[Discussion] Roger's durability vs WB's quakes...

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So i've been thinking about something. Roger and WB were rivals and WB is the only pirate that ever matched Roger's strength.

This would probably mean that WB and Roger have fought each other alot of times. Now what im wondering is how the hell did Roger survive Prime WB's quakes?

A quake from WB knocked out a giant and temporarily put down Akainu.

Now assuming that WB and Roger indeed were rivals who fought alot this would mean that Roger has eaten a hell alot of WB's quakes right?

Could that be considered a durability feat from him? Roger had eaten quakes yet has been able to continue to fight and tie with WB.

Or do you think that Roger simply dodged every and each one of those quakes?
 

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I'm not a fan of speculation

All that can be said was he was the greatest, so some way or another, he had the upper-hand against WB. Assuming he could just tank the hits, that would really emphasize his prowess, though simply avoiding them and defeating WB would be just as impressive.

Sorry for avoiding the question, but I can't answer.

I'm more partial to him simply avoiding the hits. I feel like he would using he ability to hear the VOAT in order to know when the quakes would almost hit him. He would then dodge and continue fighting.
 

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What I think is that,
It wasn't WB who matched Roger's strength but the other way... They're friendly rivals, so they wouldn't have fought much.
Also, I think that full body CoA can give you greater durability and near immunity to DFs...

And Roger must be a hell of a Haki user...
 

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What I think is that,
It wasn't WB who matched Roger's strength but the other way... They're friendly rivals, so they wouldn't have fought much.
Also, I think that full body CoA can give you greater durability and near immunity to DFs...

And Roger must be a hell of a Haki user...
Friendly rivals my ass have you seen the scars on Whitebeards chest? Lol. Remember when Shanks met up with Whitebeard? exactly. Whitebeard was annoyed just seeing Shanks face because it reminded him of Roger and there past battles XD.
 

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Haki > Devil Fruit

That's why Garp, Shanks and Rayleigh beats 95% of all devil fruit users
Not necessarily if you are a skilled devil fruit user there are ways to avoid haki for example the Admirals are logia type devil fruit users they can intercept and avoid certain Busoshoku haki attacks to avoid any major damage.
 

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Not necessarily if you are a skilled devil fruit user there are ways to avoid haki for example the Admirals are logia type devil fruit users they can intercept and avoid certain Busoshoku haki attacks to avoid any major damage.
But still, Haki > Logia. Law proved it when he whooped smoker's ass. And in the New World, having mastery over Haki is more important than having mastery over devil fruit. And good examples are: Vergo and Chinjao
 

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But still, Haki > Logia. Law proved it when he whooped smoker's ass. And in the New World, having mastery over Haki is more important than having mastery over devil fruit. And good examples are: Vergo and Chinjao
Haki is the most effective means against fighting a devil fruit user yes I am not denying that U_U however the point I am trying to get across is that Haki>Devil Fruit is not always the caseU_U...take the marineford war for instance when Whitebeard stabbed Aokiji with haki through his upper body. That attack should of killed Aokiji but he countered it with his mastery over his logia devil fruit by dispersing his body at the right moment to avoid any fatal injuries. Another case you can look at is when Marco and Vista attacked Akainu with haki...did it kill him? no it did not because his haki was a higher level than theirs he manage to minimize his damage by applying his haki with his devil aswell.
 

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Haki is the most effective means against fighting a devil fruit user yes I am not denying that U_U however the point I am trying to get across is that Haki>Devil Fruit is not always the caseU_U...take the marineford war for instance when Whitebeard stabbed Aokiji with haki through his upper body. That attack should of killed Aokiji but he countered it with his mastery over his logia devil fruit by dispersing his body at the right moment to avoid any fatal injuries. Another case you can look at is when Marco and Vista attacked Akainu with haki...did it kill him? no it did not because his haki was a higher level than theirs he manage to minimize his damage by applying his haki with his devil aswell.
I do believe Whitebeard is not as good haki user as Rayleigh or Shanks. Both Rayleigh and Shanks stopped Kizaru and Akainu respectively, and forced their opponents to retreat. The admirals didn't view Whitebeard as much of a thread during the war, they were bold enough to attack him head on, even taunted him on his face. Not to mention Akainu survived Whitebeard's strongest attack then still had the power to chase luffy. By hype, Garp could have killed Akainu if he was in Whitebeard's place and punched in the same manner
 

