[Discussion] Israel Campaigns Against Global Free Speech

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Alarmed at the rise of anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli sentiments on the internet, Israeli politicians recently called for nations around the world to enact legislation prohibiting criticism of Jews and Israel. Lobbying to outlaw global free speech is nothing new for Israel, however; it has been in the business of criminalizing speech for decades.

Israel is in the precarious position of receiving tens of billions of dollars in aid every year from nations that purport to support democracy, while simultaneously oppressing the Palestinian people and perpetrating what Nobel Peace Prize winners Bishop Desmond Tutu and President Jimmy Carter deem an apartheid. If the American or European people ever knew that their tax dollars where being used in such a way they would surely cut Israel off. In order to conceal this truth and stifle any criticism, Israel and its lobbyists rely on sympathy from the Holocaust and labels of anti-Semitism to discredit critics. Even US Secretary of State John Kerry was recently called an anti-Semite for supporting a peaceful resolution to the Jewish/Palestinian conflict. Kerry is not alone however, President Obama, and just about anyone who has ever opposed an Israeli policy has been labeled anti-Semitic by his enemies. In order to add teeth to these labels, Israel lobbyists around the world lobby endlessly to criminalize anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Israel’s threat of forcing world governments to enact new laws against free speech should not be taken lightly. Israel and its lobbyists have already succeeded in enacting stiff anti-racist laws in most Western countries. These laws have been used on numerous occasions to jail academics, pro-Palestinian activists, and also individuals who have spoken provable facts that are deemed anti-Semitic “canards“.

In Australia, Jewish groups lobbied successfully to outlaw holocaust study and “hate speech.” As with most laws regulating speech and academic study, it has been routinely abused, and is now on the list for repeal. In fact, the law is so tied to Jewish lobbying, that the Jewish newspaper Hareetz published an article: Australian Jews brace for a fight against the repeal of hate laws.

truth-new-hate-speechIn Canada, Jewish groups lobbied for the enactment of hate speech regulation, and defend its use today. In 1983, Israel lobbyists filed a complaint against Ernst Zundal over a book he had written. He was tried several times, his citizenship application in Canada denied (even though he had resided there for decades), he was detained for two years without trial, and eventually deported to Germany where he was sentenced to 5 years imprisonment.

In France, Israel lobbyists publicly complained about comedian Dieudonne’s parodies of Israel and the holocaust. His home was raided, his shows banned, and hefty fines were imposed. England also followed suit and barred Dieudonne’s entrance into the country. In 2003, the French legislator and Israel lobbyist Pierre Lellouche managed to push through a law which extends the definition of discrimination to include nationalities so anti-Israel activists could be jailed. In 2009, the Lellouche law was used to convict 20 anti-Israel activists.

In England, Jewish lobbying efforts successfully enacted strict hate speech laws, and in Austria, acclaimed historian David Irving was incarcerated after Israel lobbyists complained about his academic work. The European Jewish Parliament and the chief Israel lobbyist in Belgium recently called for similar laws to stifle criticism of Israel. According to the Canadian Jewish News article French Vigilance on anti-Israel speech provoking backlash, Israel lobbyists are also attempting to enact similar legislation in the Netherlands.

In America, the Israel lobby has been fighting mightily for years to prohibit hate speech. Those efforts have been unsuccessful thus far, but they have managed to enact hate crime legislation. As Abe Foxman of the ADL noted, the social consequences in America for bigotry against Jews are so severe, (given disproportionate Jewish influence in government, media, finance, higher education, professional sports, etc…) that anti-Israel speakers often see graver consequences than the criminal sanctions they would face in Europe. For example, if one were to be labeled an “anti-Semite,” even if the allegations were wholly unsubstantiated, he would most likely be fired and ostracized from society.

One has to realize that Israel’s efforts having nothing to do with hate speech, anti-Semitism or holocaust denial, but are rather about stifling critical speech that affects Israel and its lobbyists. For example, we know that Israel and its lobbyists are not offended by holocaust denial because Israel and its lobbyists are the leading proponents of Armenian holocaust denial in the world today. Israel should also not be particularly offended by anti-Semitism, because Israel is actually one of the most racist and anti-Semitic nations on the planet.

Today, Israel is furiously enacting anti-free speech laws, hiring internet trolls to spread propaganda and disinformation, and even asking the Jewish owners of social media websites Facebook, Wikipedia, Google, and Youtube to remove material Israel does not like, regardless of its truth or merit. Israel has also campaigned against political parties it does not like in Greece, Hungary, and Ukraine. In Greece, the anti-Israel Golden Dawn Party was disbanded and its leaders arrested for no legal reason. This is a dangerous precedent that threatens world wide freedom and must be combatted immediately, before speaking out against such Israeli efforts is also illegal.

