Now that we know a tidbit of the plot of The Last..what do you think?

[salsalover64]

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which is titled as- The Last: Naruto the Movie: Sage Tailed Beast Mode Naruto, Hinata, Kakashi Art (RUMOR)

Not to mention the said article has this picture:

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where if you look into closely you will see that Kurenai's child seemingly has light brown hair when we know for legit that she has jet black hair. Which questions the legitimacy of the source.

Not to mention idiot what Hinata is wearing is very less likely to be wedding gown in that picture as in Japanese culture BLACK IS THE COLOR OF DEPRESSION, MOURNING AND SORROW ..... who the faq makes a wedding gown in black????? Its more likely to be sacrificial raiment if anything.

Not to mention you still haven't proved any point regarding the problem that the time to required for reproduction would mean that the Moon is likely to crash by the time Hinata even ovulates OR the fact that Hanabi was the one confirmed to be kidnapped and she is a fertile Hyuga too OR why bother with a marriage ceremony when Hinata is going to be raped to 'reproduce' anyway????

Dont get mad cause you got no firm basis for your argument under your feet.

Your first point made me lol because it had absolutely nothing to do with your main argument.

If you don't understand the logistics of my argument then there's really no point in explaining it to you. I've explained it multiple times that it was confirmed that having access to the byakugan is partially necessary to toneri's plan. It doesn't matter whether it be from hanabi or hinata but since he was after hinata to begin with it's obvious that he took her sister to draw her out of hiding. Actually my argument is solid. If you don't want to explain why we see hinata in wedding dress that clearly has ceremonial purpose behind it then at that point I'm going to assume that you're just cherry picking.

 

[Anorien16]

So your argument is Hinata wearing something similar to wedding dress(or we could be wrong), yet your Source which is a Rumor doesn't say anything about the wedding. Not even the trailer is saying something about the wedding.

You're conflicting and going against your own argument.

Also add to the fact that Black isnt a viable Wedding dress color as it kinda signifies mourning and Jap people wear that color in funerals.

 

[salsalover64]

Too much damage control, too much bullshit, too much stupidity
I don't know how to say this, this whole thread is just weak

Well the original purpose of the thread was meant to be an opinion thread but it seems like that's completely been over looked. I even said now that we know a TIDBIT of the plot of the last "what do you think"??. But nope...people couldn't be bothered to take that into account so now we have this.....whatever this is.

 

[Xlad]

Wow. Legitimate is on some legit shit. AN16 pretty much has a good point. Even if one doesn't know about Japanese culture, black at first look is way too dark to be used in a wedding.

 

[salsalover64]

So your argument is Hinata wearing something similar to wedding dress(or we could be wrong), yet your Source which is a Rumor doesn't say anything about the wedding. Not even the trailer is saying something about the wedding.

You're conflicting and going against your own argument.

Can you copy and paste what you consider to be conflicting statements within the argument. As I stated before the facebook page created by the movie franchise itself confirmed the plot information on websites such as saiyan island.

 

[salsalover64]

Wow. Legitimate is on some legit shit. AN16 pretty much has a good point. Even if one doesn't know about Japanese culture, black at first look is way too dark to be used in a wedding.

Not when the subplot involves the destruction of a planet.

 

[Anorien16]

Your first point made me lol because it had absolutely nothing to do with your main argument.

So the site admitting that the said pictures are rumor as those pictures were not released from the usual media ... thus meaning the whole premise of you argument is just talk .... has nothing to do with the argument? Please sell your rockets to a enemy country and you would be doing your own country a favor.

If you don't understand the logistics of my argument then there's really no point in explaining it to you.

Your only logic if you have any is the so called 'wedding gown'.

I've explained it multiple times that it was confirmed that having access to the byakugan is partially necessary to toneri's plan.

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...

It doesn't matter whether it be from hanabi or hinata but since he was after hinata to begin with it's obvious that he took her sister to draw her out of hiding.

Really? I thought people were saying that Tonerei wants to reproduce with a Hyuga ... not reproduce specifically with Hinata. Changing goalposts again?

Actually my argument is solid.

As solid as foam.

If you don't want to explain why we see hinata in wedding dress that clearly has ceremonial purpose behind it then at that point I'm going to assume that you're just cherry picking.

Given that Black is the Japanese color of mourning and Japanese people wear black in funerals .... Can you explain to me why the dress is black? And also why bother with a wedding dress and all when it is gonna be forced thing anyway?

Not when the subplot involves the destruction of a planet.

I dont think Tonerei is gonna cry much when his plan comes to fruition ..... So why would he dress his newly wedded wife in black when he wont be the one mourning?

 

[Legitimate]

Well the original purpose of the thread was meant to be an opinion thread but it seems like that's completely been over looked. I even said now that we know a TIDBIT of the plot of the last "what do you think"??. But nope...people couldn't be bothered to take that into account so now we have this.....whatever this is.