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I do believe Whitebeard is not as good haki user as Rayleigh or Shanks. Both Rayleigh and Shanks stopped Kizaru and Akainu respectively, and forced their opponents to retreat. The admirals didn't view Whitebeard as much of a thread during the war, they were bold enough to attack him head on, even taunted him on his face. Not to mention Akainu survived Whitebeard's strongest attack then still had the power to chase luffy. By hype, Garp could have killed Akainu if he was in Whitebeard's place and punched in the same manner
Whitebeard was old(Waay older than rayleigh btw) and on the verge of death so obviously he wouldnt perform as well as someone like Shanks who is in their prime. The admirals did view whitebeard as a threat what are you on about? Whitebeard was the most dangerous person in the whole marineford war even Sengoku and Garp knew that he couldve sank the entire marineford if he wanted. U_U. The Admirals knew that whitebeard was waay past his prime thats why they dare challenged him. Also dont bring up Garp he is all hype no feats so it is pointless mentioning him U_U. Also what you've said about Akainu tanking whitebeards strongest attack at marineford surviving it links back to my earlier statement about haki>devil fruit proves my point. The only reason Akainu survived that attack was because Whitbeards haki was inferior to his own due to Whitbeard being waaay out of his prime and old age.
 

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Whitebeard was old(Waay older than rayleigh btw) and on the verge of death so obviously he wouldnt perform as well as someone like Shanks who is in their prime. The admirals did view whitebeard as a threat what are you on about? Whitebeard was the most dangerous person in the whole marineford war even Sengoku and Garp knew that he couldve sank the entire marineford if he wanted. U_U. The Admirals knew that whitebeard was waay past his prime thats why they dare challenged him. Also dont bring up Garp he is all hype no feats so it is pointless mentioning him U_U. Also what you've said about Akainu tanking whitebeards strongest attack at marineford surviving it links back to my earlier statement about haki>devil fruit proves my point. The only reason Akainu survived that attack was because Whitbeards haki was inferior to his own due to Whitbeard being waaay out of his prime and old age.
Well the admirals were clearly making fun of Whitebeard, they didn't show much fear for Whitebeard's power. Akainu even said "Your time's up Shirohige". Aokiji also took WB head on. It was Sengoku who was apprehensive

Akainu would have fought much better against old WB if he wasn't so arrogant

Whatever, in the end Haki > devil fruit
 

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Well the admirals were clearly making fun of Whitebeard, they didn't show much fear for Whitebeard's power. Akainu even said "Your time's up Shirohige". Aokiji also took WB head on. It was Sengoku who was apprehensive

Akainu would have fought much better against old WB if he wasn't so arrogant

Whatever, in the end Haki > devil fruit
The only reason Akainu attacked Whitebeard was when he was having a heart attack then he decided to confront him Akainu is a coward look at this pic is this the face of someone who doesnt think whitebeard is a threat?
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And haki doesnt always> devil fruit if thats what you think you need to watch one piece again.
 
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The only reason Akainu attacked Whitebeard was when he was having a heart attack then he decided to confront him Akainu is a coward look at this pic is this the face of someone who doesnt think whitebeard is a threat?
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And haki doesnt always> devil fruit if thats what you think you need to watch one piece again.
Told you Akainu got spanked because he was too arrogant and cocky. If he was smart he wouldn't have to make that face. Kizaru played smart and WB couldn't put a scratch on Kizaru

Haki isn't always > devil fruit I agree, but mostly so

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Told you Akainu got spanked because he was too arrogant and cocky. If he was smart he wouldn't have to make that face. Kizaru played smart and WB couldn't put a scratch on Kizaru

Haki isn't always > devil fruit I agree, but mostly so

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I rest my case U_U.
 
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