How does Hashirama break Tsukuyomi?

[KingHashirama]

Lol Sorry, I worded that incorrectly. The point is still valid though

I'm not saying every genjutsu Itachi does is a tsukuyomi, I'm saying Madara and Sasuke have never used Tsukuyomi, but base sharingan genjutsu

Tsukuyomi = left eye genjutsu

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What Sasuke used as "normal sharingan genjutsu" ws via the right eye:

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That saying went down the drain when Kakashi got his susanoo. Meaning tsukuyomi isn't an absolute necessary

Madara doesn't have amaterasu either, never ever used it in the manga.

In fact the two brothers (sasuke and itachi) are the only ones to use Amaterasu in the manga

Him not showing amaterasu only means he doesn't have the ability to use it to a good extent, it does not mean he hasn't unlocked it. There is a big difference. Look at all the people who have multiple elemental affinities but have never used any elements. They still have the capability to use those things. Just like Madara has the capability to use them....

Susanoo > AMaterasu and Tsukuyomi.... Susanoo is the strongest sharingan jutsu.

Kakashi got his susanoo for couple of minutes.. and due to sage's chakra.. But how do you know he didn't unlock amaterasua nd tsukuyomi?

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Hashirama just fights him with his eyes closed and senses his movements with sage mode will that work

This, Sage Mode does not require sight at all, only sense and natural energy.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Tsukuyomi = left eye genjutsu

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What Sasuke used as "normal sharingan genjutsu" ws via the right eye:

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How do you know the left/right eye is the same for Madara as Itachi? That's just baseless assumption for convenience

Madara doesn't have any named MS genjutsu. If he had we would have known.

FYI, Madara always covered his right eye because of the emo hairstyle, btw. Until he became juubi jin

 

[Chazzi]

A strong mental fortitude can resist or even break Tsukiyomi.

nice fanfic you got going

 

[KingHashirama]

How do you know the left/right eye is the same for Madara as Itachi? That's just baseless assumption for convenience

Madara doesn't have any named MS genjutsu. If he had we would have known.

FYI, Madara always covered his right eye because of the emo hairstyle, btw. Until he became juubi jin

Even "normal genjutsu" was named...... where does it say it needs to be named?? rofl.

And how do you knwo its different for them ??


If you want to prove, the whole concept of Tsukuyomi/amaterasu aren't required for susanoo.. don't question whats shown.. if you are gonna question, then provide a scan where it shows the oppposite.

 

[Chie]

He wouldn't since he'd only have a second to break it if Itachi were serious. However...

threads like these are the equivalent of asking what would occur if Lee got hit by Konohamaru's rasengan. It's pointless because it wouldn't happen in the first place.

Hashirama wouldn't ever get caught in Tsukiyomi. He'd kill Itachi before that'd ever happen.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

He wouldn't since he'd only have a second to break it if Itachi were serious. However...

threads like these are the equivalent of asking what would occur if Lee got hit by Konohamaru's rasengan. It's pointless because it wouldn't happen in the first place.

Hashirama wouldn't ever get caught in Tsukiyomi. He'd kill Itachi before that'd ever happen.

I wouldn't make unnecessary hypothetical threads like this if I didn't know there could be a possible outcome. Based on Kakashi's statement we know who're able able to break Tsukuyomi according to the facts we learned from the manga later on. My question was whether Hashirama could break tsukuyomi like Naruto or Nagato, which Imo he can't.

And as for not getting caught in tsukuyomi, the thread title was about whether he could break it, which connotates Hashirama being under the genjutsu by default, which he has to break, not avoid

 

[3MESSIAH]

He cant,he can only avoid it easilu

 

[salamander uchiha]

Nonsense not ever perfect jins can break it. Itachis tsukiyomi is over in a moment. He manipulates your perception of time. Hashi cant break it.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Fact: He can't ! Only jinchhuriki, Uchiha with sharingan and rinnegan users can break it

Unless you can prove otherwise Lol

Tsukuyomi solos, Totsuka blitz GG, Yata Mirror GG

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Mokuton absorbs chakra and jutsu, including that given off by genjutsu. Hashirama also has his massive separate senjutsu chakra source to possibly disrupt it. I don't know about Yata Mirror, but Totsuka appears to be composed of chakra as well.

