Rinnegan Obito vs Edo Madara

[Demonic.]

Full intel.

Location: Madara vs Gokage

Restrictions: Paths

Starting Distance: 50 meters

Scenario 2: Paths Unrestricted

 

[Draphsin]

Obito wins both scenarios, I've done this twice before.

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[ARGUS]

Scenario 1: Madara flogs him,

--Mokuton clones and FTW alone would gangbang obito and put him to sleep, nothing more to be said

Scenario 2: Madara wins this high diff

--Mokuryu to restrain the bijuu and prevents them from doing anything at all, as PS can eradicate the bijuu completely, as once they are down, madara uses his mokuton clones to take the stakes out of them,

--Mokuton clones and Flower tree world can then gang bang obito just like scenario 1

 

[Draphsin]

Madara flogs him,

Jesus you seriously underestimate obito don't you?

--Mokuton clones

They get phased through, & madara uses his mokuton clones like

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, thus making him an easy warp target.

If he does decide to join the party, then the

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simply keeps knocking him & his clones back [with the chakra of 7 bijuu this will be possible] until he resorts to using PS. Once PS is out obito warps behind him & ends the match.

and FTW alone would put him to sleep

Easily gets phased through, the GM then cleans up with

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or shockwaves.

--Mokujin prevents the bijuu from doing anything at all,

Scans of madara using mokujin, & in any case are you forgetting about

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little bijuu right here? This guy alone renders all of madara's mokuton useless, including [no, especially] mokujin.

Not to mention the bijuu can change their sizes

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, so a restraint that could once hold a V2 gets crushed when that jin turns into a bijuu, or vice versa & the bijuu reverts to V2 to slip through large restraints. Similar to how BM naruto escaped mokuryuu by dispersing his avatar. Heck some bijuu even have cloaks that can simply melt through the mokuton completely. [

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As obito warps atop chomei he simply sends his bijuu far enough away so that he can safely spam madara with bijuudamas without damaging them.

as madara then uses his PS to eradicate the bijuu completely,

Once PS comes out obito warps inside & takes madara away, & yes he can warp inside of susanoo.

as once they are down, madara uses his mokuton clones to take the stakes out of them,

Chomei isn't getting touched by anything in madara's arsenal that's for sure.

 

[ARGUS]

Jesus you seriously underestimate obito don't you?

Nah u overrate him,

They get phased through, & madara uses his mokuton clones like

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, thus making him an easy warp target.

Too bad that obito cant decipher the clones from the original
Too bad that once he warps, he gets gangbanged from both dimensions,
and resorting to combat without kamui means that madara just rapes him by susanoo,

If he does decide to join the party, then the

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simply keeps knocking him & his clones back [with the chakra of 7 bijuu this will be possible] until he resorts to using PS. Once PS is out obito warps behind him & ends the match.

Lol GM is garbage to PS, when its slashes eradicate the mazo with utmost ease,

even V3 legged susanoos can attack it, through their slashes and YM, especially when gated guys kick alone damaged the GM, and

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and how exactly is obito warping madara once hes inside his susanoo?

Easily gets phased through, the GM then cleans up with

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or shockwaves.

Nope, FTW is not being phased through, when it bypasses obitos 5 minute kamui limit and puts him to sleep,
and Lol and madara would eradicate the mazo before it does shit, or just restrain it with mokuryu,
either way, obito dies

Scans of madara using mokujin, & in any case are you forgetting about

Sorry i meant to say mokuryu

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little bijuu right here? This guy alone renders all of madara's mokuton useless, including [no, especially] mokujin.

Nope, it gets restrained or eradicated by PS

Not to mention the bijuu can change their sizes

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Yeah like the hachibi managed to change his size to counter mokuryu?
ohh wait he didnt despite the fact that bee is a perfect jin,
these bijuus are not kneading chakra as mokuryu sucks them dry, and immobilises them well enough to allow madara to remove their stakes out

so a restraint that could once hold a V2 gets crushed when that jin turns into a bijuu, or vice versa & the bijuu reverts to V2 to slip through large restraints.

