Now that we know a tidbit of the plot of The Last..what do you think?

[Anorien16]

If someone knows enough about a film to know they wouldn't like it they're not going to waste time watching it. Especially when they can just read a synopsis of it. Plus if the information about the film has been confirmed by the franchise's FB page then at that point it's not a rumor it's confirmed information.

Uhhh really? I might have missed it about the official info about the wedding and dresses and all ... links please.

 

[Legitimate]

If someone knows enough about a film to know they wouldn't like it they're not going to waste time watching it. Especially when they can just read a synopsis of it. Plus if the information about the film has been confirmed by the franchise's FB page then at that point it's not a rumor it's confirmed information.

Picture are not enough to know anything about the film, look at Ironman's MK etc.

Yeah, the wedding, you based it on pictures, meaning it's a rumor coming from you. Drawing conclusions and creating a summary by looking at the pictures.

Again, Pictures are not plot.

 

[salsalover64]

Not from Tonerei's view point, he is achieving what he wants, so why he would donning the color of sorrow? He is getting his desired thing.



Maybe just because she was the elder child?


He might also be aware that unlike during the surprise attack there would more people on alert, and people might actually stop her from going.



Yeah ... a Emo Goth Wedding dress apparently.



Information that has a valid basis ... those pictures were not officially released (Thus are with some mistakes) and was touted as rumors by the very site itself ..... If such is the standard of theories that would mean all the Aliens, UFO and Reptile Politicians are valid Theories.

Not to mention your so called theory does not explain how Magic Wedding Ceremony or Magic Reproduction will help in any kind of Antagonist Plan ..... as per shonen standards go, in every evil plan that requires kidnapping that person is usually the key to activating something that might rob them of their life .... which never requires marriage or reproduction in any remote way. Themes like marriage only comes in plots where there is bloodlines is to be obtained (I which case Hanabi and every other Hyuga women be targeted) or there is property inheritance involved (Dont think Tonerei is much interested in the Hyuga mansion).



Oh I like reading between the lines but trying to pass off as you said 'Theories' as 'facts' .... then we have a problem.



Oh really? Lets see again:



So we can see how you basically changed a 'word on the forum' into something definitive that is 'degradation of a series' ..... Now u are trying to cop out saying it is just a theory.



So the opinion that you are wrong in your theory to begin with is not a opinion? Right?



Mind the big 'IF'.

I'm guessing you missed the part where I said him having access to the byakugan is partially vital to his plan. Actually I explicitly stated numerous times..even now. That this was meant to be an opinion thread and if you read that then you'd know that was my way of trying to avoid asserting my opinion as fact. If I really wanted to assert everything I'm saying right now as fact I would have said "I have information about the film..here it is.." but even in the thread heading it said based on the TIDBIT OF INFORMATION WE HAVE "what do YOU think"? You can even see it in the language I used throughout the thread. And yep..I did use the term "Degradation of a series",..know why?? Because that's my opinion. Which is why I asked other people for their thoughts and opinions. I'm not obligated to answer to you based on my use of language..if I choose to state my opinion in an objective manner and you don't like it then you don't have to read it..in fact you could just block me it really is that simple. If all you're going to do is state that my theory is wrong without any real reasoning behind it then I'm not obligated to even evaluate your argument. Yeah..it is a theory and I made that clear in my other posts hence why I used "maybe".."if...".

 

[salsalover64]

Uhhh really? I might have missed it about the official info about the wedding and dresses and all ... links please.

I was referring to the information posted on saiyan island that posted earlier which..in fact..is also mentioned on "The last.." facebook page.

 

[salsalover64]

Picture are not enough to know anything about the film, look at Ironman's MK etc.

Yeah, the wedding, you based it on pictures, meaning it's a rumor coming from you. Drawing conclusions and creating a summary by looking at the pictures.

Again, Pictures are not plot.

Actually I was referring to the basic info about the plot that I've posted more than once and you don't seem to be understanding that. I'm referring to the fact that I've seen the basic information about the film everywhere and now that I'm piecing things together I'm not wasting time on the film. No duh pictures in themselves are not plot but that doesn't mean pictures can't be used along with the information we were given to draw conclusions about the film to decide whether or not I personally would watch it.

 

[Legitimate]

I was referring to the information posted on saiyan island that posted earlier which..in fact..is also mentioned on "The last.." facebook page.

Links where they said there's a wedding.

Like I told you before, you're just making conclusion and summary by looking at the pictures.

It's your own version of The Last Naruto Movie, a non canon version and according to you it is truly the degradation of a series.