Trailer of the Movie >>>>>> TIDBIT based on Pictures only (Rumors)

Pictures are not PLOT.

You said, it was meant to be an opinion, yet you wanted to force it in our mind that it's a fact using your good deduction skills and conflicting arguments.

Look at the BOLD LETTERS:

Well......word on the forum is part of the movie is hinata being forced to marry toneri (the antagonist) to complete the moon ritual. =l This...is starting to sound like a cheesy romance film to me. I was ok with the naruto and hinata shipping and still am. I was ok when we found out that we'd get to see how they got together. But now all I can picture is some old guy saying "if anyone has any reason that this man and woman should not be married then speak up now or forever hold your peace" and naruto bursting through the doors proclaiming his love for her like some cheesy romance film character. This truly is the degradation of a series. I liked chapter 699 and 700 but now I feel like a lot of what people said about the shipping and fanservice is all true.

If you can't pick up on obvious sarcasm then all hope of explaining my comment is lost on you. Actually there are numerous summaries. What do you think those posts from saiyan island have been about??? puppies??? Hell, they even have a facebook page with info about the movie on it it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw conclusions and create a summary based on that information. Don't hate on other people for having good deduction skills just because you're lacking in that department.

For some reason people are now saying it's hinata. He wants to reproduce with a hyuga so maybe hinata went in to save her sister and became captive herself.

 

[zeezzay]

well we use red as wedding color this help

 

[salsalover64]

So the site admitting that the said pictures are rumor as those pictures were not released from the usual media ... thus meaning the whole premise of you argument is just talk .... has nothing to do with the argument? Please sell you rockets to a enemy country and you would be doing your own country a favor.





Your only logic if you have any is the so called 'wedding gown'.



Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...



Really? I thought people were saying that Tonerei wants to reproduce with a Hyuga ... not reproduce specifically with Hinata.



As solid as foam.



Given that Black is the Japanese color of mourning and Japanese people wear black in funerals .... Can you explain to me why the dress is black? And also why bother with a wedding dress and all when it is gonna be forced thing anyway?

Because you said it yourself..black is the color of mourning and with the destruction of a planet as a subplot it's actually really befitting. And yeah..I even said since he wants access to the byakugan that it didn't just have to be hinata but the fact is he was originally after hinata and abducted her sister aware that hinata would attempt to save her. With that being said it would explain the pic with the wedding dress. Yeah it is a theory...but theories are also based on observations and various pieces of information with that being said I've posted other pieces of information verifying my point. As I said before..if you don't wanna try to read between the lines that's fine but don't trash someone for drawing conclusions based on what they've read and seen. I even stated in the title of the thread that we have a tidbit of information regarding the plot. If you over looked that there's nothing I can do about that and at that point it's on you. I did however explicitly state that it was a theory based on the information on saiyan island and on the forum. I could understand your frustration if I attempted to assert my opinions as fact but the fact is I said multiple things in the title and my OT that were indicative of a thread that would primarily contain opinions. If YOU wanna get your jimmies rustled over an over sight then that's a personal problem.

 

[Legitimate]

Because you said it yourself..black is the color of mourning and with the destruction of a planet as a subplot it's actually really befitting. And yeah..I even said since he wants access to the byakugan that it didn't just have to be hinata but the fact is he was originally after hinata and abducted her sister aware that hinata would attempt to save her. With that being said it would explain the pic with the wedding dress. Yeah it is a theory...but theories are also based on observations and various pieces of information with that being said I've posted other pieces of information verifying my point. As I said before..if you don't wanna try to read between the lines that's fine but don't trash someone for drawing conclusions based on what they've read and seen. I even stated in the title of the thread that we have a tidbit of information regarding the plot. If you over looked that there's nothing I can do about that and at that point it's on you. I did however explicitly state that it was a theory based on the information on saiyan island and on the forum. I could understand your frustration if I attempted to assert my opinions as fact but the fact is I said multiple things in the title and my OT that were indicative of a thread that would primarily contain opinions. If YOU wanna get your jimmies rustled over an over sight then that's a personal problem.

Yet

If you can't pick up on obvious sarcasm then all hope of explaining my comment is lost on you. Actually there are numerous summaries. What do you think those posts from saiyan island have been about??? puppies??? Hell, they even have a facebook page with info about the movie on it it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw conclusions and create a summary based on that information. Don't hate on other people for having good deduction skills just because you're lacking in that department.

When driven to a corner,

For some reason people are now saying it's hinata. He wants to reproduce with a hyuga so maybe hinata went in to save her sister and became captive herself.

Instantly changes his argument,

Actually it isn't a "maybe.." Siayan island confirms that he was hinata all along and we see a picture of hinata in a wedding dress I don't see what else you expect people to interpret from that.

