Confirmed: Kishi planned this ending for 8 years!

[southern sun]

Date director tweeted that the ending(#chap 699?) was about the same as what kish told them 8 yrs ago.

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[V h o]

Even the pairings were planned along time ago. IRC Karui hinted on wanting to be with someone big/tall. Lol

 

[Han 5 tails]

my God he need 8 years to this sh1tty ending I wonder what sh1t he would bring if he had 2 months plan

 

[SageUzumaaki]

No way he planned for Saskue to go Bi-polar at the end, one minute saving the world, next minute the world is mine, then good again.........

 

[UCE]

seems cool.

 

[Ryu Kishi]

So narusaku was never going to happen naruskau fans got trolled

 

[Erebus]

Not to sound like an a$$hole or anything, but you'd think that after eight years of manipulating the story a better ending would have come out

 

[Young Vongola]

No way he planned for Saskue to go Bi-polar at the end, one minute saving the world, next minute the world is mine, then good again.........

He had the ending planned, but didn't plan everything in between. That ending in 699 was perfect, but the things that happened before then made it feel rushed and a little forced. If Kishi took more time it would have been a lot better.

 

[1Told]

some people are gonna be hurt again...

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[PaperHERO]

Title contradicts with post. Your title indicates that it took kishi 8 years to develop the ending, but post says it was already decided 8 years ago.

 

[Stephanos]

"What writer doesn’t love a good twist? My job is to set up interesting characters and see where they lead me. The byproduct of having well-drawn characters is they may surprise you. But I know something they don't know - the ending. How I get there doesn't matter as long as everybody plays their part." - Metatron

That's how it all works.

 

[Joker]

He had eight years and still he came up with shit, hot damn.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Not to sound like an a$$hole or anything, but you'd think that after eight years of manipulating the story a better ending would have come out

Agreed .

 

[Jinrou]

He had the ending planned, but didn't plan everything in between. That ending in 699 was perfect, but the things that happened before then made it feel rushed and a little forced. If Kishi took more time it would have been a lot better.

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[Hyuga Prodigy]

So kishi literally planned to wrap up everyone to sweep under the rug???

 

[V h o]

"What writer doesn’t love a good twist? My job is to set up interesting characters and see where they lead me. The byproduct of having well-drawn characters is they may surprise you. But I know something they don't know - the ending. How I get there doesn't matter as long as everybody plays their part." - Metatron

That's how it all works.

Gotta love that supernatural reference

 

[Byron123]

No way he planned for Saskue to go Bi-polar at the end, one minute saving the world, next minute the world is mine, then good again.........

This is a misconception based on a lack of understanding Sasuke's personality

Well the thing is that Sasuke was never willing to listen to Naruto and he was always running away from him. However, him running away from Naruto can also mean that he was afraid of getting persuaded by him and because of that, by running away, he was hoping to stay unaffected, that alone proves he doesn't have such a hard resolve. However, in their latest battle he couldn't help it and so he passed a great deal of time with Naruto whether he liked it or not. Even if he was planning his revolution all along, at some moments it was visible that he was happy for fighting along with Naruto. Just look at him:

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No matter what he was saying his actions were speaking otherwise.

As for Naruto not offering any plan in return I would agree to some extent but at the same time what he suggests is so ideal that you can't simply put in few words. Sasuke's plan was to become a second Lelouch, preety straightforward but Naruto's answer was too vague. What does it mean mutual understanding and solidarity? For Naruto who wanted to achieve a solution like that is simply too complicated to be explained because it can be achieved in many ways but all of them cannot be explained in a manga. For Naruto to start talk about politics and such would be completely out of character.

I must say that I will be also disappointed if he doesn't even try to specify it a bit.


So to answer your questions:

1) No it is believable because I said Sasuke had the potential to be persuaded easily but he simply needed a little push. The fact is that Sasuke has changed his aims many times and that alone proves that Sasuke does not stick to one and only idea. He's willing to change as long as he thinks that what he does is right, right according to him.


2) Sasuke is an antagonist. As I said above he acts based on his sense of righteousness without caring about him being selfish or selfless. His time during the war proved that he didn't simply become a sweet angel but he simply cooperated with Naruto as means to achieve his own goal which at that point was to become the ruler of the world, Lelocuh style. (With what power he would achieve that prior to his meeting with Hagoromo god knows XD ). So no, he was never the villain, just many people tend to look at things as black and white without taking a deeper insight at one's personality and motives, the latter are what make one a "villain". You can do bad things even though you have a good intent, same happened here.


3) HELL NO! If you examine carefully Sasuke, you will realize a trademark of his personality: his opinion must always correct. Sasuke passed all his life trying to correct what he thought as mistakes. He first killed Itachi to revenge his clan and thus bringing balance where he thought he needed, he killed Danzo for his mistake to kill Itachi, he fought against Obito, Madara and Kaguya to also correct what he deemed as wrong. In a sense you could call that "Sasuke's world order". Just like in these cases, he decided to rule the world to correct hokages' and everyone's else mistakes based on the knowledge he had aqcuired from his personal life. If Sasuke had taken part in this war with the intent of going back to Konoha, it would completely contradict his actions, since Sasuke more that anything wants to pass judgement to those who make mistakes. He did not consider as the cause of that mistake neither Obito nor Madara nor Kaguya but the entire world and so if he wanted to correct the situation he would have to take control of the world.


Hope that helped

 

[Ja maya]

"What writer doesn’t love a good twist? My job is to set up interesting characters and see where they lead me. The byproduct of having well-drawn characters is they may surprise you. But I know something they don't know - the ending. How I get there doesn't matter as long as everybody plays their part." - Metatron

That's how it all works.

^ This here is truth.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

He had the ending planned, but didn't plan everything in between. That ending in 699 was perfect, but the things that happened before then made it feel rushed and a little forced. If Kishi took more time it would have been a lot better.

It not just the things before that but he pretty much just uses 1-3 pages for things that should get a full chapter like IT release and the funeral. And flat skips things like Kakashi being given the Hokage title and closure to several characters.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

well yea duh.... if he hadnt planned it beforehand his manga would such at every point.