Evening Elephant Databook entry ("Unstoppable Speed")

[Kamui Sama]

so rock lee throwing a kunai can intercept Gai's top speed? seems legit Lol

 

[Gold Lightning]

so rock lee throwing a kunai can intercept Gai's top speed? seems legit Lol

Hence why he did it in 6th gate and not in base. Why would you need gates to throw a kunai Lol

 

[Haizaki]

Manga shows it's striking speed in that last post I showed even when he's not moving (Rock Lee bit). Nothing at all implies that his last punch was him at top speed when he kicked up the air meaning his momentum reduced and aimed for a direct punch.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Hence why he did it in 6th gate and not in base. Why would you need gates to throw a kunai Lol

Lee didn't initially go into gates to throw the kunai he wanted to jump in and help Gai. If Gai was going top speed that would also mean Gaara's sand can keep up with his top speed which clearly isn't true.

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[Haizaki]

Lol the mere fact that Gaara's sand was keeping up just shits on any ridiculous logic suggesting that it was top speed. How silly.

 

[paratise]

so rock lee throwing a kunai can intercept Gai's top speed? seems legit Lol

Yes that't why Gai needed to go 8th gate while they could chunk objects in lower gates and higher speed

 

[Haizaki]

Extremely disgusting. The Minato fans are really desperate.

 

[Savage Predator]

If you're trying to say the Gai is slower than Minato, then why was gai able to blitz Madara during the entire match, while minato got owned?

 

[Bogard]

Really disguting. The Gai fanboys are really desperate Lol

If you're trying to say the Gai is slower than Minato, then why was gai able to blitz Madara during the entire match, while minato got owned?

8 gated Gai has faster striking speed than Minato, but Minato has better reflexive speed

 

[Gold Lightning]

Yikes

- The databook says unstoppable speed
- Says it increases in speed for each hit
- guy says he'll do it continuously without leaving an opening
- databook says by raising the "gear"/speed will increase hitting power.

How can he say he'll attack next time without leaving an opening. Yet people are saying his final hit he was moving the slowest yet his punch somehow has more power than the rest wtf. If you say you're attacking continuously without leaving an opening, then why is the 5th and final step the exception? Literally it's confirmed in guys words "without an opening", therefore the last hit should've had no oppenings either. Just because kishi didn't draw the final hit with the others doesn't mean it's slower, it just means he drew the first 4 together, instead of 1 panel for each and then showed the final it in it's own panel -_-

Lord I need a break. These people U_U

 

[tristan de boiz]

He stopped. He didnt stop. What ever makes you guys sleep at night. Cant deny mangaphax.

 

[Haizaki]

These moron are reaching it. It talks about his hitting speed increasing and I showed a scan of Lee saying so when he wasn't moving Implying that the main point here is its striking speed. Yet the desperation is on another level as this guy couldn't even counter my post. One shot.

- Raising the Gear would increasing its hitting power but then again we have no evidence that if the last punch against Madara were to be indirect, it would be stronger than the previous ones since it was a direct punch, since his momentum reduced after kicking the air once more

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. Hence your claim is flawed since the direct punches are naturally stronger than the indirect ones...Since his Momentum was reduced after kicking up the air meaning no gear was raised. I hope you guys understand English so don't disgrace yourself.

- Gaara's sand caught up while he was traveling. Something you people can't address till date.

Now you explain this:

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"He stopped it Midway?" Notice how he says this when Gai isn't moving but rather striking

Notice how Gai refers to it being continuos next time with openings despite not moving.

Bogard you're one I can no longer take seriously after my debate against you. You believe Base Gai= 8G Gai in terms of reactions..Not even a Joke to be told in the circus. You have no idea on the difference between Loopy fist and strong fist, thinks Kakashi and 6G Gai are equal in terms of reactions. Many more that till date I can't believe. Your knowledge on Gai is horrific.

 

[Bogard]

I didn't say Base Gai was equal to 8 gated Gai's reactions as a confirmed fact. I said it's highly likely and already gave my reasons why. I added however that considering the first and second gate is used to open the gates restraining the brain, it can increase the synapse allowing to react faster, but to me other than these 2 gates, i don't see why other gates will upgrade reflexes. It's all about increase in offensive power and speed. Now you disagree with me? Can't do anything about that. You disagree with my Sharingan Kakashi being comparable in reflexes to 6 gated Gai despite showing manga scan supporting? Can't do anything about that. You can't take me seriously because i think otherwise? Can't do anything about that as well. My thoughts are supported by the manga and i gave multiple pictures to explain my points, so i honestly couldn't care less at this point

 

[Apêx1]

The more speed and momentum, the more powerful the punch will be.

The fact that guy said he'd do it without leaving. Any openings makes any argument invalid.

It uses the words hitting because that's the main part of the attack. But the faster one moves the stronger it is.

Still doesn't explain hitting out with unstoppable speed, it's strictly talking about striking speed so my point stands. And no, any openings can be interpreted in different ways, only because you could deduce one biased scenario doesn't mean another cannot deduce scenario's differing to yours yet viable.

 

[The Sach]

Look Kishi has created new unstoppable attack, which is broken technique.

 

[Gold Lightning]

You keep going on about kicking up the air as if Gai didn't do that in all the previous hits. Kishi drew all the previous 4 hits together because what's the point of drawing them 1 panel at a time. He was showing is what the attack generally is supposed to look like and that's elephant feet. If guy wasn't kicking the air before then how was he continuously attacking Madara in the air? Kishi isn't going to draw it all out, that's a waste of time and unnecessary.

