Kishimoto-sensei has always been very poor at devoloping females, but I can also see why Sakura ended up forgiving Sasuke. As Kakashi said, she wanted to 'save Sasuke from the darkness' knowing that he wasn't in his right mind.
I think seeing the good in others and forgiving is a fair redeeming quality.
1-He didn't leave her to die ! If you are referring to the lava dimension
Sasuke was heading towards kakashi and sakura but he saw that they were save(he explained how they got saved which is kishimoto way of showing he saw them) then he quickly ran to save Naruto .
2-Doesn't thank her?
How many times did someone save sasuke? And how many times did sasuke say thank you in his life?
He does thank her .
It was explained over and over that sasuke acted negatively to push them away in order to achieve his goal .
Most his negative moments were him lying pretending that he doesn't care which is not true .
She developed personally,allow me to clarify some things.
At the begining of the story she was a weak girl who couldn't stand on her own two feet,always watched Naruto,and Sasuke lead the way,and had no special talents.She was an excellent student at the Ninja Academy but didn't put her intellect into use outside of school.
In the Forest Of Death she began to take a stand,and instead of being the one who was always protected,she became the one who protected.She watched over Naruto,and Sasuke while they were unconscouis,and she fought for them,aswell as Lee against the 3 Sound Shinobi,on her own.
Later,she meets Tsunade,and really begins developing her skills.She became the 2nd best Medic Ninja in world,mastering the Hyakugou which even Shizune never accomplished despite being Tsuande's student for years.Sakura attained amazing chakra control,allowing her to do the above and become one of the physically strongest characters in the story.Hashirama himself even said her raw power maybe stronger than Tsuande's.
She played a big part in defeating Sasori,and rescueing Gaara.She wrecked that Bigass Boulder that was blocking the entrance to the Akatsuki's hideout,wrecked two of Sasori's best puppets - the main one,and his personal replica puppet (the one of himself),and jumped in front of his sword and took it head on inorder to save Chiyo's life,and if it wasn't for Sakura's antidote,Chiyo would have died.
She was a big help to the alliance,she was the one who figured out that White Zetsu was perfectly transforming into people and were made from Hashiramas cells - she figured out how they were able to transform and told the top SA guys at the HQ,who then formed a strategy to counter it thus saving many lives.
Later she healed everyone by Summoning Katsuya from that special forest place which is faraway,and used her chakra to power them up to heal everyone thus saving more lives,and allowing them to fight longer.She had enough chakra to allow Obito to use Kamui to open portals to multiple far away dimensions too rescue Sasuke,thus leading the world to being saved.
This same girl who was weak,and always relied on others became strong and able to fight alongside the same people who always protected her,Naruto,Sasuke,and Kakashi.
When Kaguya started to dodge Naruto and Sasuke,Sakura was the one who punched her,thus allowing Sasuke and Naruto to land their hands on her to seal her away,thus saving the world.In terms of power,Sakura,in 3 years developed almost as much as Tsunade did her whole life,and Sakura's not even in her prime.I could go on but i'll stop.
1. All she does is get saved by naruto each and every time she fights, the only real fight she had was against sasori and technically chiyo still had to save her a couple of times
2. Sakura's so called "Super strength" has been useless ever since the begging of part 2, the only time i recall of it being of use is when she hit the juubi babies and even then she still had to gave saved.
3. Her attacking kaguya did absolutely no damage
the only thing i agree with is with her being good at healing, but thats still no excuse for her not having any good roles in the story and barely fighting, i know plenty of people who have healing ability's in other manga and still fight and have good character qualities, like i said overall Sakura is a mediocre character
Does this mean you'll stop wanking Sakura in the vs section? Lol
But to answer your thread: To be honest, Sakura is a mediocre character even without the pairings. Romance is not a major part of this manga, even though Kishi may have created an optical illusion that it is, with the gargantuan orgy that occurred in the last chapter. What am I saying? That even if she ended up with Naruto, her character is still not the best, especially given the fact that she's a main. Now, I don't think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are that bad in the context of this manga. The reason being that Sasuke also made multiple attempts on Naruto and Kakashi's life, but they still forgave him after he redeemed himself, and by all accounts are on friendly terms right now. In the real world, such a thing is unrealistic. But in a manga like Naruto about bonds, friendship etc it's not that unusual. Subsequently, Sakura still having feelings for Sasuke isn't that bad within the context of the manga. Is it realistic? No. Is she a good role model for girls? God no. However, it's a fictional story at the end of the day, and I am sure most readers know this. Sakura ending up with Sasuke isn't the worst part of her character IMO, but her other shortcomings(power wise,development wise for a MC etc) mean that her character is very easy to hate on. Carry on.
