Fourth Databook Confirms.... again

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Hiruzen solos.

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Viz Scan Orochimaru - "Knew and could perform all existing Konoha Jutsu"
Hiruzen knows all Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =


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Hidden Leaf Tech

Neutalizer technique, , Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion and all 8 Gates at will.
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Silent Killing
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough


Hiruzen (sarutobi clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique


Hiruzen w/ Enma
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang

Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap

Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique

Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy

Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades




VIZ PROOF.

"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84

Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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The final picture, you should place it somewhere at the beginning. Otherwise the last part of the message is Orochimaru mocking Hiruzen. I know what you were trying to do, but still.
 

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*Whistles and walks away*
I like Oro but that's said by Old Man Hiruzen. Everyone knows mai boi prime hiruzen merks.

OT: Ha! "At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama."
Once again Hiruzen is shown to be an excellent ninja.
 

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Data book disagrees.
Doubt it, FTG marks are different with the user such as Minato's and Tobirama's and their markings is made from their chakra so only they can teleport to that marking or teleport what that marking or their chakra touches. Minato could teleport the alliance by mixing his chakra with Naruto's as they gave the alliance more chakra which allowed Minato to FTG everyone out of the Barrier. Tobirama had to physically touch Minato to use Minato as a medium to teleport those with a Minato's chakra, he couldn't just do it.

Hiruzen can't just teleport to Minato's marking, Minato touched both Tobirama and Hiruzen to teleport them to his kunai's. Also, Hiruzen knowing all of Konoha jutsus could be that he just know of them; know how they work as a scientist could know how things work in their relative fields. He might know FTG well enough to be able to make his own version as Minato had but he didn't since there were plenty of times he could have used it but didn't so he only have knowledge on it.
 

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Doubt it, FTG marks are different with the user such as Minato's and Tobirama's and their markings is made from their chakra so only they can teleport to that marking or teleport what that marking or their chakra touches. Minato could teleport the alliance by mixing his chakra with Naruto's as they gave the alliance more chakra which allowed Minato to FTG everyone out of the Barrier. Tobirama had to physically touch Minato to use Minato as a medium to teleport those with a Minato's chakra, he couldn't just do it.

Hiruzen can't just teleport to Minato's marking, Minato touched both Tobirama and Hiruzen to teleport them to his kunai's. Also, Hiruzen knowing all of Konoha jutsus could be that he just know of them; know how they work as a scientist could know how things work in their relative fields. He might know FTG well enough to be able to make his own version as Minato had but he didn't since there were plenty of times he could have used it but didn't so he only have knowledge on it.
You maybe right about FTG, but you misinterpret the Databooks when it came to his knowledge in Leaf techniques. Not only does he have deep knowledge in all of the Leaf's jutsu but he also had the skill to use them at will. That's includes the Hiden techniques from the clans that belonged to the leaf. Minus the KKG and eye techniques.
 

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I honestly believe Hiruzen knows FTG, but his level is of skill is way below tobiramas and therefore doesn't use it in battle situations.

He probably taught minato to be honest.
Despite our sound differences, I agree. Rep +. Hiruzen probably felt that it didn't suit his style of fighting.
 
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I honestly believe Hiruzen knows FTG, but his level is of skill is way below tobiramas and therefore doesn't use it in battle situations.

He probably taught minato to be honest.
Level of skill with it, or level of skill in general?

"At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama."

With Tobirama dead, it does make sense that Minato could had learned it from Hiruzen, Tobirama's prized student.
 

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Level of skill with it, or level of skill in general?

"At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama."

With Tobirama dead, it does make sense that Minato could had learned it from Hiruzen, Tobirama's prized student.
So because he showed a greater talent, that means Hiruzen surpassed Tobirama in everything?

For example, Hiruzen doesn't surpass Tobirama in speed or water style or sensing. So there's no reason to believe Hiruzens skill with FTG was any good (and this is all just speculation, he may not even know it).
 

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So because he showed a greater talent, that means Hiruzen surpassed Tobirama in everything?

For example, Hiruzen doesn't surpass Tobirama in speed or water style or sensing. So there's no reason to believe Hiruzens skill with FTG was any good (and this is all just speculation, he may not even know it).
That's actually what I was asking, did you mean Hiruzen lacked Tobirama's skill with Flying Thunder God, or just lacked Tobirama's level of skill? I suppose I just got my answer, though. It's true that every character has their own combat style.
 
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