Deidara & Obito vs Minato & Tobirama

[Unorthodox]

Location - Deidara & Obito vs Sasuke
Distance - 65m
Info - Full both sides
Conditions - Deidara starts in the air, This is adult MS obito wrapped in Spiral zetsu but his face is out, Tobirama has 3 edo fodders, Minato is alive.
Restrictions - FANFIC SM, RDS,

 

[blazekev90]

Base Gai would've amde this more interesting.

 

[Zexion~]

Deidara starts in the air? With that perimeter he can already beat both of the other teammates one on one ... Add obito and it gives them a clear victory my man

 

[ARGUS]

Minato and Tobirama win this,

--With edos under tobiramaas control, means that tobirama uses his GKF to eradicate deidara, and with minato having the summons such as gamabunta to close the distance also allows him to crush deidara with Food Cart Destroyer, or allow either of the hokage to mark him

--Obito is non factor here, he stands no chance against either of the hokage, his Kamui is slower than FTG nor is he reacting to FTG, he gets marked the moment he solidifies to attack, as once that happens hes done for

--Full info confirms the hokages win even more,

 

[Penguin]

Team two shits.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Deidara starts on what? Standard bird or v2 dragon

 

[Penguin]

Suidanha would cut straight through the clay and get Deidara. Just swiveling one's head alters the path, so as long as Tobirama sees Deidara, it won't be good. Tobirama would just need to get in range, which won't be that hard.

 

[Demonic.]

Team 2 Rapes. Obito is non factor against not 1, but 2 ftg users.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Deidara and Obito shits... Obito was 13-14 when he lost to Minato if you people don't believe his reaction time and reflexes and Kamui skills improved your sadly mistaken... Plus Deidara can use c0 while Obito stays intangible or use Izanagi for the easy win... How are they surviving Juubi size katon at 65m Plus Deidara has C3 which is village level... Also Minato summonings are taken out via genjutsu...

GFK is useless to an airborn opponent... His water stream is dodged by guided bombs honestly that argument is beyond weak...

Team ftg have no counter for Juubi size Katon,c3,c0,

 

[maniaoqan]

Adult Obito with Spiral you say ? Team 1 rapes so hard it could be considered as genocide.

 

[Demonic.]

Deidara and Obito shits... Obito was 13-14 when he lost to Minato if you people don't believe his reaction time and reflexes and Kamui skills improved your sadly mistaken... Plus Deidara can use c0 while Obito stays intangible or use Izanagi for the easy win... How are they surviving Juubi size katon at 65m Plus Deidara has C3 which is village level... Also Minato summonings are taken out via genjutsu...

GFK is useless to an airborn opponent... His water stream is dodged by guided bombs honestly that argument is beyond weak...

Team ftg have no counter for Juubi size Katon,c3,c0,

1.FTG is still faster than Kamui. Getting tired of the Obito was 14 excuse :|

2. Minato beat him with no Intel. What hope can Obito have if Minato has full Intel?

 

[TRE MERCER]

1.FTG is still faster than Kamui. Getting tired of the Obito was 14 excuse :|

2. Minato beat him with no Intel. What hope can Obito have if Minato has full Intel?

Ftg is faster than Juubito and Juubi Jin Madara yet he still lose an arm... It's all about reaction time... I guess if someone as slow as Tsunade had ftg she could hit Obito to right? When Obito uses Juubi size Katon from the start they have no prepped ftg therefore there roasted...

 

[KidGamer65]

SZ boosts Mokuton prowess. SZ can use Shinsuusenju (at a smaller scale) if he has someone inside of him that can also use Mokuton. Team 1 wins.

 

[Beans2]

SZ boosts Mokuton prowess. SZ can use Shinsuusenju (at a smaller scale) if he has someone inside of him that can also use Mokuton. Team 1 wins.

Tobirama was given three fodder edos in the conditions, 3 GJK should be enough to destroy the Buddha.

OT: Deidara and Obito win for the simple reason that Deidara can use C0 and nuke them all while Obito, being intangible, remains unharmed.

 

[Unorthodox]

Minato and Tobirama win this,

NO!

