[Discussion] [Definite proof] There won't be any Tobidara reveal

[minamoto]

That is actually funny because what you said is the exact same argument I used against him a year ago lol.

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[Wesker]

there's still the last movie and mini part 3 ....hahaha the manga iss til not over....UNTILL THE LAST PANEL OF MANGA I SHALL BELIEVE IN TOBIDARA!!....UNTILL IT GETS REVEALED !

Anyway... You were my favorite troll on this website. Never forget that.

One day people will just stop making threads and cool off of their their Naruto interest, but you will always be remembered!

 

[minamoto]

Anyway... You were my favorite troll on this website. Never forget that.

One day people will just stop making threads and cool off of their their Naruto interest, but you will always be remembered!

one day when tobidara gets revealed poeple will realize that Minamoto was no troll...but just a truth spreader.....the only trolls here are you alts...you keep creating alts just to harass minamoto becuz minamoto always destruct your logic

 

[Draxus]

I thought the Tobidara Theory was impossible to prove because it didn't make any sense. Now you are proving it does not make any sense after the Manga has ended?

It is literally an exercise in futility.

 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

when tobidara is revealed, arnt you going to feel like a fool

 

[Mr Hiru]

-Obito never wanted to revive Madara with Rinnetensei...he wanted to take the MEP for himself.....But old Madara already accounted for the possibility of Bobito's betrayal...thats why sealed another part of himself (tobidara) inside obito's body to carry on the MEP by himself untill he gets his original vessel (rikudo Madara revived).......

- Madara 'created' BZ before part 2 took place.

- Obito met Nagato before part 2 took place.

- BZ had Madara's body, he could control other zetsus to retrieve it (that's how Kabuto got access to this body)

...it is common sense. I connected the pieces and found out that the best course of action for MEP being executed by the true Madara was to revive Madara before part 2 took place, using his other instance, Tobidara.

Your suppositions were that BZ/Zetsus were created by Madara, and that Obito was being controlled by Madara.

So what you speak about "Obito never wanted to revive Madara" doesn't make sense, because Obito was being controlled (Tobidara)... or not, minamoto? I'm using your own suppositions to reach this conclusion.

So, there you have it.

If the suppositions were truth,

-Obito never wanted to revive Madara with Rinnetensei...he wanted to take the MEP for himself.....But old Madara already accounted for the possibility of Bobito's betrayal...thats why sealed another part of himself (tobidara) inside obito's body to carry on the MEP by himself untill he gets his original vessel (rikudo Madara revived).......

this quote is a clear contradiction to these suppositions. Ergo, there is no Tobidara at all.

 

[Byron123]

- Madara 'created' BZ before part 2 took place.

- Obito met Nagato before part 2 took place.

- BZ had Madara's body, he could control other zetsus to retrieve it (that's how Kabuto got access to this body)

...it is common sense. I connected the pieces and found out that the best course of action for MEP being executed by the true Madara was to revive Madara before part 2 took place, using his other instance, Tobidara.

Your suppositions were that BZ/Zetsus were created by Madara, and that Obito was being controlled by Madara.

So what you speak about "Obito never wanted to revive Madara" doesn't make sense, because Obito was being controlled (Tobidara)... or not, minamoto? I'm using your own suppositions to reach this conclusion.

So, there you have it.

If the suppositions were truth,



this quote is a clear contradiction to these suppositions. Ergo, there is no Tobidara at all.

That's exactly what I was saying for a year XD Still it's nice to see that think like me.

 

[minamoto]

- Madara 'created' BZ before part 2 took place.

- Obito met Nagato before part 2 took place.

- BZ had Madara's body, he could control other zetsus to retrieve it (that's how Kabuto got access to this body)

...it is common sense. I connected the pieces and found out that the best course of action for MEP being executed by the true Madara was to revive Madara before part 2 took place, using his other instance, Tobidara.

Your suppositions were that BZ/Zetsus were created by Madara, and that Obito was being controlled by Madara.

So what you speak about "Obito never wanted to revive Madara" doesn't make sense, because Obito was being controlled (Tobidara)... or not, minamoto? I'm using your own suppositions to reach this conclusion.

So, there you have it.

If the suppositions were truth,



this quote is a clear contradiction to these suppositions. Ergo, there is no Tobidara at all.

your counter-arguments are all fodders.....


-lets say that black zetsu is Madara's will (wich from madara's perspective is true)...if so then why would Madara treat b.zetsu as his pawn and tool??......black zetsu being Madara's Will...doesn't mean that b.zetsu is another version of Madara...it simply means that he is pawn snitch of Madara....Madara himself called black zetsu with his name black zetsu and always seem to scold him ...like when he was being late to bring his rinnegan from obito........

-now listen Madara is not dumb stupid to just die and trust a 13 years kid called obito with the MEP....The only one Madara could trust is himself.....Madara created the b.zetsu to keep an eye on obito....also in case obito gets stronger in the futur,Madara knew that b.zetsu will not be able to stop him.....so the best guarantee for Madara is use his other part tobidara and seal it within obito's body.....