Laws protecting free speech are put in place specifically to protect speech that powerful groups find objectionable. Otherwise, there is no free speech and it is just a matter of time before the list of prohibited phrases grows to include everything the powerful oppose. If it’s illegal to speak about certain races, the disabled or elderly, then why not government employees, and then the rich, or poor, and so on? Either speech is totally protected or it is not protected at all. The point of speech protection is to protect the most unpopular forms of speech. Popular forms of speech obviously need no protection.

 

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First Tell them to lay their hands of from Gaza . Don't kill the Poor People of Gaza Israel done really Bad things to Palestine People.
 

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Israel is fighting hate speech. The U.S. has laws against that too.

The site that hosts this article has a bunch of other ridiculous articles to follow suit:
Like this one claiming Hamas is one of the most "moral" terrorist groups --
And this one about Putin being one of the best leaders:
 

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Just your average attempt to shave away at the masses' civil rights. And if their excuse is that the free speech might create enemies than they shouldn't have terrorized the Palestinians with the financial help of USA and demonize black Africans that fled to Israel.
 

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Israel is fighting hate speech. The U.S. has laws against that too.

The site that hosts this article has a bunch of other ridiculous articles to follow suit:
Like this one claiming Hamas is one of the most "moral" terrorist groups --
And this one about Putin being one of the best leaders:

There is no such thing as "hate speech" and no, the US in fact has laws AGAINST this very thing, its called the first amendment. Though the ADL and other Jewish lobby groups have been fighting against that for some time now.
 

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I'm French , even their terrorist zionist organisations like LDJ and Betar are protected by our government. Those terrorists are trained in France; they are free to make propaganda, they profit about double nationality and go to Palestine to support their zionist terrorism in order to massacre innocents. All this because our government is under the occupation of zionists. French people are starting to wake up.
 
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The fk? Yea Israel is not perfect, but they are just defending against Terrorists..
Hamas is the problem.Not the palestinian people or Israel.
 

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The fk? Yea Israel is not perfect, but they are just defending against Terrorists..
Hamas is the problem.Not the palestinian people or Israel.


lol good one.
 

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The fk? Yea Israel is not perfect, but they are just defending against Terrorists..
Hamas is the problem.Not the palestinian people or Israel.

The typical media bullshit.
OP: That's absolutely bullshit. Israel is above the law nd' everyone knows that. They kill Palestinians daily and no one bats an eye.
Bastards.
 

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To the guys above...

You realize Hamas shots their rockets from hospitals,schools just to wait for Israels response and get sympathy because "israel killed innocent humans..
What should Israel do? If Israel wouldnt have the Iron dome, there would be many dead people too...

Hamas attacks, Israel defends..

If someone attacked you with a knife and you had a gun, wouldnt you use it?
 

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To the guys above...

You realize Hamas shots their rockets from hospitals,schools just to wait for Israels response and get sympathy because "israel killed innocent humans..
What should Israel do? If Israel wouldnt have the Iron dome, there would be many dead people too...

Hamas attacks, Israel defends..

If someone attacked you with a knife and you had a gun, wouldnt you use it?

That's what CNN and Fox News wants you to believe. Look at the other side of the story.
 

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The Talmud declared war to the word since 2000 years for world domination and their Messiah.
They subvert all the nations to enslave them for Israel.It's already done for Europe and USA, now they aim the muslim nations. Russia already got rid of it at the end of communism.
 

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That's what CNN and Fox News wants you to believe. Look at the other side of the story.

You mean... this side?

[video=youtube;zjXifsACiHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXifsACiHA[/video]
 

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You mean... this side?

[video=youtube;zjXifsACiHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXifsACiHA[/video]

I don't side with either Hamas or Fatih. I'm just on humanity's side. Even Muslims haters see that what Israel's doing is above the law and is considered a clear violation to the Geneva Initiative, and Oslo accords.

Plus, I can bring tons of videos of Jews and Israelis exposing what there country's doing; real face.

Keep loving who call you servants. Yes, that's what the Israelis and Zions say about America's citizens and soldiers.
 
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I don't side with either Hamas or Fatih. I'm just on humanity's side.

That is perhaps the most foolish statement anyone can ever make.

You are on the side of humanity?

Which side?

The side who wants Ukraine to be independent? The side that wants Kosovo to be independent? The side that wishes for America to have single-payer?

