[VS] Fusion Avatar Naruto vs 50 Rikudo PS Madaras

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Conditions:
- Naruto cannot use his TBBRS. Shadow Clones and RS variants are however allowed.
- These Madaras can use their swords and can fly.
- The Madaras are not Juubi Jins, but have Six Paths chakra PS similar to DMS Kakashi.

Intent: Kill
 
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Conditions:
- Naruto cannot use his TBB, RS and Rasengan variants. 5 Shadow Clones are however allowed.
- These Madaras can use their swords and can fly.
- The Madaras are not Juubi Jins, but have Six Paths chakra PS similar to DMS Kakashi.
- Basically pure CQC.

Intent: Kill
HA. Reduce it to ten or lower and Naruto still loses. This is why Edo Madara defeats EMS Madara(except he wouldn't be able to make fifty of them).
 

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HA. Reduce it to ten or lower and Naruto still loses. This is why Edo Madara defeats EMS Madara(except he wouldn't be able to make fifty of them).
How?
The Madaras curb stomp. This is essentially 50 Sasuke PS. Only a handful would be needed here.
Rikudo PS Madara each have the same amount of chakra DMS Kakashi has. Sasuke PS is superior to Madara's since he was given more amount and potent chakra from Hagoromo.
 

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Fusion Avatar gets stomped with the lowest difficulty possible. There is a large difference between the Kurama Avatar/Sasuke's PS and Kakashi's PS, due to the difference in Rikudo Chakra, but give Madara 50 Kakashi level PS's, and even this Fusion Avatar isn't going to stand a chance.
 

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Rikudo PS Madara each have the same amount of chakra DMS Kakashi has. Sasuke PS is superior to Madara's since he was given more amount and potent chakra from Hagoromo.
However Madaras PS was significnatly stronger then Sasukes Pre-Hagoromo. Either way, like KidGamer said, even 50 DMS Kakashi PS is far too much for......any character in the manga.

This opinion is incorrect.

Sasuke PS eats edo Madaras PS.
This is not just Edo Madaras PS.
 

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Naruto wins this. Rikkudo Kurama avatar=Rikkudo PS. Rikkudo Kurama avatars<<<<<bijuPS=Fusion avatar. Throw in clones, and Naruto takes this (even though I don't think he can use clones in this form)
 

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Naruto wins this. Rikkudo Kurama avatar>Rikkudo PS. Rikkudo Kurama avatars<<<<<bijuPS=Fusion avatar. Throw in clones, and Naruto takes this (even though I don't think he can use clones in this form)
Completely irrelevant when Naruto's firepower is restricted, and when we are talking about 50 of Kakashi's Rikudo Susanoo here.
 

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Completely irrelevant when Naruto's firepower is restricted, and when we are talking about 50 of Kakashi's Rikudo Susanoo here.

No, it means everything. Think about this very carefully KidGamer. The OP's basic condition is that it's all CQB. We are not dealing with kamui or anything, just rikkudo susanoo like Sasuke's. Sasuke's biju susanoo negged 4 of Naruto's Rikkudo Kurama Avatars in a mere 2-step process. Therefore, something like fusion avatar, which is basically equivalent to biju PS, has the same power difference. The OP just gave Naruto something we would have never given Naruto, shadow clones of he fusion avatar. Meaning, the numbers difference just got solod with one statement. Naruto can make several avatars, all vastly superior to these PS. Power+numbers enough to off set things like getting hit from behind=stomp for Naruto.
 

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No, it means everything. Think about this very carefully KidGamer. The OP's basic condition is that it's all CQB. We are not dealing with kamui or anything, just rikkudo susanoo like Sasuke's. Sasuke's biju susanoo negged 4 of Naruto's Rikkudo Kurama Avatars in a mere 2-step process. Therefore, something like fusion avatar, which is basically equivalent to biju PS, has the same power difference. The OP just gave Naruto something we would have never given Naruto, shadow clones of he fusion avatar. Meaning, the numbers difference just got solod with one statement. Naruto can make several avatars, all vastly superior to these PS. Power+numbers enough to off set things like getting hit from behind=stomp for Naruto.
Naruto has shown to make 4 Kurama Avatar clones at once, 3 of them are used to form the Fusion Avatar, which is equal to something that wrecked 4 things equal to one PS. Zero evidence he can make enough to overwhelm 50 Rikudo PS. OP only said Shadow Clones are allowed, doesn't change the fact that him being able to use more than 4 Kurama Avatar clones at once, and even then, him being able to make enough Kurama Avatar clones to form enough Fusion Avatars to defeat 50 Rikudo PS is baseless.
 

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Naruto has shown to make 4 Kurama Avatar clones at once, 3 of them are used to form the Fusion Avatar, which is equal to something that wrecked 4 things equal to one PS. Zero evidence he can make enough to overwhelm 50 Rikudo PS. OP only said Shadow Clones are allowed, doesn't change the fact that him being able to use more than 4 Kurama Avatar clones at once, and even then, him being able to make enough Kurama Avatar clones to form enough Fusion Avatars to defeat 50 Rikudo PS is baseless.


Kidgamer, this entire scenario is baseless! There aren't even 50 PS users in the manga, and Naruto wouldn't suddenly decide to not use his jutsus! Shadow clones are in the conditions, so I'm using them. This entire scenario is illogical anyway.
 

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Kidgamer, this entire scenario is baseless! There aren't even 50 PS users in the manga, and Naruto wouldn't suddenly decide to not use his jutsus! Shadow clones are in the conditions, so I'm using them. This entire scenario is illogical anyway.
Never said that he can't, you just have zero evidence that he can clone his best Avatar over 10 times, even though the most clones he made of his Kurama Avatar, was just 4. This scenario was set up so that 50 PS exist at once, the scenario never said that Naruto could use as many clones as he wanted, nor does this scenario having 50 PS users mean that Naruto can do whatever he wants.
 

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Never said that he can't, you just have zero evidence that he can clone his best Avatar over 10 times, even though the most clones he made of his Kurama Avatar, was just 4. This scenario was set up so that 50 PS exist at once, the scenario never said that Naruto could use as many clones as he wanted, nor does this scenario having 50 PS users mean that Naruto can do whatever he wants.


This scenario is set up so Naruto can used shadow clones while he has the fusion avatar up, so I take it that several fusion avatar clones are in the conditions. You're rationalizing the clones, but not the PS. Now, if shadow clones were not brought up in the OP, then I'd certainly would say Naruto looses.
 
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