I find it funny how SasuSaku are trying to justify this paring. You know Sasuke only tried to kill her twice, called her names, try to have her kill someone and genjustu her. Not even mentioning he was part of revving the Juubi a little which killed thousands of people and just tried to take over the world almost killing her other team 7 member. But noooo Lol it was because he said he liked everyone from team 7 and how he apologize and helped unleash IT which he had a small part in doing or she wanted to save him from darkness Lol dem fans make me cry of laughter.
So planning to thrust a poisoned kunai at the back someone unaware of your presence is doing nothing? Ok then. Had her resolve been stronger she would have followed through. She essentially has no right to hold a grudge for sasuke wanting to kill her when she was going to do the exact same thing, dunno why people like leaving that part out.
Does this mean you'll stop wanking Sakura in the vs section? Lol
But to answer your thread: To be honest, Sakura is a mediocre character even without the pairings. Romance is not a major part of this manga, even though Kishi may have created an optical illusion that it is, with the gargantuan orgy that occurred in the last chapter. What am I saying? That even if she ended up with Naruto, her character is still not the best, especially given the fact that she's a main. Now, I don't think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are that bad in the context of this manga. The reason being that Sasuke also made multiple attempts on Naruto and Kakashi's life, but they still forgave him after he redeemed himself, and by all accounts are on friendly terms right now. In the real world, such a thing is unrealistic. But in a manga like Naruto about bonds, friendship etc it's not that unusual. Subsequently, Sakura still having feelings for Sasuke isn't that bad within the context of the manga. Is it realistic? No. Is she a good role model for girls? God no. However, it's a fictional story at the end of the day, and I am sure most readers know this. Sakura ending up with Sasuke isn't the worst part of her character IMO, but her other shortcomings(power wise,development wise for a MC etc) mean that her character is very easy to hate on. Carry on.
When I defended her abilities I used evidence so it wasnt really a feeling thing like with her character. Sakura did improve tremendously in her abilities. I really think she became strong not simply because I liked her.
Again she would have been 10x better if she simply got over Sasuke. Sasuke is the biggest flaw in her character. As she is based around team 7 and pairings.
Kakashi - Lost his Father, never knew his mother, lost his comrades and teacher.
Naruto - Never had any family as a child, not knowing who is parents was throughout most of the series, really had no friends, everyone treated him like a monster, lost his teacher.
Sasuke - Lost his clan to his older brother due to a mission, finds out his brother did it to protect him after Sasuke killed him, after his clan's death he had no friends.
sakura - ........ was a fanboy/love of Sasuke.
So when people say Naruto and kakashi was just as crazy for bringing Sasuke back, they knew his pain because they went through the samething as he did. Sakura didn't have to go through pain other than getting disrespected by a guy the whole series and him leaving and losing a old lady she spent about a day with.
Kishimoto-sensei has always been very poor at devoloping females, but I can also see why Sakura ended up forgiving Sasuke. As Kakashi said, she wanted to 'save Sasuke from the darkness' knowing that he wasn't in his right mind.
I think seeing the good in others and forgiving is a fair redeeming quality.
Kakashi - Lost his Father, never knew his mother, lost his comrades and teacher.
Naruto - Never had any family as a child, not knowing who is parents was throughout most of the series, really had no friends, everyone treated him like a monster.
Sasuke - Lost his clan to his older brother due to a mission, finds out his brother did it to protect him after Sasuke killed him, after his clan's death he had no friends.
Sakura - lost a friend,comrade,teamate to the darkness and never gave up on him no matter how bad things looked.She had the confidence to never give up and go forward rather than be butthurt that things weren't going her way,and giving up on her teamate,friend,and comrade.
Just like when Naruto was dieing after the Kyuubi was extracted from him - Sakura kept trying to save Sasuke from the darkness,and succedded.
Her hardwork and determination succeeds yet again for her comrades,teamates and friends - both Naruto and Sasuke.
Kakashi - Lost his Father, never knew his mother, lost his comrades and teacher.
Naruto - Never had any family as a child, not knowing who is parents was throughout most of the series, really had no friends, everyone treated him like a monster, lost his teacher.
Sasuke - Lost his clan to his older brother due to a mission, finds out his brother did it to protect him after Sasuke killed him, after his clan's death he had no friends.
No, her personal development (mostly strength tbh) throughout part one and most of shippuden was straight up ass. I'm a fan of her character too personally, but her character development is disappointing and the fact that she loves Sasuke has little to do with it because it wasn't Kishi's goal for her in the first place.
Her development wasn't about getting with Naruto, it was simply getting over Sasuke. In the end she did not do that. She could have ended up alone or with anyone, anyone but SASUKE.
How so? Can you prove that Kishi's intent was trying to make her forget about Sasuke?
Like Noto said, she perfectly represents today's society around the world where the "fangirl falls for the bad guy" but it makes sense because Kishi says she represents human weakness.
