Naruto and Sasuke swap places. [Part 1]

[Tantalus Thief]

1. Naruto vs Oro
If Orochimaru is serious, then the fight goes to OrochimaruIf Orochimaru wants Naruto's body and he defeats Naruto then he will lose since the Kyuubi would reject Oro's immortality jutsu.

2/ Naruto vs Jugo/Suigetsu
I gotta go with Jugo/Suigetsu. Unless Naruto sprouts some tails

3. SM Naruto vs Danzo
Frog Song can take out Danzo and his react time can avoid an Izanagi blitz. He has to avoid Danzo's wind attacks.

4. You should have put KCM Naruto in there. Otherwise SM Kabuto wins
+Naruto can't beat Deidara unless he sprouts 4 tails

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Totsuka blitz GG.

Totsuka has nothing to do with the subject of the thread. The guy already said he is not including any battles with Itachi.

 

[TrollKing]

How was that trolling? You questioned Sasuke's genjutsu skill and i post many pages of him using Genjutsu.

What chapter did Karin beat sujusu up in that jugo scan of yours?

 

[HeavenlyFlames]

Scenario 1:
Naruto takes this high difficulty.

Reasoning:​

Orochimaru held his own against 4 Tails in the past, all that while not using his hands frequently. But, then again, he's even weaker state than in that time, and his use of his hands are restricted. (But this fight could potentially go either way.)

Scenario 2:
I give it to Jugo and Suigetsu. High difficulty.

Reasoning:​

Suigetsu held back Bee in his Tailed Beast Mode long enough for Jugo to help Sasuke. So, if they both team against the 4 tails, I see them doing decently well.

Scenario 3:
Deidera

Reasoning:​

No real explanation needed.

Scenario 4:
Naruto wins high difficulty.

Reasoning:​

I believe all Naruto would have to do is use as many clones as he can, and try to force him to use up all the eyes. Then, catching him off guard with a Rasenshuriken or with a normal high leveled rasengan.

Scenario 5:
I think Naruto would take this. High difficulty.

Reasoning:​

Itachi was mostly leading the battle against Kabuto, I think Sage Mode Naruto would be a good enough support for Itachi.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

What chapter did Karin beat sujusu up in that jugo scan of yours?

Chapter 364

And your credibility is now gone.

Why? He questioned Sasuke's genjutsu and i posted scans of him using it.Do you not believe the manga?

 

[ComplexCity]

Chapter 364



Why? He questioned Sasuke's genjutsu and i posted scans of him using it.Do you not believe the manga?

Dude MS Sasuke cannot beat Pain

 

[ninjarasengan]

Naruto

Scenario 1: Base Naruto vs. Armless Orochimaru.

-Naruto can only go up to his 4th tail, Orochimaru is armless.
-Orochimaru's hideout.
-Rasenshuriken restricted. He doesn't know this technique yet.
-Manga intel at the time.
-5-10m starting distance.
-Killing intent.


Scenario 2: Base Naruto vs. Jugo and Suigetsu.

-Jugo is unstable.
-Suigetsu has the Executioners blade.
-Rasenshuriken restricted. He doesn't know this technique yet.
-Naruto can only go up to his 4th tail.
-Manga intel at the time.
-Killing intent.

Scenario 3: Naruto vs. Deidara.

-Deidara unleashes his full arsenal and goes out with a "bang" if necessary.
-Manga intel.
-Naruto can only go up to his 4th tail.
-Deidara has the same amount of clay as when he fought Sasuke.
-Killing intent.

Naruto vs. Itachi

-Skipping this fight. Naruto and Sasuke at this point in time in the manga were both far inferior to Itachi, and it's not debatable.

Scenario 4: Sage Mode Naruto vs. Danzo

-Naruto can go up to his 4th tail.
-Naruto has Ma and Pa as back up, but they cannot attach themselves to his body. At this point in the story, the Kyubi wasn't on good terms with Naruto.
-Danzo has the same number of eyes as his fight with Sasuke.
-Killing intent.
-4 total Sage Mode usage.
-Danzo has intel on Naruto's abilities (he's an elder, it's his job to know). Naruto, however, does not. Naruto has the sideline assistance of Sakura and Kakashi to analyze and aid Naruto when need be, but they're not participating in the fight.

Scenario 5: Sage Mode Naruto & Itachi vs. Sage Mode Kabuto

-Naruto can go up to his 4th tail.
-Naruto has Ma and Pa as back up, but they cannot attach themselves to his body.
-Kabuto is fighting with killing intent. Naruto and Itachi are not.
-4 total Sage Mode usage.
-Manga intel.
-Totsuka and Yata restricted, as it was in the manga.