It's your own version of the movie that brings degradation to the Naruto Series.

Well......word on the forum is part of the movie is hinata being forced to marry toneri (the antagonist) to complete the moon ritual. =l This...is starting to sound like a cheesy romance film to me. I was ok with the naruto and hinata shipping and still am. I was ok when we found out that we'd get to see how they got together. But now all I can picture is some old guy saying "if anyone has any reason that this man and woman should not be married then speak up now or forever hold your peace" and naruto bursting through the doors proclaiming his love for her like some cheesy romance film character. This truly is the degradation of a series. I liked chapter 699 and 700 but now I feel like a lot of what people said about the shipping and fanservice is all true.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I hope it is a good movie and I hope Kishi makes this romance stuff works. His trolling during the manga was ridicoulus. It's like he knew there were wars going on in the fanbase.

 

[salsalover64]

Links where they said there's a wedding.

Like I told you before, you're just making conclusion and summary by looking at the pictures.

It's your own version of The Last Naruto Movie, a non canon version and according to you it is truly the degradation of a series.

It's your own version of the movie that brings degradation to the Naruto Series.

Ok..since you can't seem to understand my post and i've explained it so many times I'm done engaging in this discussion. I've tried explaining numerous times my conclusions are not based on the pictures alone but the summaries of the film on sites such as but not limited to saiyan island as well as the franchise's FB page. Since the word SUMMARIES seems to be continuously going over your head this argument is pointless. Everyone else on the forum seems to be on the same page regarding the plot of film. If you wanna be one of those people that chooses to ignore a plethora of information released by multiple sources..even the damn franchise's own page then go on..no one is stopping you but don't rag on other for choosing to utilize verified information.

 

[Anorien16]

I'm guessing you missed the part where I said him having access to the byakugan is partially vital to his plan.

And how does Marriage or Reproduction gets tied into this exactly? He would stick in his winier in and get 'No more virgin' Byakugan power up from the orgasm?

Actually I explicitly stated numerous times..even now.

Really? You explained how magic wedding or magic *** is going to give partial access to Byakugan? Sorry might have missed it.

That this was meant to be an opinion thread and if you read that then you'd know that was my way of trying to avoid asserting my opinion as fact.

The opinion that your theory is wrong is opinion too you know.

If I really wanted to assert everything I'm saying right now as fact I would have said "I have information about the film..here it is.." but even in the thread heading it said based on the TIDBIT OF INFORMATION WE HAVE

You forgot to say that you are also counting in theories and forum talk.

"what do YOU think"?

I think your theory is too presumption considering the lack of official materials and is based on 'rumors'.

And yep..I did use the term "Degradation of a series",..know why?? Because that's my opinion.

Too presumptuous opinion considering you imagined up the plot details too ...

Which is why I asked other people for their thoughts and opinions.

But apparently cant handle those opinions which tell you that you are making your theories on unstable grounds.

I'm not obligated to answer to you based on my use of language..if I choose to state my opinion in an objective manner and you don't like it then you don't have to read it..in fact you could just block me it really is that simple.

Mirror mirror on the wall, art thou not shiny at all?

If all you're going to do is state that my theory is wrong

So we CANT give conflicting opinions. Good to know.

without any real reasoning behind it

Real reasoning?

1. Those pictures are part of a rumor (S.Island itself calls it a rumor) and contain mistakes. Thus may not be legit at all.
2. Tonerei has no real reason to marry Hinata in full ceremony. Cos if it is true its forced marriage and rape anyway.
3. Throughout the series stealing Dojutsu is through taking the eye. Though reproducing is a valid way too but the moon is likely to crash even before they begin.
etc

Isnt reasons at all.

then I'm not obligated to even evaluate your argument.

I doubt your megalomania would allow that anyway.

Yeah..it is a theory and I made that clear in my other posts hence why I used "maybe".."if...".

So ****ing learn to consider the other side of 'maybe' and 'ifs'.

PS Guess who got their jimmies rustled and neg repped because they cant handle conflicting opinion?

 

[Legitimate]

Ok..since you can't seem to understand my post and i've explained it so many times I'm done engaging in this discussion. I've tried explaining numerous times my conclusions are not based on the pictures alone but the summaries of the film on sites such as but not limited to saiyan island as well as the franchise's FB page. Since the word SUMMARIES seems to be continuously going over your head this argument is pointless. Everyone else on the forum seems to be on the same page regarding the plot of film. If you wanna be one of those people that chooses to ignore a plethora of information released by multiple sources..even the damn franchise's own page then go on..no one is stopping you but don't rag on other for choosing to utilize verified information.