Humanity is not one single thing. Nearly every issue we quarrel over is an issue created by humanity. It is not as if these issues are doing something to humanity.

Even Muslims haters see that what Israel's doing is above the law and is considered a clear violation to the Geneva Initiative, and Oslo accords.

What are they doing?

Honestly, I think Israel is weak and delusional. They believe there is a way to get along with Palestine. While I do regret that there are people who have been lied to and deceived by Palestine... but Israel should simply drive them all into the sea.

Plus, I can bring tons of videos of Jews and Israelis exposing what there country's doing; real face.

Again - what are they doing?

Keep loving who calls you servants. Yes, that's what the Israelis and Zions say about America's citizens and soldiers.

They can think what they want to think. Even if they do believe they are superior - they do not cut my head off.

Also, you should actually listen to what Mr. Shoebat has to say, rather than plugging your ears and screaming even louder.
 

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You mean... this side?

[video=youtube;zjXifsACiHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXifsACiHA[/video]

really? REALLLY?

Israel was the one that took the palestinian land by force from palestinian and slowly by time they taking more portions of the palestinian lands because it is considered there holy land and wanna claim it for themselves.

In the last war that lasted couple of weeks to month, Israel ****ing killed more than 2000+ human in palestine and injured 5000+ people, and what did israel lose? what about 10-20 solider were killed? because people wanted to protect there homes and family. you cant compare the two loses, even THE UN NATION aint doing shit to israel when they clearly used forbidden weapons and chemical weapon on the people, but none said jack shit about it and ignored it. If another country did what israel did then the world wide would wipe it out of the planet but israel seems to be an exception and they can kill innocent people in A DAILY BASES!!

and fck off with that BS video, media use the rocket as in term of terrorist attack against israel. So if you attack me and kill thousand of people and i defended myself then i am a terrorist? that is the media BS and the more bs your kind say.

For fcks sake, an innocent child with his family, the israel army was killing everyone in the area and forcing people to leave it, and out of protection that kid threw a rock at an israel tank. So what israel do? simply blow the kid and his house and killing all his families.

EVEN MORE!!! Israel solider take young children from there parents to jails and shit and god knows what they doing to them inside.

if anything, israel should be the one that need to gtfo from palestine lands because it was never their to begin with and it will never be, and whatever they do, they will never defeat palestine. Palestine has been holding there own using rocks and couple of guns and rockets for how long now? while israel been using some forbidden weapons and missels and tanks and all that shit.

Palestine will be free one day, mark my words.
 

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There was never a Palestinan State.

The land we're talking about was a british colony, where jews and muslims lived together.
After ww2 they gave One part to the jews the other to the muslims.
Muslims hate jews so a few islamic states attacked Israel, but Israel won and survived.

Israel just wants to exist and the Hamas wants to kill all jews.
 

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Half of the world is blind to see Israel's genocide towards Palestine. Global Speech will rat them to what reality is.
 

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I don't side with either Hamas or Fatih. I'm just on humanity's side. Even Muslims haters see that what Israel's doing is above the law and is considered a clear violation to the Geneva Initiative, and Oslo accords.

Plus, I can bring tons of videos of Jews and Israelis exposing what there country's doing; real face.

Keep loving who call you servants. Yes, that's what the Israelis and Zions say about America's citizens and soldiers.

Lol. I'm an Israeli American with dual citizenship (resident of U.S.), and I know quite a lot of Israelis. I have family that still lives in Israel, and many of them are originally from the U.S. They come back to visit and they love the U.S. and the people here. My family is also part of (head of our region) an organization that brings disabled Israeli veterans to the U.S. for a few weeks. I've never met a single Israeli veteran in the 13 years I've been part of this group who felt that way about the U.S. They are all very grateful, good people. As people who have been soldiers, they very much respect U.S. soldiers as well. This is the general concensus of the population, as all Israelis, regardless of gender, are drafted into the IDF (except for special cases.) We have family friends there whose children were killed in terrorist attacks in Israel. When my school friends visited Israel this summer, they had to hide in bomb shelters in the middle of the night because of attacks.

Also, do you know the history of the wars that have been going on in the region? Hamas has been using civilians as human shields. Hamas hides weapons in schools and hospitals, and you think Israel should let them carry on with attacks and sending rockets, when their families are dying? The IDF warns these areas with hidden Hamas weapon to evacuate before sending rockets, but Hamas tells the civilians not to leave. They use human shields to antagonize Israel.
 

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Why am i even Talking about this on an anime forum..
 
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