[Discussion] Smoker vs Luffy

[Punk Hazard]

Hence i restricted Smoker's intangibility

And we're not giving him something he didn't show or even implied to possess

The fact that you have to remove Smoker's intangibility should give you your answer.

Smoker could take a Haki-infused blow from Hancock without any visible injury, I doubt Luffy can sufficiently damage him to take him out even with this no intangibility thing.

 

[Joker]

Oh, shit, didn't see the restrictions, aight.

 

[Bogard]

The fact that you have to remove Smoker's intangibility should give you your answer.

Intangibility isn't fair to measure the difference in combat ability, hence it was restricted

In haki**, Sure you can say he defeated Chinjao but he was far out of his prime and Luffy still defeated him mid-diff. Vergo could go full body CoA since Law was a child. I don't think he's that out of his prime either like Chinjao was. Luffy's is getting outclassed by Doflamingo, I doubt he won't be able to defeat his first mate. Vergo would defeat Luffy high-extreme diff.

Are you implying Law low diffs Luffy or something?

 

[Zorø]

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Luffy would just set Hancock on him U_U

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[Hexuze]

Intangibility isn't fair to measure the difference in combat ability, hence it was restricted
Are you implying Law low diffs Luffy or something?

Nope .

And we're not giving him something he didn't show or even implied to possess

Did I say I was giving him CoO feats. better than Luffy's?

 

[Savage Predator]

We haven't see Vergo's observation haki.






In haki**, Sure you can say he defeated Chinjao but he was far out of his prime and Luffy still defeated him mid-diff. Vergo could go full body CoA since Law was a child. I don't think he's that out of his prime either like Chinjao was. Luffy's is getting outclassed by Doflamingo, I doubt he won't be able to defeat his first mate. Vergo would defeat Luffy high-extreme diff.

If he had an ounce of observation haki he would have dodged law's final attack.

 

[Punk Hazard]

If he had an ounce of observation haki he would have dodged law's final attack.

Not if he has the lack of speed.

 

[Hexuze]

If he had an ounce of observation haki he would have dodged law's final attack.

Vergo heavily underestimated Law. We've seen how fast vergo was when Law tried getting his heart back. He did it pretty casually as well.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Vergo heavily underestimated Law. We've seen how fast vergo was when Law tried getting his heart back. He did it pretty casually as well.

Vergo's speed is amazing. He was able to move after the heart started teleporting, and arrive right as the teleporting ended.

 

[Savage Predator]

Vergo heavily underestimated Law. We've seen how fast vergo was when Law tried getting his heart back. He did it pretty casually as well.

you're just further proving my point. When vergo is that fast, with little haki he could have dodged law's attack.

Not if he has the lack of speed.

he's actually faster than law

 

[Hexuze]

you're just further proving my point. When vergo is that fast, with little haki he could have dodged law's attack.

I guess you've ignored the, "Vergo heavily underestimated Law" part.

 

[Punk Hazard]

you're just further proving my point. When vergo is that fast, with little haki he could have dodged law's attack.



he's actually faster than law

Seeing as how Law was able to intercept something than move 6 KM in two seconds, I highly doubt it.

 

[Bogard]

Nope .




Did I say I was giving him CoO feats. better than Luffy's?

Oh and what are you implying then when Law is stronger than Vergo?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oh and what are you implying then when Law is stronger than Vergo?

That Law is stronger than Luffy maybe? That's not really hard to fathom.

 

[Savage Predator]

I guess you've ignored the, "Vergo heavily underestimated Law" part.

going full body haki is underestimating him? Also, if true he was underestimating him, it doesn't stop him to not use observation haki, since he didn't hold off on using his final form.

 

[JackelLord]

Luffy wins scenario 4 only IMO.

 

[Savage Predator]

Seeing as how Law was able to intercept something than move 6 KM in two seconds, I highly doubt it.

vergo was matching teleporting type speed. He might not be faster, but he's most likely equal to law in speed.

 

[Bogard]

That Law is stronger than Luffy maybe? That's not really hard to fathom.

Stronger than Luffy is one thing(even if i disagree, it's not out of the realm of possibility), but stronger to the point of one-shoting him is another

 

[Punk Hazard]

Stronger than Luffy is one thing(even if i disagree, it's not out of the realm of possibility), but stronger to the point of one-shoting him is another

Well, Luffy is pretty stupid. And Law has abilities that you can't afford to let hit you even once unless you have enough Haki. Nothing suggests that Luffy's Haki is good enough. To be honest, all Law needs to do is hit Luffy with one Mez or Radio Knife or cut, and Luffy is ****ed.

 

[Bogard]

Well, Luffy is pretty stupid. And Law has abilities that you can't afford to let hit you even once unless you have enough Haki. Nothing suggests that Luffy's Haki is good enough. To be honest, all Law needs to do is hit Luffy with one Mez or Radio Knife or cut, and Luffy is ****ed.

Considering their portrayal, they should be close. In a serious fight with full knowledge on Law's abilities(basically in the situation where Vergo was), Law shouldn't win with anything less than high/extreme difficulty if he even can(i think Luffy is stronger). If you think otherwise, then you're delusional