I said, Official Links where they said there's a wedding.

 

[salsalover64]

And how does Marriage or Reproduction gets tied into this exactly? He would stick in his winier in and get 'No more virgin' Byakugan power up from the orgasm?



Really? You explained how magic wedding or magic *** is going to give partial access to Byakugan? Sorry might have missed it.

Yup..you did miss the part where I said it's partially to have access to the byakugan

The opinion that your theory is wrong is opinion too you know.

You forgot to say that you are also counting in theories and forum talk.

Yup...I am..I even admitted it in the OT. Know why? Because this was meant to be an opinion and theory based thread.

I think your theory is too presumption considering the lack of official materials and is based on 'rumors'.

No..you mean..there's a theory?? In a THEORY BASED thread???? =o wow...you've truly blown my mind.

Too presumptuous opinion considering you imagined up the plot details too ...

See my previous comment.

But apparently cant handle those opinions which tell you that you are making your theories on unstable grounds.





Mirror mirror on the wall, art thou not shiny at all?

And I've already stated the other pieces of information that substantiate my theory other than pictures if you don't want to acknowledge it then that's a person problem.

So we CANT give conflicting opinions. Good to know.

Yup because the assertion that my theory is wrong is an argumentative claim and at that point I expect and explanation. If you don't have one and all you're going to do is stand on the sidelines without any alternative explanation then I'm going to dismiss your claim. Hell..even if you used the basic info about the plot as an alternative explanation then that would have sufficed.

Real reasoning?

1. Those pictures are part of a rumor (S.Island itself calls it a rumor) and contain mistakes. Thus may not be legit at all.
2. Tonerei has no real reason to marry Hinata in full ceremony. Cos if it is true its forced marriage and rape anyway.
3. Throughout the series stealing Dojutsu is through taking the eye. Though reproducing is a valid way too but the moon is likely to crash even before they begin.
etc

Isnt reasons at all.



I doubt your megalomania would allow that anyway.



So ****ing learn to consider the other side of 'maybe' and 'ifs'.

Yes..reproduction is also a valid method and yeah it would be rape. Have you considered that may have been the point?? What was he gonna do..spend the entire movie trying to convince her to marry some guy who wants have a ceremony dedication tot he destruction of everything she knows and loves?? Also..there were a lot of things we thought to be rumors that have been confirmed to be true..based on the information we have it's not crazy to take it into consideration. I'm not going to consider the other side of maybe's and what if's unless mine are considered because I'm not obligated to. If you're going to stand there and deliberately derail my thread based on your misinterpretation of the OT then no..I'm not going to engage. I'm going to attempt to reestablish the point of the thread wich was to give people a place to express their opinions and thoughts about how the movie may or may not turn out and because of that I'm ending this discussion. I don't see what the outcome is supposed to be since we're never going to agree. You haven't even offered any alternative explanations so we couldn't even consider other possibilities even if we wanted to. If you want to learn more about the theory I'm referring to then I'd encourage you to cruise through the forums a bit.

 

[salsalover64]

I hope it is a good movie and I hope Kishi makes this romance stuff works. His trolling during the manga was ridicoulus. It's like he knew there were wars going on in the fanbase.

I know..honestly..I'm hoping I'm wrong I really don't want to see another movie based on forced marriage because to me that's just taking things to far. But it seems like the more I read the more difficult it is not to see this movie as a romcom. All it really needs is amy smart and matthew mcconaughey.

 

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[salsalover64]

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It did...it did...but hopefully we can get back to what this thread was supposed to be..an opinion sharing thread about the movie and thoughts bout how it could turn out. At this point I'm conflicted over whether or not I'll be watching it. I really don't like love stories but since it's from a series I grew up with I feel like I'd be out of the loop if I didn't.

 

[Anorien16]

Yup..you did miss the part where I said it's partially to have access to the byakugan

I dont think he would need a child with Byakugan nine moths later the Moon crashes to earth, destroying everything including their bedroom?

Yup...I am..I even admitted it in the OT. Know why? Because this was meant to be an opinion and theory based thread.

Case settled ... I think your theory is too presumptuous.

No..you mean..there's a theory?? In a THEORY BASED thread???? =o wow...you've truly blown my mind.

There are rumors about Aliens, UFOs and Reptile Politicians who eats humans ..... There is something called credible theories and grounded fact. Hope you heard of them. Not to mention you cant really base a theory off a theory and to make another theory to create a Theoryception.