Nope, bijuus are not countering it that easily

Similar to how BM naruto escaped mokuryuu by dispersing his avatar. Heck some bijuu even have cloaks that can simply melt through the mokuton completely. [

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Too bad that this feat only applies to naruto, when another perfect jin (bee) failed to counter it,

and i dont think you have enough knowledge herre,

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so that simply gets absorbed, and

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and madara just makes sure that the bijuus are immobilised after he eradicates them with PS
which iis certainly happening

As obito warps atop chomei he simply sends his bijuu far enough away so that he can safely spam madara with bijuudamas without damaging them.

Um,

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the bijuus arre getting smacked around by PS completely when Rinbo hengoku alone had enough power to knock them down,

and please refrain from the fanfic of obito sendiing ALL of his bijuus away with kamui when he doesnt have the reserves to do that,

Once PS comes out obito warps inside & takes madara away, & yes he can warp inside of susanoo.

No he cant,
susanoo is solid, he cant be intangible and warp at the same time,

Chomei isn't getting touched by anything in madara's arsenal that's for sure.

Umm, Rinbo Hengoku knocked it around like a cricket ball,
and PS slashes that cover kilometres and eradicate multiple mountains would wreck it with ease

 

[TRE MERCER]

Obito get raped in scene 1 and stomp in scene 2...

Obito simply replicates Kakashi feat with Hachibi.(

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). Once he warps above Ps he let one of the Bijuu nuke it then allowing air time for his other Bijuu like th 17 tails to come nuke from above as well...

 

[Demonic.]

Obito get raped in scene 1 and stomp in scene 2...

Obito simply replicates Kakashi feat with Hachibi.(

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). Once he warps above Ps he let one of the Bijuu nuke it then allowing air time for his other Bijuu like th 17 tails to come nuke from above as well...

Madara is Edo . He regenerates

 

[Draphsin]

Nah u overrate him,

*Sigh* So thoroughly outlining the feats of a character & presenting them in a logical manner = overrating now? Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm overrating obito, especially since I haven't made any ridiculous claims, & any claims without support.

Too bad that obito cant decipher the clones from the original

Too bad that makes zero difference when the original is standing by himself, away from the clones.

Too bad that once he warps, he gets gangbanged from both dimensions,

Too bad all he has to do when he warps a clone is

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. & As soon as he does that he can immediately impale the clone with chakra rods, thus rendering it useless.

and resorting to combat without kamui means that madara just rapes him by susanoo,

Never once did I say that obito isn't going to use kamui to fight here, he simply doesn't need it to fend off much weaker clones.

Lol GM is garbage to PS, when its slashes eradicate the mazo with utmost ease,

Then how about you read my points before stating something I already know? U_U

GM induces PS, once PS is out obito warps from behind. GM serves nothing more than a distraction to cause madara to use his full power.

even V3 legged susanoos can attack it, through their slashes and YM, especially when gated guys kick alone damaged the GM, and

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Susanoo isn't getting anywhere near it when it can use a shockwave than can knock every lesser version off it's feet.

Plus neither gai's kick nor gyuki's punch caused any damage to the statue, just because he got hit & fell over doesn't mean that susanoo's swords are cutting through it, especially when they couldn't even penetrate gaara's

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The clones are fodder to the GM, madara needs PS to take care of it easily.

and how exactly is obito warping madara once hes inside his susanoo?

First of all susanoo has space which grants the user room to move around in. [

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] Meaning obito has enough space to warp inside.

Secondly, if you don't believe that the jewel atop the PS has space then that doesn't matter in any case, susanoo's chakra isn't solid like stone, therefore when obito warps inside & there's chakra in the way that chakra will simply get pushed away, similar to how the air around obito logically gets pushed away when he warps anywhere.

Susanoo users have shown us that they can move around while inside the jewel, therefore if there isn't space then the chakra will move out of the way for him regardless.

Nope, FTW is not being phased through, when it bypasses obitos 5 minute kamui limit and puts him to sleep,

Obito's limit is completely irrelevant in this fight, obito phases underground

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& escapes the radius of the pollen altogether.