 

[salsalover64]

Trailer of the Movie >>>>>> TIDBIT based on Pictures only (Rumors)

Pictures are not PLOT.

You said, it was meant to be an opinion, yet you wanted to force it in our mind that it's a fact using your good deduction skills and conflicting arguments.

Look at the BOLD LETTERS:

Yup..you're right..I did say all that and that was my way of letting people know that it was an opinion. This was meant to be an opinion forum based on what we knew about the movie thus far. Yep I did preface by stating EXPLICITLY how I imagined things playing out. Know why?? because that's the type of thing that happens on an opinion thread. When I said to iceburn "it's not half baked..we've seen this info in other places" yup I was referring to the pic we saw of hinata int he dress. Know why? Because it was also believed that the pics that we see now were just rumors and I was stating that there are summaries and other pieces of info out there that a person could draw deductions from. Hence why I've made it a point to post my views. If you had read carefully you would've understood the purpose of this thread but you didn't..you jumped the gun..and now instead of a well organized thread with a definitive purpose which was originally for people voice their opinions about the plot of the film as we knew it we now have a ball of shit. Which is why I agreed with the people that said that this movie and chapter 700 are both just shipping ploys. If you had reading comprehension skills you'd know it was an opinion thread from the moment I said "this is the degradation of a series".

 

[salsalover64]

Yet



When driven to a corner,



Instantly changes his argument,

Actually my argument has been consistent all along. I even stated from the beginning in my OT what I was imagining and I used the term "maybe" from the beginning to illustrate that. If you perceived that I was trying to assert my opinion as fact then that truly is a personal problem since I made my intentions clear in the OT.

 

[Legitimate]

Yup..you're right..I did say all that and that was my way of letting people know that it was an opinion. This was meant to be an opinion forum based on what we knew about the movie thus far. Yep I did preface by stating EXPLICITLY how I imagined things playing out. Know why?? because that's the type of thing that happens on an opinion thread. When I said to iceburn "it's not half baked..we've seen this info in other places" yup I was referring to the pic we saw of hinata int he dress. Know why? Because it was also believed that the pics that we see now were just rumors and I was stating that there are summaries and other pieces of info out there that a person could draw deductions from. Hence why I've made it a point to post my views. If you had read carefully you would've understood the purpose of this thread but you didn't..you jumped the gun..and now instead of a well organized thread with a definitive purpose which was originally for people voice their opinions about the plot of the film as we knew it we now have a ball of shit. Which is why I agreed with the people that said that this movie and chapter 700 are both just shipping ploys. If you had reading comprehension skills you'd know it was an opinion thread from the moment I said "this is the degradation of a series".

Sigh.......

The trailer of the movie = doesn't talk about the wedding

Rumors = there's a wedding

Trailer of the Movie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rumors

Well......word on the forum is part of the movie is hinata being forced to marry toneri (the antagonist) to complete the moon ritual. =l This...is starting to sound like a cheesy romance film to me. I was ok with the naruto and hinata shipping and still am. I was ok when we found out that we'd get to see how they got together. But now all I can picture is some old guy saying "if anyone has any reason that this man and woman should not be married then speak up now or forever hold your peace" and naruto bursting through the doors proclaiming his love for her like some cheesy romance film character. This truly is the degradation of a series. I liked chapter 699 and 700 but now I feel like a lot of what people said about the shipping and fanservice is all true.

Nobody is forcing you to watch the Movie.

 

[To Whatever]

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The op is still getting rekt'd

Still thinks she knows the plot before the movie even comes out.

 

[salsalover64]

Sigh.......

The trailer of the movie = doesn't talk about the wedding

Rumors = there's a wedding

Trailer of the Movie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rumors






Nobody is forcing you to watch the Movie.

The trailer of the movie didn't mention a lot of things. Doesn't mean it isn't happening it just means that it wasn't mentioned in the trailer of the movie. There a lot of things that are exempt from movie trailers because the point of a trailer is highlighting aspects of the movie that fans will be interested in. It doesn't mean the info we've seen isn't true. And I even referred to the point about me not watching the movie in my discussion with iceburn. I even said I wasn't going to watch it and the point of this thread was to hear what people thought of the plot and whether they were still planning on watching the movie or whether or not they thought it was a shipping ploy. That's what I was getting at in my OT. If it were my intention to create an argument thread I would have broken my OT down into points and made explicit assertions instead of saying "maybe...", "I can only imagine..."....etc.

 

[salsalover64]

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The op is still getting rekt'd

Still thinks she knows the plot before the movie even comes out.

Yup..I do..and you would too if you'd consider information from the sources. I'm guessing the fact that the explanation of the plot of the film is posted damn near everywhere..hell even on the news doesn't mean anything to you. It wouldn't be the first time the information about the plot of a film has been released well before its due date especially if it's part of a franchise with a large fan base.