*No this isn't a bait thread pointing out Naruto. As the title states, this is part 1. I shall do one for Sasuke later on, and he for sure doesn't win every fight Naruto has faced.

*I've restriced Naruto going up to his 8th tail because Minato reset his seal. With that being said, it's unknown just how far a berserk Naruto could've gone. So, I thought the fourth tail was reasonable enough.

Present who you think wins each scenario. And if you have the time, explain why.​

Scenario 1: Base Naruto vs. Armless Orochimaru.
If Naruto is projecting Killing intent then he has to be pissed so Kyuubi chakra is out

During this time Orochimaru's body was rejecting him after his fight with 4tails Naruto...4tails finishes him off


Scenario 2: Base Naruto vs. Jugo and Suigetsu.

Same 4tails

Scenario 3: Naruto vs. Deidara.

again protected by Kyuubi shroud Deidara murked...swings arm shockwave destroys clay birds

Scenario 4: Sage Mode Naruto vs. Danzo
Actually Danzo was looking to control Kyuubi so the Killing intent and going 4tails might backfire...Danzo may win


Scenario 5: Sage Mode Naruto & Itachi vs. Sage Mode Kabuto
you removed Naruto's killing intent.
Naruto doesn't have Sharingan so they get trapped by Tayuya's jutsu...Kabuto might win.

 

[take it easy]

Armless Orochimaru already played with 4 Tails Naruto.I say play because that is what he was doing.

But Oro in hideout was more weaker than when he fought against Naruto on the bridge.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Dude MS Sasuke cannot beat Pain

Sasuke could win with High Diff.3 Pains were wrecked by 1 minute prep time frog Genjutsu yet,Sasuke,who can trap people just from eye contact deosn't have a chance?

Think of the scenario.He's going to put Sasuke in Naruto's position.what was Naruto's position?

-3 bigass Toad helpers
-Intel on Pains abilities
-and Pain couldn't use Shinra Tensei for the first 10-15 minutes of the battle.

So Sasuke will have
-3 bigass Snake helpers
-Intel
-No ST for 10-15

Genjutsu from just eye contact will do alot of damage.

But Oro in hideout was more weaker when he fought against Naruto on the bridge.

Sure he was.How do we know that,that morning,Orochimaru was coughing and stuff in bed,then he went out to play with Team 7? Orochimaru was constantly messed up ever since Hiruzen seales his arms.

Also,Orochimaru used different Abilities against Sasuke than he did with Naruto.He used his White Serpent mode thing,and Paralyzing venoms(poison pretty much)

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Chapter 364



Why? He questioned Sasuke's genjutsu and i posted scans of him using it.Do you not believe the manga?

There was so many things wrong with that post and I won't even bother explaining. If you can't see why at least half of those were irrelevant as to why MS Sasuke beats Pain, then that means you're a lost cause.

 

[ComplexCity]

Sasuke could win with High Diff.3 Pains were wrecked by 1 minute prep time frog Genjutsu yet,Sasuke,who can trap people just from eye contact deosn't have a chance?

Think of the scenario.He's going to put Sasuke in Naruto's position.what was Naruto's position?

-3 bigass Toad helpers
-Intel on Pains abilities
-and Pain couldn't use Shinra Tensei for the first 10-15 minutes of the battle.

So Sasuke will have
-3 bigass Snake helpers
-Intel
-No ST for 10-15

Genjutsu from just eye contact will do alot of damage.



Sure he was.How do we know that,that morning,Orochimaru was coughing and stuff in bed,then he went out to play with Team 7? Orochimaru was constantly messed up ever since Hiruzen seales his arms.

Also,Orochimaru used different Abilities against Sasuke than he did with Naruto.He used his White Serpent mode thing,and Paralyzing venoms(poison pretty much)

Oh, didn't know Ocular genjutsu worked on Pain, considering, you know, Nagato is controlling them

 

[TrollKing]

There was so many things wrong with that post and I won't even bother explaining. If you can't see why at least half of those were irrelevant as to why MS Sasuke beats Pain, then that means you're a lost cause.

Pains are easy. Even kid konohamaru can one shot one. It's nagato that post a difficulty

 

[TrollKing]

Oh, didn't know Ocular genjutsu worked on Pain, considering, you know, Nagato is controlling them

Like pain like naruto, genjutsu is their greatest weakness

 

[ComplexCity]

Like pain like naruto, genjutsu is their greatest weakness

Guess your name is trollking for a reason

 

[TrollKing]

Guess your name is trollking for a reason

As strong as they are, they have absolutely zero genjutsu feat

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

There was so many things wrong with that post and I won't even bother explaining. If you can't see why at least half of those were irrelevant as to why MS Sasuke beats Pain, then that means you're a lost cause.