Once again I don't need to read your speculative explanations because Guys words triumph over everything you can say. "NEXT TIME ILL DO IT CONTINUOUSLY WITHOUT LEAVING OPENINGS". There, manga fact, no argument needed. In other words guy basically said "I'll attack him so fast that he won't have time to react". That's all. Yet you're saying he slowed down on the last hit Lol, no. Kishi had to draw the final hit in a way that the reader could properly see, that's why you assume it looks slowed down, but it's not.

Whatever you say, I'm just gonna agree to disagree. Manga and databook have all the evidence I need. Your opinion isn't going to change my view on manga fact.

 

[Haizaki]

I didn't say Base Gai was equal to 8 gated Gai's reactions as a confirmed fact. I said it's highly likely and already gave my reasons why. I added however that considering the first and second gate is used to open the gates restraining the brain, it can increase the synapse allowing to react faster, but to me other than these 2 gates, i don't see why other gates will upgrade reflexes. It's all about increase in offensive power and speed. Now you disagree with me? Can't do anything about that. You disagree with my Sharingan Kakashi being comparable in reflexes to 6 gated Gai despite showing manga scan supporting? Can't do anything about that. You can't take me seriously because i think otherwise? Can't do anything about that as well. My thoughts are supported by the manga and i gave multiple pictures to explain my points, so i honestly couldn't care less at this point

You couldn't care less because you're the type that would never admit to something even though he's wrong. Why? You argued till death with me that Gai's speed increases but the Gates never said anything about reflexes.

Managa never supported the bold especially when you said they're equal. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you try to say others deny Mnaga fact despite the opinion being flawed is completely wrong. I showed you the difference between Base Gai's and 6G Gai's reactions and yet you still disagreed. Honestly you're good but when it gets to a scenario where you're clearly wrong, just admit to it and then we all move on.

 

[Bogard]

You couldn't care less because you're the type that would never admit to something even though he's wrong. Why? You argued till death with me that Gai's speed increases but the Gates never said anything about reflexes.

Managa never supported the bold especially when you said they're equal. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you try to say others deny Mnaga fact despite the opinion being flawed is completely wrong. I showed you the difference between Base Gai's and 6G Gai's reactions and yet you still disagreed. Honestly you're good but when it gets to a scenario where you're clearly wrong, just admit to it and then we all move on.

I admitted i was wrong about Gai's unorthodox taijutsu style. How did i never admit i was wrong? The thing is i usually engage debates when i'm 100% sure i'm right(unless when i'm in trolling mode, that's it). Because of this, yes it happens rarely that i admit defeat exactly because i'm 100% sure i'm right. However, it can happen that some manga sequences escaped my knowledge or that i simply overlooked something and in these times i admit i was wrong(the Gai example is proof of that). I admitted Gai had faster striking speed. What i disagree with is that he has better reflexes and already gave the reasons why countless time

The Kisame-Gai-6gated Gai sequence wasn't really a difference in reflexes at all. In the Gai vs Kisame, Gai couldn't even move to be able to react unlike 6 gated Gai, which made it a bad example

 

[Haizaki]

You keep going on about kicking up the air as if Gai didn't do that in all the previous hits. Kishi drew all the previous 4 hits together because what's the point of drawing them 1 panel at a time. He was showing is what the attack generally is supposed to look like and that's elephant feet. If guy wasn't kicking the air before then how was he continuously attacking Madara in the air? Kishi isn't going to draw it all out, that's a waste of time and unnecessary.

Once again I don't need to read your speculative explanations because Guys words triumph over everything you can say. "NEXT TIME ILL DO IT CONTINUOUSLY WITHOUT LEAVING OPENINGS". There, manga fact, no argument needed. In other words guy basically said "I'll attack him so fast that he won't have time to react". That's all. Yet you're saying he slowed down on the last hit Lol, no. Kishi had to draw the final hit in a way that the reader could properly see, that's why you assume it looks slowed down, but it's not.

Whatever you say, I'm just gonna agree to disagree. Manga and databook have all the evidence I need. Your opinion isn't going to change my view on manga fact.

Lol what a horrible reply and the bold laughs at you. Do you know what it means to kick up the air? Dear Lord this guy said Gai did that in all his hits. Read the Manga and don't make a fool out of yourself..He was moving in a circular pattern despite being on the same length of the air

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. The punches came from the same length of the air but from different directions

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. If he was kicking up the air, would that be happening Lol ? Won't they be coming from above? This shows you're very wrong..Meanwhile in the bottom left of this scan, he kicks up the air

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Hey Kishi, I heard you did the upper bold..This guy really asked me how he was continuously running in mid air Lol?

The continuous part as well is silly...Can't explain why Gai uses indirect punches and resorts to a direct one when he saw an opening while Madara was immobilized. He didn't have to slow down in his last hit, he was traveling just like we saw this is supposedly Sasuke's full speed Lol

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and Gaara's sand caught up to 8G Gai's full speed. Answer that which you've been avoiding and stop this ignorance.

Agree to disagree..I'm not bothered since you have flawed facts on your side.

 

[Haizaki]

I admitted i was wrong about Gai's unorthodox taijutsu style. How did i never admit i was wrong? The thing is i usually engage debates when i'm 100% sure i'm right(unless when i'm in trolling mode, that's it). Because of this, yes it happens rarely that i admit defeat exactly because i'm 100% sure i'm right. However, it can happen that some manga sequences escaped my knowledge or that i simply overlooked something and in these times i admit i was wrong(the Gai example is proof of that). I admitted Gai had faster striking speed. What i disagree with is that he has better reflexes and already gave the reasons why countless time

The Kisame-Gai-6gated Gai sequence wasn't really a difference in reflexes at all. In the Gai vs Kisame, Gai couldn't even move to be able to react unlike 6 gated Gai, which made it a bad example

Ok I guess we will forever Agree to Disagree on this particular topic Lol