But you also have the Sharingan. BUT... The but was to emphasize exactly what i was talking about something he says one page before the page you posted. He does have the speed, but he can't just go straight forward recklessly because due to the speed of his movements being so fast, he can't see the opponent's counters well due to lacking the "eye" ability(Sharingan in this case)
Bogard that is very very irrelevant to one's reaction speed becoming faster upon their natural speed being enhanced.
The second Lee said Sasuke could see before but couldn't react.. but implied he can now see and react due to having the same Body speed as Lee(An increase in speed from before) There's nothing more to argue to be very honest.
Lol Ababeel still making himself look like an Idiot? Let's see Gai's DB entry translated first...Already seen Kishi refer to his speed in the 8G as seen in the DB but it hasn't been translated. You and anyone who thinks Minato can outright blitz 7G Gai are complete morons. Yeah quote that.
Bogard that is very very irrelevant to one's reaction speed becoming faster upon their natural speed being enhanced.
The second Lee said Sasuke could see before but couldn't react.. but implied he can now see and react due to having the same Body speed as Lee(An increase in speed from before) There's nothing more to argue to be very honest.
Lol Ababeel still making himself look like an Idiot? Let's see Gai's DB entry translated first...Already seen Kishi refer to his speed in the 8G as seen in the DB but it hasn't been translated. You and anyone who thinks Minato can outright blitz 7G Gai are complete morons. Yeah quote that.
The only clown here is you , prepare your cream after Gai pages are translated , and when you see the only one who is called the fastest shinobi is Minato , clown.
Lol Ababeel still making himself look like an Idiot? Let's see Gai's DB entry translated first...Already seen Kishi refer to his speed in the 8G as seen in the DB but it hasn't been translated. You and anyone who thinks Minato can outright blitz 7G Gai are complete morons. Yeah quote that.
Funny, because I thought some people were retarded enough to not comprehend that scan in the manga, and thought it would help them if Kishi stated that and spoon feed them since their mental abilities are below pre schoolers. Yet, even when he stated that out flat, it did not help.
Well, I can't help but to agree with Einstein, indeed, human's stupidity is limitless, and we have you as a fine proof. Lol
You and anyone who thinks Minato can outright blitz 7G Gai are complete morons. Yeah quote that.
Lol, he said it'd be bad, not that he'd be finished. Wrong about that. The rest is irrelevant to me. I don't care whether or not Madara held back, but he clearly stated that he did NOT want Evening Elephant to hit him, so that whole time on panel we saw him fighting, he was trying NOT to get hit.
Yes, ''bad'' is another way of saying finished especially on the context of what he said. Did he take 5 hits? Yes. Did he take unknown number of hits off-panel? Yes. Did he take Night Guy? Yes. Thus, it wasn't bad because he recovers with the Juubi's benefits. That's all I need to confirm.
Yeah, after he had taken the initial 5, but on panel, which was the main 5, Madara was trying his hardest not to get hit. Lets not deny manga fact. Not to mention he only said that the Evening Elephant isn't enough? Haha, that's good.
Good thing you came to your senses with the bold, because Madara would be contradicting by what he said earlier. Why would you say it's not enough yet trying to avoid it? Makes no sense. He made it clear that he enjoys pain.
-He took advantage of regeneration given by Edo Tensei, and started to take out himself by suicide attacks.
-He admittedly said he took hits from the Bijuu on purpose after he took Hashirama's healing powers.
So, the same applies for the Juubi.
The faster you are, the faster things you will be able to react to. Not that hard to understand. You aren't going to get blitzed by something that moves as fast as you. Speed consists of reaction speed and movement speed, not just movement speed.
-Base Naruto can't react to Ay.
-KCM Naruto can.
I wonder why?
-Obito couldn't react to Hiraishin attacks.
-Juubito can.
If I get blitzed by something that moves 60 mph, but then train and eventually become fast enough to move at 100 mph, am I going to get blitzed by something that moves 60 mph? Obviously not.
I already brought a definition of reaction time and speed, so your definition is not relevant. Speed = from point A to point B. Reaction is the brain response after visualising images. That is the difference and that is the fact. Ah...no. KCM Naruto didn't react to Ay just after he got KCM. He reacted to Ay after he gotten the hang of his movements; and before that, he was blitzed left and right. Not to mention KCM never granted him any special boost in reaction time. Because Juubito has Senjutsu that gives him the ability to predict and process faster than what the brain naturally allows him; thus poor example.
Obviously that's a foolish example, considering there is some distance between the speed it moves at. This is a better example to demonstrate the difference between reaction time and speed, since you're bringing weird definitions and false ones in the matter:
Usain Bolt vs Muhammad Ali - Who is physically faster? Usain, it's obvious. Who is able to react faster? Muhammad. Now, since you bring that faster you go, the faster your reactions become. Why is Muhammad Ali able to react mentally faster than Usain, if the latter was physically faster? It means your imaginative definition of speed is wrong, and your analogy. Speed /=/ Reaction time. It's clear in real life and in the manga.
I never said that speed goes up when reactions go up, I said the reverse, so EMS Sasuke not getting any better speed is irrelevant.
