Was Tobi able to Capture all Tail Beast by himself?

[Darkdro]

So you are saying he didn't need the akatsuki? so he wasted his time on the akatsuki for no reason?

Yup. That what I put In the starting of the thread. :/

 

[-immortal-]

Taillest beast ( Bijuus ) yes.
However Jinchuriki's not considering they were to stromg At the time.
That's why he formed the Akatsuki

 

[xxSAGExx]

For Him to find out, who are the Jins won't even take 2 Weeks. He can just go to the Kage of each village. Send him to Kamui world as he sleeps. ( That the answer to everything) then Obito will force the Kage to tell him, who and where are the Jins, with their personal information like Abilities, Experience Ect, Ect. If the Kage refuse, then Obito will simply Kamui out and come back in a couple of days to ask for the same Thing

So what were you saying now?

So now he magically know where the Kage's stay? They don't sleep in their offices and plus ninjas of such caliber would sense the presence and wake up. Mei use her boiling mist to keep Obito back so it doesn't melt him and there's sensory types such Ao who can use his Byakugan. Gaara's sand protects him even without Gaara having to do anything plus Gaara was the only one to notice Deidara when he was infiltrating Suna. A has Shi as a sensory type who is a body guard of his and he's too fast for Obito to keep track of. Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages as an old man and he shown his skills. Oonoki has more chance being caught than the others due to his age.

 

[Angelic.]

better question: could old madara do it? :]

it only became a problem for the kage after sasuke acted. theyre slow and dumb.
akatsuki collected money, power, and intel. obito took risks when he was younger. i bet he learned from it.

why didnt he think about nagato getting in his way bc he wanted to be the jin?

 

[Darkdro]

So now he magically know where the Kage's stay? They don't sleep in their offices and plus ninjas of such caliber would sense the presence and wake up. Mei use her boiling mist to keep Obito back so it doesn't melt him and there's sensory types such Ao who can use his Byakugan. Gaara's sand protects him even without Gaara having to do anything plus Gaara was the only one to notice Deidara when he was infiltrating Suna. A has Shi as a sensory type who is a body guard of his and he's too fast for Obito to keep track of. Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages as an old man and he shown his skills. Oonoki has more chance being caught than the others due to his age.

Easy, find out where they sleep. By waiting outside the Kage building, Then Watching the Kage as they leave. Then Follow him around until he hit the hay there. Or he can just kidnapped many child's or Kage's love ones & Trap them in Kamui world for ransoms. ( the ransoms will be information and proof)

Hiruzen - Why would he fight Hiruzen? He knows who's the 9 tails and so does a lot of people. Either way, He will just kidnapped His Grandson. Or what I listed up.

Gaara - will get stomp by Obito, Then Obito Will Kamui Gaara then it GG. Or Kidnapping, as I stated above

Mei - Kamui under ground so Ao won't see it Coming, Them Kamui Mei. Or what I stated above

 

[Darkdro]

better question: could old madara do it? :]

it only became a problem for the kage after sasuke acted. theyre slow and dumb.
akatsuki collected money, power, and intel. obito took risks when he was younger. i bet he learned from it.

No he couldn't. He can't leave the Geto Mazo.

 

[10th]

Oh absolutely he could, anyone who says otherwise is denying mangafacts and logic. Now if you had asked would it be better and more convenient for Obito to have collected the bijuu by himself then the answer is a no as my friend VariaBossX explained below.

Seeing what he did to yagura, of course he's able to catch a jinchuuriki.

A perfect one at that too, he had him in his control for years at age 14.

Even the full kyuubi submitted to his power easily

He didn't go after them because the bijuu is interfering with military might.

In other words...

It's ms Obito vs 9 bijuus and 5 great nation with the waterfall.

He'd get r@ped

 

[xxSAGExx]

Easy, find out where they sleep. By waiting outside the Kage building, Then Watching the Kage as they leave. Then Follow him around until he hit the hay there. Or he can just kidnapped many child's or Kage's love ones & Trap them in Kamui world for ransoms. ( the ransoms will be information and proof)

Hiruzen - Why would he fight Hiruzen? He knows who's the 9 tails and so does a lot of people. Either way, He will just kidnapped His Grandson. Or what I listed up.