& You need to understand something, nothing can bypass obito's 5min limit while he has the ground beneath him to freely move through. The only reason why konan's trap worked was because obito couldn't use the ground to escape like he has in the past. Since obito can travel under the earth, & since FTW can't reach him underground, he easily escapes any pollen that may possibly harm him.

and Lol and madara would eradicate the mazo before it does shit, or just restrain it with mokuryu,

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Seriously though, mokuton is fodder to the mazou, it can't get close due to shockwaves, & if it does then chakra blasts destroy it like it did the mountain that tried to crush it.

either way, obito dies

Not a chance.

Sorry i meant to say mokuryu

Ok but changes nothing.

Nope, it gets restrained or eradicated by PS

Give me a counter instead of "Lawl, PS restrains/eradicates it" because as I see it right now there is absolutely no way that PS is touching chomei in the air while the other bijuu are spamming him with bijuudamas, & when he can change sizes instantly.

Yeah like the hachibi managed to change his size to counter mokuryu?
ohh wait he didnt despite the fact that bee is a perfect jin,

Not my problem if gyuki didn't do it, he didn't try it. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence & you should know that, just because gyuki didn't do it doesn't mean that the other bijuu can't, so this is irrelevant.

these bijuus are not kneading chakra as mokuryu sucks them dry,

You don't need to knead chakra to disperse your BM, that makes zero sense, & going by your logic naruto shouldn't have escaped.

and immobilises them well enough to allow madara to remove their stakes out

Yet he still can't do a thing about chomei, shame isn't it?

Nope, bijuus are not countering it that easily

And your evidence to support the claim is...?

Too bad that this feat only applies to naruto, when another perfect jin (bee) failed to counter it,

As I said, just because bee didn't attempt to do it doesn't mean that he couldn't have. Bee isn't obito, & bee isn't the standard for what a bijuu can & can't do.

and i dont think you have enough knowledge herre,

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so that simply gets absorbed,

First of all I think it's quite funny how you believe the mokuryuu has enough or an absorption capability to completely render a bijuu useless. [

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Alright, now show me where I ever mentioned that these jutsus were specifically to counter mokuryuu? I said restraints, speaking in general terms. & Madara can only use one mokuryuu anyways, he can't do it with multiple mokuton clones, he can't do it with jukkai kotan, he can only use his susanoo while maintaining the jutsu thus putting him at a severe disadvantage.

If you want to let madara simply use mokuryuu/susanoo to try & deal with all the bijuu then that's fine by me, but don't go & say he can spam mokuton, the dragon, clones, & susanoo all simultaneously, that's fanfic.

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& While madara focuses his mokuryuu to try & absorb all the chakra out of a bijuu, obito warps behind him.

and madara just makes sure that the bijuus are immobilised after he eradicates them with PS

Not happening with the terribly low-level jutsus he has in comparison. Mokuryuu isn't rendering a bijuu useless, jukkai kotan isn't immobilizing anything, FTW gets demolished, & regular susanoo versions get swatted like flies.

Only PS can compete with the bijuu, & you'd be underestimating their power on a grand scale of you don't think so.

Um,

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Do you think I would've even mentioned chomei if I didn't already know this?

Anyways are you forgetting what flight means? It means that the entire sky is fair game, chomei can fly as high/far as he wants, so no matter how far susanoo's sword slashes may reach they aren't getting anywhere near something that can fly as far as it needs to + change it's size [to fly size in comparison] instantly. I'd be like trying to hit a literal fly with a sword, except the fly is really really far away & you can use ranged slashes, but the outcome still remains the same though.

the bijuus arre getting smacked around by PS completely when Rinbo hengoku alone had enough power to knock them down,

Never once compared the bijuu's physical strength to PS, & never once said that they'd hold their own against it. Notice every time I mention madara using PS it's immediately followed up with "then obito warps behind him & ends the match". Once PS comes up, the game is over & the bijuu are irrelevant at that point.