As everyone has already stated, her ending only shows she has no self respect. No smart girl goes back to the beater. She attacked first but she did not go through with it and he does, twice. Ok he was pretty evil at that point in the summit but even in the war
And no smart guy goes back to who he considers a friend that tried to kill him whenever he got a chance, yet they are still best friends but it's okay? This manga is way more militaristic, violent, and fantasized overall in the first place compared to real life, so for most people it's forgettable unless you're against something specific. Attack/murder attempts came from many sides even if the characters bonds came to good conditions in the end, so is it even worth arguing about?
where Sasuke was pretty sane in the head, he still puts her down and LEAVES HER TO DIE (Remember Kakashi had to save her). Sakura, he left you to die and even after you saved him,
Every character had their attention to the enemy and the war, and to be very honest Sakura was no where to be useful until near Kaguya's death. Also remember this is before Sasuke knew Naruto could fly, and when he dies they fail to win. And I also assume Sasuke's character is smart enough to depend on Kakashi to save the other one.
he THANKS HIS F U C KING ABILITY(Look at the VIZ, he thanks his ability to shift, not Sakura or Obito). He doesnt even thank you for saving his life.
Also a look back at part1 except now he's facing her.
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I mean this panel almost made me cry, like I honestly couldnt believe she did that. Kishimoto really never thought much of her. Continuing to love the guy who did you wrong is not a redeeming quality.
It's not just about love, it's also about saving him from pain, darkness, and insanity. If you think so with Sakura, then you might as well mention that Naruto and the whole focus of this series that you've been trying to read all this time is all bs (which isn't) Sasuke's done wrong to a lot of those around him, mainly because he wanted to end those bonds no matter what.
There isnt much else I can say about the situation. Sakura should have gotten over Sasuke. That would have been great development to her character.
How is that so much of a great development? In the end she accomplished a lot of what she wanted, becoming a healer, bringing Sasuke back (for Naruto too), and being accepted by Sasuke.
Many people view what she did is only for Sasuke and considers as a fangirl, but a lot of it was for her whole team including Naruto.
It would have been a great thing but I simply dont know why Kishimoto ended her character in the way that he did. I guess it will always baffle me. Dont get me started on her in the 700.
Many of us are happy and don't think that her development was thrown out the door, mainly because how we view her accomplishments are different. It's your thought and most who are content with the ending don't care what you think so what's your point with this.. I think this should be posted in the pairing thread and not a separate because it is a pairing topic lol.
I find it funny how SasuSaku are trying to justify this paring. You know Sasuke only tried to kill her twice, called her names, try to have her kill someone and genjustu her. Not even mentioning he was part of revving the Juubi a little which killed thousands of people and just tried to take over the world almost killing her other team 7 member. But noooo Lol it was because he said he liked everyone from team 7 and how he apologize and helped unleash IT which he had a small part in doing or she wanted to save him from darkness Lol dem fans make me cry of laughter.
The people who ship SS don't care about Sakura's character or development. They just like how they "look good together". Those are what we call fake fans. I already see at least two in this thread. Lol
Sakura's character became a total train-wreck when she decided to make love with the very, same person who verbally-abused her on multiple occasions, as well as physical abuse, who even tried to kill her. Honestly, while that forehead-poke was all lovely-dovely, it was unrealistic as f*ck and I see no reason why Sasuke would behave that way. A simple "sorry" would have been enough but no Kishi had to use that trademark poke of Itachi and apply it in that situation, which suggests that Sasuke have more than just sympathetic feelings for her for whatever bs reasons. I see no reason why Sakura would fall in love (romantically) with Sasuke, and vice-versa. The bottom-left panel summed it up perfectly and SasuSaku shouldn't have happened:
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It sh*tted Sasuke's character too. That's just how I feel, though.
Cool,a smart person commented,even i haven't even thought about what you just said.
Fail
Sakura - lost a friend,comrade,teamate to the darkness and never gave up on him no matter how bad things looked.She had the confidence to never give up and go forward rather than be butthurt that things weren't going her way,and giving up on her teamate,friend,and comrade.
Just like when Naruto was dieing after the Kyuubi was extracted from him - Sakura kept trying to save Sasuke from the darkness,and succedded.
Her hardwork and determination succeeds yet again for her comrades,teamates and friends - both Naruto and Sasuke.
A comrade? Was that chiyo? A person she meant for a day? Oh no her crush ran away from her. Had naruto put sakura down like sasuke did throughout the series? Ofc naruto protected her and most if not all of the shinobi world that's why she saved Naruto.
But keep on trying to justify a bad pairing that made Sakura character worst.
A comrade? Was that chiyo? A person she meant for a day? Oh no her crush ran away from her. Had naruto put sakura down like sasuke did throughout the series? Ofc naruto protected her and most if not all of the shinobi world that's why she saved Naruto.
But keep on trying to justify a bad pairing that made Sakura character worst.
That was the only comrade she really lost. His whole point is she never gave up from losing her crush to darkness. Sakura never knew anything about sasuke or the darkness unlike Naruto and Kakashi. So for people to say it makes Kakashi and naruto characters look bad also is complete BS