Gaara - will get stomp by Obito, Then Obito Will Kamui Gaara then it GG. Or Kidnapping, as I stated above

Mei - Kamui under ground so Ao won't see it Coming, Them Kamui Mei. Or what I stated above

What's to say Obito wouldn't be spotted as he waited? Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai all sensed bad vibes from Itachi and Kisame so what's stopping other Jounins from sensing Obito let alone actual sensors in the village. The Jinchuuriki is worth more than that as they are the ultimate chakra weapons and Obito knows that.

Actually Obito didn't know that, he left Konoha before Naruto was made the Jinchuuriki and Hiruzen forbade anyone from talking about who the Jinchuuriki was. None of the kids knew about the Jinchuuriki and Obito wouldn't know who knows plus Obito needs to seal the Bijuu's in order starting with the 1 tails.

You wish, Obito isn't beating Gaara. He can't even grab Gaara since the sand will react to any threat plus Gaara can fly high out of Obito's reach and still Attack him. If Gaara constant attacks Obito and force him to stay intangible then he'll reach his limit at 5 minutes and be open for sand coffin on his arms just like Gaara did to Lee's legs.

Ao would still see Obito's chakra under the ground so no that wouldn't work. Byakugan sees chakra, Hinata was able to see Obito's chakra when Shino's bugs covered him. Depending on where they are, Mei can spit lava or acid around them on the floor. Plus she can use earth jutsus to reveal where Obito is, so can Hiruzen who also uses earth jutsus. Konoha have many sensory types such as Kiba clan, Ino clan, Shino clan, and Hyuuga clan.

 

[VongolaX]

Oh absolutely he could, anyone who says otherwise is denying mangafacts and logic. Now if you had asked would it be better and more convenient for Obito to have collected the bijuu by himself then the answer is a no as my friend VariaBossX explained below.

Thank you kind sir

 

[10th]

Thank you kind sir

l ol np you're right after all.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Yes, he was.... :|

The sanbi was roaming free after yagura's demise.

Obito off panelled yagura, even Ao said he saw a genjustu around Yagura.

If Yagura dies then so does the Bijuu until it's revived but if Obito have perfect control then he would have Yagura still in his command right? Ao and the others wouldn't need to kill Yagura, only break the genjutsu by dispelling his chakra so how did he die? Ao was in his 30's if I remember right so he could of had the Byakugan as a teenager before Yagura had the Bijuu or before he was a prefect Jin.

Plus Obito never controlled another Jinchuuriki even when he was looking right in Naruto's and Bee's eyes more than once.

 

[Darkdro]

What's to say Obito wouldn't be spotted as he waited? Kakashi, Asuma, and Kurenai all sensed bad vibes from Itachi and Kisame so what's stopping other Jounins from sensing Obito let alone actual sensors in the village. The Jinchuuriki is worth more than that as they are the ultimate chakra weapons and Obito knows that.

Actually Obito didn't know that, he left Konoha before Naruto was made the Jinchuuriki and Hiruzen forbade anyone from talking about who the Jinchuuriki was. None of the kids knew about the Jinchuuriki and Obito wouldn't know who knows plus Obito needs to seal the Bijuu's in order starting with the 1 tails.

You wish, Obito isn't beating Gaara. He can't even grab Gaara since the sand will react to any threat plus Gaara can fly high out of Obito's reach and still Attack him. If Gaara constant attacks Obito and force him to stay intangible then he'll reach his limit at 5 minutes and be open for sand coffin on his arms just like Gaara did to Lee's legs.

Ao would still see Obito's chakra under the ground so no that wouldn't work. Byakugan sees chakra, Hinata was able to see Obito's chakra when Shino's bugs covered him. Depending on where they are, Mei can spit lava or acid around them on the floor. Plus she can use earth jutsus to reveal where Obito is, so can Hiruzen who also uses earth jutsus. Konoha have many sensory types such as Kiba clan, Ino clan, Shino clan, and Hyuuga clan.