With edos under tobiramaas control, means that tobirama uses his GKF to eradicate deidara, and with minato having the summons such as gamabunta to close the distance also allows him to crush deidara with Food Cart Destroyer, or allow either of the hokage to mark him

Please tell me how is GFK reaching an airborn deidara and not reaching tobirama when its starts on the ground furthermore deidara is to fast and easily escape its range i see you using this GFK argument all the time without using a proper scenario on how it lands. Minato would need to get above Deidara to use Food cart witch is never happening Once Gamabunta comes anywhere near Deidara is Bombed right out of the

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GG Bunta. They come close and try to mark him clone + Explosion GG.

Obito is non factor here, he stands no chance against either of the hokage, his Kamui is slower than FTG nor is he reacting to FTG, he gets marked the moment he solidifies to attack, as once that happens hes done for
Full info confirms the hokages win even more,

Kamui being slower than Ftg is irrelevant since Obito would not need to warp them to finish them off Mokuton Spikes are enough to kill the latter he could easily go in for the attack and fake them out or only have his hand tangible and shoot his spikes or warp out Giant shurikens and use his Katon effectively especially if he's close the latter would get burnt to a crisp having no ftg bassing the range his katon. Also Obito warping they're marked kunai to litmit they're movements Any Frogs are roasted via Katon or blasted C2 dragon bombs or even Genjutsu.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Minato and Tobirama win this,

--With edos under tobiramaas control, means that tobirama uses his GKF to eradicate deidara, and with minato having the summons such as gamabunta to close the distance also allows him to crush deidara with Food Cart Destroyer, or allow either of the hokage to mark him

--Obito is non factor here, he stands no chance against either of the hokage, his Kamui is slower than FTG nor is he reacting to FTG, he gets marked the moment he solidifies to attack, as once that happens hes done for

--Full info confirms the hokages win even more,

Pretty sure your eating these words right now...

 

[HiddenSound]

Team 2 Rapes. Obito is non factor against not 1, but 2 ftg users.

Calm your hatred.

 

[ARGUS]

Pretty sure your eating these words right now...

Full intel for the FTG users, as well as them having linked markings, and KB and their FTG being faster than Kamui,,
means that obito is certainly a non factor,

NO!

yes

Please tell me how is GFK reaching an airborn deidara and not reaching tobirama when its starts on the ground furthermore deidara is to fast and easily escape its range i see you using this GFK argument all the time without using a proper scenario on how it lands.

Gamabunta helps him land GKF very very easily
furthermore, all GKF really involves is the user throwing paper bombs,
once deidara is within close proximity, this is a very easy job for tobirama,
especially when he has his edos as well as the fact that he doesnt need to restrain deidara to kill him with GKF,

Minato would need to get above Deidara to use Food cart witch is never happening Once Gamabunta comes anywhere near Deidara is Bombed right out of the

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GG Bunta. They come close and try to mark him clone + Explosion GG.

Umm what? where are u getting this from,
Food Cart Destroyer is a summoning jutsu, minato uses his hand seals,to perform it, and can land him where ever he wants to,
and Deidara gets crushed by the toads
him attempting to blow up the toad would just mean that he himself is within the bomb radius,

Kamui being slower than Ftg is irrelevant since Obito would not need to warp them to finish them off Mokuton Spikes are enough to kill the latter he could easily go in for the attack and fake them out or only have his hand tangible and shoot his spikes or warp out Giant shurikens

To land the mokuton spikes obito actually has to touch the opponent,
and based on the fact that FTG is faster than Kamui,, as well as the hokages reflexes being faster means that obito is not tagging them before they tag him,
his mokuton spikes are also slower than Kamui, meaning that he would get tagged much easily if he resorts to that method of combat,

the hokages having full intel as well as the fact that they can link their markings and have KB means that obito stands no chance

and use his Katon effectively especially if he's close the latter would get burnt to a crisp having no ftg bassing the range his katon.

If hes close then he just teleports behind obito to escape the directional katon, and mark him,
once that happens, obito dies,

Also Obito warping they're marked kunai to litmit they're movements Any Frogs are roasted via Katon or blasted C2 dragon bombs or even Genjutsu.