Not to mention are your really thick enough to not to get that those pictures you are basing your theory on is possibly fan made?

And I've already stated the other pieces of information that substantiate my theory other than pictures if you don't want to acknowledge it then that's a person problem.

So its my problem if question the validity of the said rumor picture leaks .... Listen sweetcheeks when you claim something, the burden of proof lies with you not the opponent. Provide me the source that clearly shows its from verified official source then we are done .... but if you cant that would imply your argument fraudulent.

Yup because the assertion that my theory is wrong is an argumentative claim and at that point I expect and explanation.

I too expecting proof that the said (faulty) pictures are actually legit not a 'rumor'.

If you don't have one and all you're going to do is stand on the sidelines without any alternative explanation then I'm going to dismiss your claim.

Oh please dont pretend you would even consider even if explanation bit you in the nether yay yay.

Hell..even if you used the basic info about the plot as an alternative explanation then that would have sufficed.

Like you did? Oh i remember I just based my entire theory on picture from a debateable legitimacy?

Yes..reproduction is also a valid method and yeah it would be rape. Have you considered that may have been the point??

Have you considered the fact that the sticking his **** in Hinata wont immediately do anything? And the given the condition of the moon it would crash and destroy the world anyway even before the first week. Not to mention why have a pre rape ceremony with wedding dresses and all? Isnt that totally a waste of time?

What was he gonna do..spend the entire movie trying to convince her to marry some guy who wants have a ceremony dedication to the destruction of everything she knows and loves??

Dont you think for such a practical person making a wedding dress and going through a ceremony is bit tad too unnecessary ....? Ofc then again Tonerei can be a gentlemanly rapists who marries his future victim in full pomp.

Also..there were a lot of things we thought to be rumors that have been confirmed to be true..based on the information we have it's not crazy to take it into consideration.

Except that the said article/picture is proved to be inadequate .... Kurenai's daughter has light brown hair, Bolt and Himawari's design is bit unlike the canon.

Not to mention nearly 90% of my expectation were true ... then wouldnt it be crazy not to trust my interpretation too?

I'm not going to consider the other side of maybe's and what if's unless mine are considered because I'm not obligated to. If you're going to stand there and deliberately derail my thread based on your misinterpretation of the OT then no.....

Basically fancy way of saying: 'Waaaanh! I dont think I am wrong'

I'm not going to engage.

Surprising considering you did till now ....

I'm going to attempt to reestablish the point of the thread wich was to give people a place to express their opinions and thoughts about how the movie may or may not turn out and because of that I'm ending this discussion.

Really? Given your attitude only people who agree with you more or less may be considered valid.

I don't see what the outcome is supposed to be since we're never going to agree.

Which reveals the fact that you never debated anyone.

You haven't even offered any alternative explanations

Alternative explanation:

1. Those pictures are inadequete/fanmade.
2. Hinata was never kidnapped. Hinabi was taken as replacement.
3. Hinata/Hanabi is going to be sacrificed/used as a vessel/used to activate something. (Which is much more logical than magic *** world domination plan or black wedding gown)

A rocket scientist might have guessed gotten the hint.

so we couldn't even consider other possibilities even if we wanted to.

I though you had pretty good deduction skills.

If you want to learn more about the theory I'm referring to then I'd encourage you to cruise through the forums a bit.

Just provide me the proof that the picture in question is from a legitimate source or undoubtedly irrefutable.

For example:

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"Ever since she was little, Hinata wanted to give Naruto a scarf as a personal gift from her to him. However, a mysterious man has appears, with the intent to kidnap Hinata. He fails on doing so and instead captures the wrong person instead – Hinata’s sister, Hanabi!"

Proof:
- Hinata was initial target but some kind of confusion led to Hanabi being taken instead.
- Torenei may not aware that he has the wrong person.
- At least initial portion of plot will have Naruto and Hinata traveling together.

 

[~Ethereal~]

It would be a lovey dovey movie.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

It would be a lovey dovey movie.

You know you like it. Come on!! XD

 

[~Ethereal~]

You know you like it. Come on!! XD

I will judge after seeing the movie.

 

[Shruikan]

The funny thing is the OP is a NaruHina fan and she is getting bashed by her own fandom for even nitpicking about Hinata in the movie.LOL

 

[Zlatán]

After going through the advertisement for the movie bonds, my expectations for the trailers and marketing are pretty low, they literally included Sasuke in every poster and he appears in the last 20 mins, ain't going through that again