 

[Anorien16]

Because you said it yourself..black is the color of mourning and with the destruction of a planet as a subplot it's actually really befitting.

Not from Tonerei's view point, he is achieving what he wants, so why he would donning the color of sorrow? He is getting his desired thing.

And yeah..I even said since he wants access to the byakugan that it didn't just have to be hinata but the fact is he was originally after hinata

Maybe just because she was the elder child?

and abducted her sister aware that hinata would attempt to save her.

He might also be aware that unlike during the surprise attack there would more people on alert, and people might actually stop her from going.

With that being said it would explain the pic with the wedding dress.

Yeah ... a Emo Goth Wedding dress apparently.

Yeah it is a theory...but theories are also based on observations and various pieces of information with that being said I've posted other pieces of information verifying my point.

Information that has a valid basis ... those pictures were not officially released (Thus are with some mistakes) and was touted as rumors by the very site itself ..... If such is the standard of theories that would mean all the Aliens, UFO and Reptile Politicians are valid Theories.

Not to mention your so called theory does not explain how Magic Wedding Ceremony or Magic Reproduction will help in any kind of Antagonist Plan ..... as per shonen standards go, in every evil plan that requires kidnapping that person is usually the key to activating something that might rob them of their life .... which never requires marriage or reproduction in any remote way. Themes like marriage only comes in plots where there is bloodlines is to be obtained (I which case Hanabi and every other Hyuga women be targeted) or there is property inheritance involved (Dont think Tonerei is much interested in the Hyuga mansion) or there is desire for the target involved.

As I said before..if you don't wanna try to read between the lines that's fine but don't trash someone for drawing conclusions based on what they've read and seen.

Oh I like reading between the lines but trying to pass off as you said 'Theories' as 'facts' .... then we have a problem.

I even stated in the title of the thread that we have a tidbit of information regarding the plot. If you over looked that there's nothing I can do about that and at that point it's on you. I did however explicitly state that it was a theory based on the information on saiyan island and on the forum.

Oh really? Lets see again:

Well......word on the forum is part of the movie is hinata being forced to marry toneri (the antagonist) to complete the moon ritual. =l This...is starting to sound like a cheesy romance film to me. I was ok with the naruto and hinata shipping and still am. I was ok when we found out that we'd get to see how they got together. But now all I can picture is some old guy saying "if anyone has any reason that this man and woman should not be married then speak up now or forever hold your peace" and naruto bursting through the doors proclaiming his love for her like some cheesy romance film character. This truly is the degradation of a series. I liked chapter 699 and 700 but now I feel like a lot of what people said about the shipping and fanservice is all true.

So we can see how you basically changed a 'word on the forum' into something definitive that is 'degradation of a series' ..... Now u are trying to cop out saying it is just a theory.

I could understand your frustration if I attempted to assert my opinions as fact but the fact is I said multiple things in the title and my OT that were indicative of a thread that would primarily contain opinions.

So the opinion that you are wrong in your theory to begin with is not a opinion? Right?

If YOU wanna get your jimmies rustled over an over sight then that's a personal problem.

Mind the big 'IF'.

 

[Legitimate]

The trailer of the movie didn't mention a lot of things. Doesn't mean it isn't happening it just means that it wasn't mentioned in the trailer of the movie. There a lot of things that are exempt from movie trailers because the point of a trailer is highlighting aspects of the movie that fans will be interested in. It doesn't mean the info we've seen isn't true. And I even referred to the point about me not watching the movie in my discussion with iceburn. I even said I wasn't going to watch it and the point of this thread was to hear what people thought of the plot and whether they were still planning on watching the movie or whether or not they thought it was a shipping ploy. That's what I was getting at in my OT. If it were my intention to create an argument thread I would have broken my OT down into points and made explicit assertions instead of saying "maybe...", "I can only imagine..."....etc.

Still,

Trailer >>>>>>>> Rumors

Watch the movie if you want to know the plot, not draw conclusions and create a summary based on rumored information.

You cannot create conclusions and summary of a Movie that isn't out yet.

If you can't pick up on obvious sarcasm then all hope of explaining my comment is lost on you. Actually there are numerous summaries. What do you think those posts from saiyan island have been about??? puppies??? Hell, they even have a facebook page with info about the movie on it it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw conclusions and create a summary based on that information. Don't hate on other people for having good deduction skills just because you're lacking in that department.

 

[salsalover64]

Still,

Trailer >>>>>>>> Rumors

Watch the movie if you want to know the plot, not draw conclusions and create a summary based on rumored information.

You cannot create conclusions and summary of a Movie that isn't out yet.

If someone knows enough about a film to know they wouldn't like it they're not going to waste time watching it. Especially when they can just read a synopsis of it. Plus if the information about the film has been confirmed by the franchise's FB page then at that point it's not a rumor it's confirmed information.