Frogs are not affected by Katon at all, and they can be broken out of genjutsu through partner method where tobirama or minato wwould be able to sense the disturbance in chakra,
as for C2 dragon bombs, like i said, Food Cart Destroyer crushes deidara, and he gets marked

 

[Unorthodox]

Full intel for the FTG users, as well as them having linked markings, and KB and their FTG being faster than Kamui,,
means that obito is certainly a non factor,

All useless witch is about to be proven by my giving arguments.

Gamabunta helps him land GKF very very easily
furthermore, all GKF really involves is the user throwing paper bombs,
once deidara is within close proximity, this is a very easy job for tobirama,
especially when he has his edos as well as the fact that he doesnt need to restrain deidara to kill him with GKF,

Gamabunta doesnt help land a thing Gamabunta jumps up deidara fly down or simply stays out of Bunta's jumping range

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I still dont see how gamabunta helps really he will not be willing to risk his life to use a pointless tech he will need to catch deidara or will need to atleast land one paper bomb on Deidara in that isnt happening Deidara bombs can intercept them blowing them up before he can fully use the jutsu furthermore when one bomb hits the edo they explode in Tobirama's face considering they have burnt tags all through they're bodies. If Deidara cannot get out of the range Tobirama doesnt either unless he wants to risk himself obito could also warp on deiara bird and roast Gamabunta trying to jump to Deidara.

Umm what? where are u getting this from,
Food Cart Destroyer is a summoning jutsu, minato uses his hand seals,to perform it, and can land him where ever he wants to,
and Deidara gets crushed by the toads
him attempting to blow up the toad would just mean that he himself is within the bomb radius,

1. It lands on whatever it is summoned above or on top of
2. The jutsu is not landing on someone miles in the sky

Deidara being that high could easily fly down then around the toad bombing while doing so Food cart is not a question in this matchup.

To land the mokuton spikes obito actually has to touch the opponent,
and based on the fact that FTG is faster than Kamui,, as well as the hokages reflexes being faster means that obito is not tagging them before they tag him,
his mokuton spikes are also slower than Kamui, meaning that he would get tagged much easily if he resorts to that method of combat,

Stop stop your horrible at debating FTG users you act as if your not as fast as FTG witch no one is your not touching them. Obito can easily touch them he after all his mokuton

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he easily rushes them or constantly shoot mokuton spikes from his body

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would make it nigh impossible to attack him they're not bypassing his Katon Aoe either. Obito could easily fight distance they're never tagging him as they wont know witch parts

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meaning they would not be so quick to attack when they know a wood spikes could easily get them also tagging spiral zetsu obito is useless that part breaks off and is replaced with new Mokuton.

the hokages having full intel as well as the fact that they can link their markings and have KB means that obito stands no chance

Kage bushin are tooken out with giant katon with shurikens simple to

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If hes close then he just teleports behind obito to escape the directional katon, and mark him,
once that happens, obito dies,

Why would Obito use his katon while a kunai or a marked spot is right behind him. Also turning his head right around counters that or even just having his lower face in the kamui dimension using mokuton spikes from his body constant is also a counter.

Frogs are not affected by Katon at all,

Going to need some sort of explanation to why this would be true.

and they can be broken out of genjutsu through partner method where tobirama or minato wwould be able to sense the disturbance in chakra,
as for C2 dragon bombs, like i said, Food Cart Destroyer crushes deidara, and he gets marked

Once genjutsu is place Obito would make the frog dodge all the efforts to try to rescue it or just make it kills itself also its speculation that partner method could work when obito is notorious for putting a perfect jin under his control for long periodes of times. Bunta is killed off easily by either one i already shitted on the food cart argument read above.

 

[synkross]

Obito solos, adult obito is far more experienced with kamui..... Minato foguht a 14yr old kid. Full intel means Obito knows about ftg v2 of Minato.
Tobirama doesn't have ftg v2 so hell get fked 1st, then Minato.

Adult Obito has been shown to be far more cunning and strategic in battle.

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With Diedara on Obi's side this is a low difficulty win for the duo.