Naruto and the most tail beast are not under sensor. Naruto wasn't, Killer bee, and many more if not all wasn't. During the Chunni exmas arc. They had the Garra and Naruto walking all over the place whit out nobody giving a ****. Obito could've easily captured both of them.

Garra can flying?? When he was a kid? Obito solo's him to Hard.


Ao Would See Obito? He didn't Even see him when Obito came to get Sasuke. It not like the Hyuuga clans have there Byakugan activated all the Time. It not like the Bugs are going to Tell the Shino clan that there a dude just walking. It not like Kiba Clan dogs, are going to smell Obito and know he going to Capture the Kage. It not like the Ino clans is going to recognize Obito. There all going to be doing other stuff. Because they don't expect Obito to Comeing.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Naruto and the most tail beast are not under sensor. Naruto wasn't, Killer bee, and many more if not all wasn't. During the Chunni exmas arc. They had the Garra and Naruto walking all over the place whit out nobody giving a ****. Obito could've easily captured both of them.

Garra can flying?? When he was a kid? Obito solo's him to Hard.


Ao Would See Obito? He didn't Even see him when Obito came to get Sasuke. It not like the Hyuuga clans have there Byakugan activated all the Time. It not like the Bugs are going to Tell the Shino clan that there a dude just walking. It not like Kiba Clan dogs, are going to smell Obito and know he going to Capture the Kage. It not like the Ino clans is going to recognize Obito. There all going to be doing other stuff. Because they don't expect Obito to Comeing.

And at what point did Obito find out Naruto was the Kyuubi Jinchuuriki? Itachi and Kisame waltz in the village after the Chunin exam but Itachi was captain of Anbu so him finding out about Naruto is easy to see but this is Obito alone. Obito wouldn't care to see who the 9 tail Jinchuuriki or at least not go after Naruto since he has to seal the Bijuu's in order from 1 to 9. So he will either first look to see who are the 9 Jinchuurikis or he'll hunt for them in order starting with the 1 tails.

It didn't even show Obito in part 1, for all you know he could but off growing his white Zetsus or who knows what? And what makes you think Hiruzen or even Tsunade didn't have security groups consisting of at least 2 people from the clans I mentioned to make sure no one infiltrated the village, especially after Orochimaru attacked the village. Also do we see the Anbus much in part 1? No, so for all you know there were Anbus keeping watch especially during the chunin exams since they knew Orochimaru was up to something. Oh and Hiruzen kept watch over Naruto with his crystal ball.

Didn't even see when Obito saved Sasuke? How is Ao suppose to see that when he wasn't even there! He left to chase Danzo before Obito got there

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. Obito's chakra is large so it's noticable to sensors and if the sensors are on security dealt then what makes you think they didn't memorize the chakra of Chunins and Jounins in Konoha? Who says the Hyuuga have to always have their Byakugan on or Kiba clan always using their heighten smell, or Shino's clan using their bugs? Members from those clans can be on security dealt who job it is to be on alert for any enemy or they can be in Anbu and be watching over the Hokage. Danzo have someone from Shino clan and from Ino clan.

Yes kid Gaara can fly, he uses his sand to fly @.@ do you not read the manga and see him flying the Kage's to the main battlefield? Oh and kid Gaara had Lee and himself flying above Kimimaru's bones

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. Again, it doesn't show Obito going after any Jinchuurikis until Shippuden when Deidara and Sasori went after Gaara. Itachi went to pay his respects to a deceased Hiruzen and threatened Danzo then played it off as them going after Naruto so Obito wouldn't go after the 9 tails until he had the other Bijuu's and he didn't have Akatsuki go after Gaara until Shippuden. They don't have to expect Obito, they have guards to stop any intruders which includes other villages as the Cloud village tried catching Kushina when she had Kurama and tried to capture Hinata as a kid.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Hell no, not at the same time

 

[VongolaX]

If Yagura dies then so does the Bijuu until it's revived but if Obito have perfect control then he would have Yagura still in his command right? Ao and the others wouldn't need to kill Yagura, only break the genjutsu by dispelling his chakra so how did he die? Ao was in his 30's if I remember right so he could of had the Byakugan as a teenager before Yagura had the Bijuu or before he was a prefect Jin.

