What was Kishi on when he made that ending?

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Nah, it was a decent ending. Kishi just had too many characters to focus on to make all fanbases happy. The view of the next generation was good.

He could have made 699 longer since it was the ending. He just skipped over or half assed many things.
 

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Naruto's character
Sakura's character
Sasuke's character

Random konoha 11 pairings
Konoha turning into New york
theme of manga destroyed
more plot holes than answers
etc.

All Naruto's Sasuke's and Sakura's development intact.

Timeskip/Technology boom

Theme still intact.
 

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lel go out more. You're still on this site debating a fictional couple? damn, that sucks. Haha.

Nah, I prefer the indoors, thanks.

There's nothing to debate, actually, It's over. But still .... It's funny seeing you act like this after all the BS you would spew time and time again in the pairing thread about NS parallels, forehead kissus, 600+ chaps of development, mainxmain, Confuzzeled Sakwa, Naruto not loving Hinata, shonen laws, Ebola Sasuke, nindo nonsense, and god knows what else.

Don't act like you didn't get involved in the pairing wars all of a sudden just because your side ended up losing.
 

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Naruto's character
Sakura's character
Sasuke's character
Random konoha 11 pairings
Konoha turning into New york
theme of manga destroyed
more plot holes than answers
etc.


Naruto's character was untouched, don't know what you're talking about outside of pairings.


Sasuke got a crap ton of character development. Seriously, I respected Sasuke after 699.


Sakura's character was trashed long before the ending. (her worrying about Sasuke's opinion during the Madara clash)


Some were hinted, others were definitely random ChojixKarui (I think Kishi just felt he had to give a girl to a character interested in romance, but ran out of girls)


These "ninjas" have had CPUs for a long time. A city doesn't destroy it. It's progression, which is actually what the manga's about. Keeping to a simple village is what would destroy the manga theme.
 

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All Naruto's Sasuke's and Sakura's development intact.

Timeskip/Technology boom

Theme still intact.

The underdog and ying/yang theme was destoryed. But that happened long before the ending.
 

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King is that you? :D
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Konoha turning into New york
theme of manga destroyed
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How did Team 7's development go downhill in that chapter?

The only random pairing there was Choji and Karui .

The various Manga themes were destroyed since forever already . The last chapter isn't to blame .
 

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Nah, I prefer the indoors, thanks.

There's nothing to debate, actually, It's over. But still .... It's funny seeing you act like this after all the BS you would spew time and time again in the pairing thread about NS parallels, forehead kissus, mainxmain, Confuzzeled Sakwa, Naruto not loving Hinata, shonen laws, Ebola Sasuke, nindo nonsense, and god knows what else.

Don't act like you didn't get involved in the pairing wars all of a sudden just because your side ended up losing.

Yea, i can see how you prefer the indoors, but I think it's time to move on and go outside for a change.

King is that you? :D
OT:He's been high since mid war arc.

Hey :)
 

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Naruto's character was untouched, don't know what you're talking about outside of pairings

Naruto's character is ruined because he couldn't get Sakwa-chanz to open up her legs for him despite him being a nice guy to her since 4ever, so he failed to surpass the previous generations [Obito, Jiraiya] in forcing a girl who doesn't love them to be with them. lel. He had to settle for Hinata who is rebound and now is a depressed and neglectful dad. k?

That's rude.

I actually like Sakura a little more now that her own fans turned on her.

lol it's so funny .
 
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The pairings were honestly something I wanted to keep open air at least. It would be better to see what became of the other characters like Taka, Oro, and especially Kabuto as well. But, oh well.
 

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Naruto's character is ruined because he couldn't get Sakwa-chanz to open up her legs for him despite him being a nice guy to her since 4ever, so he failed to surpass the previous generations [Obito, Jiraiya] in forcing a girl who doesn't love them to be with them. lel. He had to settle for Hinata who is rebound and now is a depressed and neglectful dad. k?



lol it's so funny .



One significant argument I hated about NaruSaku. "Kushina wanted Naruto to end up with someone like her." So NaruSaku fans were into incest?
 

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Sakura's character was trashed long before the ending. (her worrying about Sasuke's opinion during the Madara clash)

Don't forget her healing Sasuke in 699 before he even apologized and before she found out he wasn't trying to kill Naruto/Tsunade. lol
 

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The ending was pretty average, the asshurt mostly come from the shippers.
 

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One significant argument I hated about NaruSaku. "Kushina wanted Naruto to end up with someone like her." So NaruSaku fans were into incest?

The most pathetic thing about that argument is that it insults Kushina as a mother. What kind of mother would want her son to go after shallow similarities like "kinda sorta same hair colour and temper tantrums"? or to be with a wife who physically and mentally abuses him....... as if a mother would want such a thing, especially with Kushina, who hated her temper. Anyone with a brain would have known she meant in regards to someone who would love him as much as she did.

Then there's the fact Tsunade, Karui, Karin, and even Hinata can all be compared to Kushina. Even Naruto himself is like Kushina.
 

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My biggest gripe: Sasuke (of all people) only got one page... Wtf are you smoking, Kishi? I'm pretty sure his daughter was given more panel time than he himself was.
 

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pairings aside:

Naruto:
naruto neglecting his son even after growing up in loneliness. (his son even wrote shitty father on his hokage face)
doesn't smile anymore

Sasuke:
Sasuke's character was destroyed in chapter 699 when he did a 180 in literally 1 chapter.

