assuming he isn't marked yet) in Hachibi's direction making him receive his own Bijudamas in this case

 

[Strict]

-Minato's only chance is to somehow teleport a bijuudama back at Bee but that won't happen when whirlwind blows the kunai's away from him.

Entering BM will become Bee's worst nightmare...

Bijuudamas are no problem, as Minato just sends them away with his barrier.
The nightmare begins, when Minato or one of his clones marked Hachibi, which will be no problem considering its size.

And now imagine Minato teleporting Hachibi's Bijuudamas to a seal he desires, for example the seal on Hachibi's body..

Still no counter to this. Minato already marked Hachibi's tentacle once. Marking an object of titanic proportions is easy. Once Hachibi is marked, BM becomes completely useless, as any TBB is sent back to him.

 

[Jaeger]

Strict ended this with a single post.

Also, I'd like to add the fact that once Minato enters Hermit Mode he's going to wreck B in strength BM or not when a clone from Naruto overpowered Kurama with sheer strength and lift it casually like a normal pet. Whirlwind is therefore stopped or doesn't even factor in this fight.

B doesn't stand a chance here.