Yes, Yagura died and and the Sanbi was revived afterwards... 0_o

Now why are you asking me?

Ao stated in the summit that he saw the 4th under a genjustu, even Mei.

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Now why didn't they stop it?

Because they couldn't do anything, the 4th would have them killed off like he did Kisame's teammates.

Plus Obito never controlled another Jinchuuriki even when he was looking right in Naruto's and Bee's eyes more than once.

He's controlling six bijuus at once, he can't put bee and naruto in a genjustu and control all those bijuus once.

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[xxSAGExx]

Yes, Yagura died and and the Sanbi was revived afterwards... 0_o

Now why are you asking me?

Ao stated in the summit that he saw the 4th under a genjustu, even Mei.

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Now why didn't they stop it?

Because they couldn't do anything, the 4th would have them killed off like he did Kisame's teammates.




He's controlling six bijuus at once, he can't put bee and naruto in a genjustu and control all those bijuus once.

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What I'm saying is, it doesn't say when or how Yagura died, he could have been sent free from Obito's genjutsu and lived for a couple more years before dying. Also it was Ao who saw through the genjutsu on Mizukage so who would the Mizukage have killed them? Ao has a Byakugan that can see the chakra network and was most likely a well trusted man of the village and just asking them to disrupt Yagura's chakra isn't a big deal so Yagura denying this would make himself look more suspicious.

And what happened after Obito sent the Bijuu's back inside the Gedo? He fought up close with Naruto, Gai, Bee, and Kakasho yet didn't do any genjutsu on them. Naruto was in his face the most of the 4 of them. Only explanation is Yagura wasn't a perfect Jin at that time since you can't just place both Jinchuuriki and Bijuu in a genjutsu like that in a fight, Sasuke couldn't go into where Naruto was with Kurama any other times but that first time after Naruto went there first.

 

[legarcon]

he just puts them under a genjutsu and doesnt even have to fight them

 

[Xāvî1]

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I expected more from you

i m lazy right now for more!

 

[Demonic.]

Obito's weak ass taking on the 5 great nations by himself when he admitted he didn't have the firepower to do so at the Kage Summit

Lol That wank though.

 

[VongolaX]

What I'm saying is, it doesn't say when or how Yagura died, he could have been sent free from Obito's genjutsu and lived for a couple more years before dying. Also it was Ao who saw through the genjutsu on Mizukage so who would the Mizukage have killed them? Ao has a Byakugan that can see the chakra network and was most likely a well trusted man of the village and just asking them to disrupt Yagura's chakra isn't a big deal so Yagura denying this would make himself look more suspicious.

If that were true, it would of happened.

But it didn't, because you are obviously wrong.

If people higher up in the ranks (kisame's superior) were getting slaughtered, Ao is no different.

The three tails ended up free away from the hidden mist when capture, so yagura was extracted.

When you get extracted...you die period.

And what happened after Obito sent the Bijuu's back inside the Gedo? He fought up close with Naruto, Gai, Bee, and Kakasho yet didn't do any genjutsu on them. Naruto was in his face the most of the 4 of them. Only explanation is Yagura wasn't a perfect Jin at that time since you can't just place both Jinchuuriki and Bijuu in a genjutsu like that in a fight, Sasuke couldn't go into where Naruto was with Kurama any other times but that first time after Naruto went there first.

This assumption is baseless:

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The manga stated that yagura was a perfect jinchuuriki, no and if or but's can say otherwise.

No kage can be jinchuuriki without having perfect control over it anyway, he'll be watched over or caged like all the other non perfect jinchuuriki.


After swallowing up the bijuus and taking in the tentacle with gin & kin, Obito used his eye power on the transformation of Gedo mazou.

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That's why he was restricted into using only kamui against four people.

It was upon the juubi's revival that he was able to use other techniques besides kamui.