Sakura:
need i say more?

Random konoha 11 pairing (except shikatema)
Choji x Karui?
Sai X Ino?
lee x tenten?

Konoha managed to grow from a tiny village to new york in like 10 years or so. lel

There's so much more wrong, but unfortunately, I do not have time to write an essay on it.
 

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pairings aside:

Naruto:
naruto neglecting his son even after growing up in loneliness. (his son even wrote shitty father on his hokage face)
doesn't smile anymore

Doesn’t it bother you that you are judging Naruto’s entire fatherhood because of one interaction?

Naruto perfectly understands what Bolt’s going through, Kishimoto couldn’t have made this clearer.
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Naruto doesn’t tell him “too bad you feel lonely, suck it up”
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He tells him that there will be times when he won’t have his father all to himself, something anybody with working parents has to face at some point. This is something Kishimoto has experienced himself.

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Sounds familiar?

And Bolt is not alone, he has a mother and a sister, he’s nowhere near the same position Naruto was when he was a child. He misses his father, like any child with a busy parent would do. This is completely normal. Naruto was made Hokage recently then he has to share his parent with the village in ways he didn’t have to before, so he’s acting out. Naruto doesn’t ignore this, he actually takes the time to talk to him about it (and is late for his meeting because of it) because he loves his son.

And note what Naruto's says

"With what I do now ".... doesn't that imply Naruto has just recently become hokage?

Which means this whole ‘absent father’ narrative you're perpetuating is trash.

If Naruto just became hokage (which that line suggests) that means Bolt’s craving for attention is new and only exists because he’s not used to his dad not being his 100% of the time.

That’s why Bolt is acting that way, he’s not use to his dad not being around 24/7 and now that Naruto is hokage Boruto is feeling lonely.

This, to me, shows that Naruto HAS always been around his son, but with him becoming hokage he suddenly has less time. If anything, Bolt’s actions show me that Naruto was always there for his son and now Boruto is having a culture shock. Doesn’t mean Naruto’s not there for his son, just means Bolt hasn’t gotten use to sharing his dad’s time with the entire community.

Sasuke:
Sasuke's character was destroyed in chapter 699 when he did a 180 in literally 1 chapter.

Looks like someone's a little lost. How many hints did Kishimoto drop throughout the entire series that Sasuke was suppressing and trying to destroy his bonds with team 7? Of course, you being an NS supporter, would always push that aside and ignore it. Don't complain just because your delusional views came to bite you in the ass now.

Some examples would be Sakura's confession, the VOTE [where he downright says it], Team 7 reunion [where he downright says it again], Vs Killer Bee, Kage Summit arc [where he says it again], When he protects Sakura from Juubi clones, When he saves Team 7 with his Susano'O, When he shows worry over Sakura and Kakashi when Kaguya takes them to the Lava world, protecting Naruto form Haku, worrying over Sakura when he hears her scream, protecting Naruto from many of Obito's and Kaguya's attacks, calming down after Sakura's hug, Catching Sakura and looking deeply into her eyes, Saving Sakura from Gaara,attempting to save Sakura from Kaguya before Kakashi did so.

Sakura:
need i say more?

No, we all know she's trash, NS or SS.
Random konoha 11 pairing (except shikatema)
Choji x Karui?
Sai X Ino?
lee x tenten?

Lee and Tenten was not confirmed, and Sai x Ino was foreshadowed somewhat, both in sai's introduction arc and in the IT world.... The only random pairing was Choji and Karui, and that was only done to have another "Cho" for the next gen InoShikaCho.
 
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How is that" troll hunter " group holding up. ......oh wait
 

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pairings aside:

Naruto:
naruto neglecting his son even after growing up in loneliness. (his son even wrote shitty father on his hokage face)
doesn't smile anymore

Sasuke:
Sasuke's character was destroyed in chapter 699 when he did a 180 in literally 1 chapter.

Sakura:
need i say more?

Random konoha 11 pairing (except shikatema)
Choji x Karui?
Sai X Ino?
lee x tenten?

Konoha managed to grow from a tiny village to new york in like 10 years or so. lel

There's so much more wrong, but unfortunately, I do not have time to write an essay on it.
1.-Naruto was the one who helped his son to write on his face(the kid was on Kakashi's face when Naruto caught him)
2.-Sasuke is has been changing his opinion since the dead of Itachi
3.-That hardly surprised anyone that is not a shipper.
 

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pairings aside:

Naruto:
naruto neglecting his son even after growing up in loneliness. (his son even wrote shitty father on his hokage face)
doesn't smile anymore

Sasuke:
Sasuke's character was destroyed in chapter 699 when he did a 180 in literally 1 chapter.

Sakura:
need i say more?

Random konoha 11 pairing (except shikatema)
Choji x Karui?
Sai X Ino?
lee x tenten?

Konoha managed to grow from a tiny village to new york in like 10 years or so. lel

There's so much more wrong, but unfortunately, I do not have time to write an essay on it.


The manga explained that Naruto was busy because of being hokage. Remember how Tsunade comically complained about her work? Apply that to having 2 kids. Naruto is obviously doing what he can for everyone, including his son. I take it you're ignoring him using one of his catch-phrases to inspire Bolt to keep him going?


Sasuke............. What, him not being an A-hole anymore is his character's destruction?
 
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