Soloist also made a good point about him keeping his eyes closed and sensing Itachi with senjutsu.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Even "normal genjutsu" was named...... where does it say it needs to be named?? rofl.

And how do you knwo its different for them ??


If you want to prove, the whole concept of Tsukuyomi/amaterasu aren't required for susanoo.. don't question whats shown.. if you are gonna question, then provide a scan where it shows the oppposite.

Kakashi/Madara using Susano'o without ever showing either. You aren't providing any proof on why the base genjutsu is Tsukuyomi, as tsukuyomi has very obvious effects that the other genjutsu haven't shown

 

[Vapid]

Wow, KH brought his own fanfic into the thread, I see. Madara using Amaterasu (Wtf is this? He didn't even know what Amaterasu was and how it works when Sasuke used it on him...) and Tsukuyomi (... just because he used Genjutsu: Sharingan against Ay, who was clearly conscious of his impending negging – something he wouldn't have the luxury of thinking about if hit by Tsukuyomi – doesn't mean he can use Tsukyomi *smh*)? Log off, KH.

OT: As I said before, Hashirama would not be able to break Tsukuyomi, plain and simple. Completely avoiding it to begin with would be more viable.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Wow, KH brought his own fanfic into the thread, I see. Madara using Amaterasu (Wtf is this? He didn't even know what Amaterasu was and how it works when Sasuke used it on him...) and Tsukuyomi (... just because he used Genjutsu: Sharingan against Ay, who was clearly conscious of his impending negging – something he wouldn't have the luxury of thinking about if hit by Tsukuyomi – doesn't mean he can use Tsukyomi *smh*)? Log off, KH.

OT: As I said before, Hashirama would not be able to break Tsukuyomi, plain and simple. Completely avoiding it to begin with would be more viable.

Yeah, saying that all sharingan users have the same genjutsu from MS is like saying Kurenai and Tayuya use the same sh*t

 

[Sir Blades]

Bringer of Darkness GG

 

[Sharingan King]

He doesn't.

Tsukuyome GG.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Bringer of Darkness GG

A visual genjutsu vs the Sharingan, that thing that breaks Visual Genjutsus.

 

[Benjamin King]

Hashirama gets mental torture from Tsukuyomi.

 

[Meowazziel]

Only Itachi has been shown to have a Tsukuyomi that can control time. His is special.
Other Tsukuyomi's would not control time like that. Meaning you have time to break it through chakra disruption.
Especialy someone with chakra control of the lvl of a sage mode user, should be able to break it.

Sasuke having Tsukuyomi is debateable, but it isnt at Itachi's lvl if he has it.
Sasuke his specialty is Amaterasu flame shaping (Kagatsuchi) and not Tsukuyomi.
Itachi's specialty is Tsukuyomi.
Madara his specialty seems to be Susanoo.

Even if Hashirama would face an Itachi lvl Tsukuyomi, than we dont know how much dmg he would take from it or how fast he would recover from it. Hashirama is a recovery tank.

Besides the thread question is kinda silly if you dont allow Hashirama to find methods how to handle Tsukuyomi, like by avoiding getting caught in the first place. Closing his eyes and sensing with sage mode would be a good tactic.

Its like saying, how will x ninja handle Fuuton Rasen Shuriken, when getting hit by it.
Most shinobi are screwed once getting hit, with the exception of a few.
In general you would try to avoid getting hit as defence, just as in general, you would try to avoid getting hit by a Tsukuyomi of Itachi's lvl.

Madara has never been shown to use Tsukuyomi btw.

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That could just as well be a sharingan genjutsu and not Tsukuyomi.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

nice fanfic you got going

I'm going by canon. Tsukiyomi's function is to cause mental stress and break the spirit, and Sasuke broke it with his sheer desire to kill Itachi.

Nothing is perfect, everything has a weakness. Itachi said this, so you better accept it.

 

[Airbear]

I'm going by canon. Tsukiyomi's function is to cause mental stress and break the spirit, and Sasuke broke it with his sheer desire to kill Itachi.

Nothing is perfect, everything has a weakness. Itachi said this, so you better accept it.

Stupid. "Sheer desire" . Manga states only the same eyes and same blood can break it. Manga facts > your bias assumptions based off bias interpretation.