That's why lol.I made that thread like 1-2 months ago and i just copied and pasted it to show you Sasuke's Genjutsu from throughout the story.I didn't even bother to delete some stuff,and organize/cut out what wasn't essential since i'm on mobile,and am too lazy to do that.

I assume that you are smart enough to know which Genjutsu Feats would apply in MS Sasuke VS Pain which is all the way up til The Danzo fight at the latest.

So Sasuke owning Sai,Manda,Deidera,C,and Danzo with Genjutsu show how he is very capable with it + he easily put Orochimaru in a flashback Jutsu from a glance + broke Free of Itachi's Tsukoyomi and caught Bee in genjutsu which the Hachibi saved him from.

Those show how skilled Sharingan and MS Sasuke is with Genjutsu.He paralyzed multiple characters with a Glance.

That wasn't hard to see.If anything i should be gaining credibility for spoon feeding you two on so much facts.But instead you two spit it out cause you don't like the taste.Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Oh, didn't know Ocular genjutsu worked on Pain, considering, you know, Nagato is controlling them

What Genjutsu resistance feats deos Nagato have? RinneSharingan users are the ones with Genjutsu feats.Normal Rinnegan isn't the RinneSharingan,which has the powers of the Sharingan.

Nagato's Pains individually have shown to be effected by Genjutsu - when the 2 toads caught 3 Pains in Sound Genjutsu from there 1 minute prep attack,each body that heard the song individually got owned,while Nagato didn't because his main body didn't hear it in person.

If Sasuke gets each body in Genjutsu then he will stop Nagato's control of it.And i remember Jiraiya saying Genjutsu was there weakness,and he was proven to be right.

Rinnegan has no Genjutsu feats at all - in terms of casting and blocking it - only the RinneSharingan deos,which Nagato deosn't have.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

That's why lol.I made that thread like 1-2 months ago and i just copied and pasted it to show you Sasuke's Genjutsu from throughout the story.I didn't even bother to delete some stuff,and organize/cut out what wasn't essential since i'm on mobile,and am too lazy to do that.

I assume that you are smart enough to know which Genjutsu Feats would apply in MS Sasuke VS Pain which is all the way up til The Danzo fight at the latest.

So Sasuke owning Sai,Manda,Deidera,C,and Danzo with Genjutsu show how he is very capable with it + he easily put Orochimaru in a flashback Jutsu from a glance + broke Free of Itachi's Tsukoyomi and caught Bee in genjutsu which the Hachibi saved him from.

Those show how skilled Sharingan and MS Sasuke is with Genjutsu.He paralyzed multiple characters with a Glance.

That wasn't hard to see.If anything i should be gaining credibility for spoon feeding you two on so much facts.But instead you two spit it out cause you don't like the taste.Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Lol, you are so delusional. None of those people can touch Pain so what's your point? Orochimaru was weakened. Itachi didn't want to finish him off with Tsukyomi. If he thought it would beat him why would he use it? I would bite the hand that tries to feed me bull shit.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Lol, you are so delusional. None of those people can touch Pain so what's your point? Orochimaru was weakened. Itachi didn't want to finish him off with Tsukyomi. If he thought it would beat him why would he use it? I would bite the hand that tries to feed me bull shit.

Dude,you completely missed the piont. Those were Sasuke's Genjutsu feats througout the story.It didn't matter whether they could beat Pain or not - Sasuke is very skilled with Genjutsu,and those pages clearly showed that.

Maybe you don't believe that even one of the Pains will make eye contact with Sasuke.Maybe you believe that the Pains who were owned by 1 minute prep time Frog Genjutsu would be able to avoid or stop Sasuke's Eye contact Genjutsu. Perhaps you want to believe 2 toads Genjutsu is better than Sasuke,who has mastered Genjutsu.

Sasuke,who was exhausted forcebly controlled Manda and forced him to shield him,and he Paralyzed Sai,C,and KB with a Glance.

What is stopping the pains from making eye contact with Sasuke at anypiont in the battle? Sasuke could easily get them at the very begining before they even start fightining.

Remember what he did to C? He,out of nowhere appeared in front of him while he was distracted.

Lastly,Sasuke breaking out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi also showed that he is good at Genjutsu,yes Itachi let him win the fight but obvoiusly he must have used a powerful enough Tsukuyomi to make Sasuke believe that he was trying to kill him.Based on that we can see it was high Level genjutsu - not his best - but still high level.It had to be,considering how good Sasuke is with it.

Or maybe you don't consider making multiple opponents drop to the ground from a glance as being skilled.