''The faster you are, the faster things you will be able to react to'' - That's what you said. Are you now forgetting what you're saying? I hope not.
Yeah, but that isn't even relevant to anything I'm saying. All that proves is that reaction speed surpasses movement speed, which is something I never denied.
Actually, it's not. Lee is basically saying if you're able to predict your opponent's movements, doesn't mean your body will also keep up with their speed. Reaction time and speed need to function equally in order to both react and dodge. You've literally just said that the faster you are, the faster things you will be able to react to. You're contradicting your statements.
The only clown here is you , prepare your cream after Gai pages are translated , and when you see the only one who is called the fastest shinobi is Minato , clown.
Lol, you waste your time because stupidity has no cure. XD
how would it even make sense to claim that "Minato is the fastest", and then claim to another character "X character is the fastest"
is either one or the other. XD
in the manga it was shown that Minato teleported TWICE before 8th Gate Gai could move.
in the databook it was stated directly that Minato is the fastest.
I don't know what anyone could ask for more, but well. I suppose you're an itachi fan, so that's expected.
There is this never ending war between itachi fans and Jiraiya/Minato's fans. XD
in the manga it was shown that Minato teleported TWICE before 8th Gate Gai could move.
in the databook it was stated directly that Minato is the fastest.
I don't know what anyone could ask for more, but well. I suppose you're an itachi fan, so that's expected.
There is this never ending war between itachi fans and Jiraiya/Minato's fans. XD
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And it's the manga which has shown that a Kunai reached a distance in a hypothetical .1 seconds, whereas Gai reached a same smaller distance in a longer amount of time. I guess 6th Gated Lee's Kunai speed blitzes anyone then? By the time Gai crossed meter the Kunai crossed over 10, seems legit. If you don't get it then I shall give up once and for all.
Bogard that is very very irrelevant to one's reaction speed becoming faster upon their natural speed being enhanced.
The second Lee said Sasuke could see before but couldn't react.. but implied he can now see and react due to having the same Body speed as Lee(An increase in speed from before) There's nothing more to argue to be very honest.
Ah i think i get what you mean now, but this only plays a role if Gai wants to play defensive and in this case i'd agree that the increase in speed will allow him to react faster to an attack. However it's not the same thing when he plays offensive and here comes the danger of going at full speed without tactic that Lee mentioned
14 year old Obito besting Minato in CQC; resulting in Minato having to utilze FTG which in no way represents his body speed/reflexes.
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Base Gai besting 30 year old Rinnegan Obito in CQC.
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Jubi Jin Madara doesn't even get surprised from a Haraishin blitz (Most likely do to a lag time after Minato appears)
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But he gets surprised from a 7G speed blitz
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SM Minato who's reflexes are enhanced above his base form, gets shitted on in CQC in front of Madara
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Exhausted Gai
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, pushed Madara back about 10 meters and drew contact twice in the seventh gate
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Minato's impeccable reflexes and reaction getting shitted on
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Gai's perception and reflexes/reaction time prospers against something fast enough to counter KCM Naruto [
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It's no coincidence that Kishimoto hyped up Gai's reflexes to be as quick as flash. He is the best taijutsu user in the manga; which means his eye-hand coordination, perception, reflexes/reaction, and CQC skills are simply the best. Minato gets outclassed while engaging Gai in CQC, as comparing similar scenarios between the two clearly show, and that is why he loses. Even his FTG V2 doesn't save him because his striking speed is horrible [
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] in comparison to someone who literally strikes fire out of the friction in the air caused by his incredibly fast punch; and easily gets countered. Spreading his kunai around a mid range proximity [
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] gets hard countered by a Hirudora blast. A rasengan or kunai slashes more then likely doesn't even end the fight because Gai's body is hyped up to be as durable as steel (Took a direct super human strength hammer punch from Kisame). Not to mention it's not like Gai doesn't always fight through extreme fatigue or injury due to the after effects of the gates. What does Minato have on Gai, I see nothing.
@Bogard, Good we agreed on the main points and I'm glad you've seen it's not wank.
Didn't anyone bother to read FT's analysis? Frikkin hell that's well broken down. I wonder why people say it's wank when there's evidence to this guy's Perception, Striking speed, Movement Speed, Reaction Speed and CQC capabilities. When there's pure fact that we've been given since. Is it that people just don't want to believe or accept it?
@Bogard, Good we agreed on the main points and I'm glad you've seen it's not wank.
Didn't anyone bother to read FT's analysis? Frikkin hell that's well broken down. I wonder why people say it's wank when there's evidence to this guy's Perception, Striking speed, Movement Speed, Reaction Speed and CQC capabilities. When there's pure fact that we've been given since. Is it that people just don't want to believe or accept it?
Well i could care less about his posts but considering you told me, i tried and it's nothing but BS like i expected. There is so many wrong things in his post that i don't even know where to start. Not that i even want to bother anyway considering the poster and my current situation
Lol Valhorus what?? You're taking this way too serious haha...Someone gives his analysis and then you neg him rather than give reasons why you think he's wrong..Seriously? This guy must be like 7 years or below. Lol What Naruto does to kids...Lay off the lotions Minato makes you buy.
@Bogard...Well you can just post your thoughts then.