Not to mention obito can just warp all of his bijuu atop chomei's head as jins & dive-bomb each of them down similar to how gyuki attacked the juubi from above. [

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] & Before you say "well obito cant warp his bijuu" then I never said he could, but the time it takes for them to transform & charge a tbb is practically nonexistent, so the same thing can be done albeit with a slight delay.

and please refrain from the fanfic of obito sendiing ALL of his bijuus away with kamui when he doesnt have the reserves to do that,

Clear evidence that you simply underestimate obito, what's stopping him from warping his bijuu once they've reverted back to jins? Nothing is.

No he cant,
susanoo is solid, he cant be intangible and warp at the same time,

Susanoo is not solid, this is a fact, otherwise susanoo wouldn't be able to move.

- Why does susanoo need bones if it's purely made out of solid chakra?

- Why do susanoo bones [solid chakra]

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, but susanoo "flesh"

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like fire [gas]?

- How can susanoo users

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move if the chakra that surrounds them is solid?

Only the outer layer & the bones of susanoo are solid, everything else is malleable chakra that can be pushed away.

Umm, Rinbo Hengoku says hi,

I'm not even...

and PS slashes that cover kilometres say hi,

So now chomei can only fly a few KM away from madara? Scans stating chomei's flight limitations? Otherwise it files far enough away for obito to notice the slashes & avoid promptly, or change the size of the bijuu if need be.

 

[lanakui8]

At first I thought this was juubi jin obito, but just rinnegan?

Madara destroys him in round 1, takes it with mid-high diff in round 2.

 

[Scryed]

I'll go with Edo Madara.

With paths, it's trickier though. Guess I'll give that one to Obito.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Madara wins both scenes

S1- Madara murder rape's

S2- Mokuton will overwhelm Bijuu and then Madara will destroy Obito. Gedo Mazo will be a problem but PS will hold it off

 

[KidGamer65]

At first I thought this was juubi jin obito, but just rinnegan?

Madara destroys him in round 1, takes it with mid-high diff in round 2.

This right here.

Umm, Rinbo Hengoku says hi,

Once again, since when the hell could Edo Madara use Limbo?

 

[ARGUS]

This right here.



Once again, since when the hell could Edo Madara use Limbo?

ofcourse he cant
Lol my bad, what i wrote came out wrong,
all i wanted to state was the rinbo hengoku had enough power to knock the chomei down
PS slashes by feats are superior to Rinbo in terms of DC

 

[Benjamin King]

Scenario 1 - Edo Madara low-mid diff.

Scenario 2 - Edo Madara mid-high diff.

 

[Unorthodox]

Drapshin stay owning shit but

Madara wins both

 

[TRE MERCER]

Madara is Edo . He regenerates

Inb4 he warps his Edo dust...

At first I thought this was juubi jin obito, but just rinnegan?

Madara destroys him in round 1, takes it with mid-high diff in round 2.

Please explain...

Drapshin stay owning shit but

Madara wins both

No explanation?

 

[synkross]

Rennigan Obito is canonically stronger than Edo Madara.

-Kabuto even with all his Edos(including Edo Madara) shitted his pants when Obito threatened him.
-Madara took the back seat when Obito threaten him on the top of Juubi.

By feats Obito can simply bind Madara with chakra chains(that he used to bind 7 bijuu) and then wrap him or take out his soul.
Madara on the other hand has no counter to Kamui whatsoever.

 

[Unorthodox]

Rennigan Obito is canonically stronger than Edo Madara.

-Kabuto even with all his Edos(including Edo Madara) shitted his pants

If you honestly think Kabuto with all his edo loses to rinnegan Obito get slaped

Itachi - amaterasu or totsuka ends half of the bijuu Nagato - chakra rods could end them aswell as\ Jinton from muu Deidara' C0 puts them on their asses kamui is screwed over by multiply clones just to much to overcome and i didnt even mention edo Madara

 

[lanakui8]

Inb4 he warps his Edo dust...


Please explain...


No explanation?

do you want me to explain because you disagree, or just for the sake of explaining?

 

[MadaraReturns]

lol, madara. obito even needed to warn madara that he knows that obito is important for him so that madara wont backstab him. and i dont think that thats justabout betrayal, i think he was also scared of madara himself.