-Tobidara is 100% Madara...but he is a weaker Madara .....i dont know by what freaaakin thechnique Tobidara was born...but after analyzing the Manga i learned 2 things :

1)- The Rikudo/Edo Madara is the original vessel of Tobidara : thats why kishi depicted us the edo and rinne Madara as a very badass and strong shinobi...its Madara's true body ...hence rikudo Madara represents strenght and badassery

2)- Tobidara is the empty shell of Madara....its as if he is Madara but not in his reall vessel (edomadara)...he is using another vessel (obito) and controlling him UNTILL HE GETS HIS REALL VESSEL RIKUDO MADARA REVIVED !!...Tobidara is more mastermind and masterevil then rikudo madara..


now what do these all mean??...it simply mean that though old Madara died...but in truth he did not die...becuz his other part is still alive contolling obito...

-the opration of rinnetensei revival was to rejuvenile Tobidara's old weak body that died and left obito the MEP.....


tobi was gonna be revealed to be uchiha Madara...but that damnn kabuto ruined everything why?...becuz kabuto resurected the rall vessel of tobidara in the 6th coffin...hence Tobidara had to change his plan and let obito act by his free willl....

 

[minamoto]

That's exactly what I was saying for a year XD Still it's nice to see that think like me.

btw your thoughts never interested me since they are fodders and dont contain logic in them

 

[lndra]

Minamoto is irrelevent. Tobidara is a joke.

Can we move on, now?

 

[Byron123]

btw your thoughts never interested me since they are fodders and dont contain logic in them

And who said that yours interested me? XD It's just funny for me to see Hiru saying the exact same things I used to say a year ago. Ofc since then I realized that there was no point in discussing with you any further but I find it still amusing.

 

[minamoto]

And who said that yours interested me? XD It's just funny for me to see Hiru saying the exact same things I used to say a year ago. Ofc since then I realized that there was no point in discussing with you any further but I find it still amusing.

Nooo!...im fed up with you KID !!!....in every thread i see you speaking behind my back like fvckiin pu$$y saying things like "..ohh that minamoto's retarded tobidara theory.." and bla bla bla...for your infos..My tobidara theory > all your threads...and im not like you who keep PMing members and beging them to leave comments in his threads...IM HERE TO DEFEND MY THOUGHTS AND MY OPINONS...i belive in tobidara since 4 years....the manga isn't over...kishimoto skipped many plots and mysteries on purpose....he skipped them to part 3 and tobidara is one of these skipped mysteries....only wise poeple would agree with me on this points...


- you are all kids .... im 25 years old....im older then you phisically and mentaly and spirituallly...SO NEXT TIME WHEN YOU SEE ME POST A THREAD LEAVE ME ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[minamoto]

Minamoto is irrelevent. Tobidara is a joke.

Can we move on, now?

you are the true joke in here...

you are an altroll....just look at the date your registred...YOU ARE JUST A TROLL MEMEBER WHI IS HIDING BEHIND AN ALT AND HARASSING OTHER SMART MEMBERS LIKE MINAMOTO....to me you are nothing but fodder !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so stay fodder forever !!

 

[Mr Hiru]

Nooo!...im fed up with you KID !!!....in every thread i see you speaking behind my back like fvckiin pu$$y saying things like "..ohh that minamoto's retarded tobidara theory.." and bla bla bla...for your infos..My tobidara theory > all your threads...and im not like you who keep PMing members and beging them to leave comments in his threads...IM HERE TO DEFEND MY THOUGHTS AND MY OPINONS...i belive in tobidara since 4 years....the manga isn't over...kishimoto skipped many plots and mysteries on purpose....he skipped them to part 3 and tobidara is one of these skipped mysteries....only wise poeple would agree with me on this points...


- you are all kids .... im 25 years old....im older then you phisically and mentaly and spirituallly...SO NEXT TIME WHEN YOU SEE ME POST A THREAD LEAVE ME ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

Your logic is flawed, there is no reason for Madara to control Obito and create a will. That is contradictory again. He should have just controlled both Zetsus and Obito... but now you're adapting things so Madara could have half-assed control over the zetsus (which you call Madara's will) and perfect control over Obito (which you call Tobidara), just to justify the existence of Tobidara?

Sorry, but no. That's a way too complex plan.

If Madara really had Madara's will over the zetsus, it's quite dumb to think that Madara would reveal against himself in the form of his will. It is also dumb to think that Madara would put in risk MEP until the point that he was defeated.

It is impossible to say that Obito was controlled. If this was the case, Obito had to convince Nagato to revive Madara before part 2. You can't disprove this logic, because it is based in your own suppositions!

So, sorry, but even if you're 25, you still are way too naïve. And I'm 26. So what?

 

[minamoto]

Your logic is flawed, there is no reason for Madara to control Obito and create a will. That is contradictory again. He should have just controlled both Zetsus and Obito... but now you're adapting things so Madara could have half-assed control over the zetsus (which you call Madara's will) and perfect control over Obito (which you call Tobidara), just to justify the existence of Tobidara?

Sorry, but no. That's a way too complex plan.

If Madara really had Madara's will over the zetsus, it's quite dumb to think that Madara would reveal against himself in the form of his will. It is also dumb to think that Madara would put in risk MEP until the point that he was defeated.

It is impossible to say that Obito was controlled. If this was the case, Obito had to convince Nagato to revive Madara before part 2. You can't disprove this logic, because it is based in your own suppositions!

So, sorry, but even if you're 25, you still are way too naïve. And I'm 26. So what?

its useless to talk you all ...im leaving this thread bye

 

[Mr Hiru]

its useless to talk you all ...im leaving this thread bye

You can just run from me, but not from the flaws on your own logic.

Bye, mister minamoto.

You soloed yourself with this last answer.

 

[minamoto]

You can just run from me, but not from the flaws on your own logic.

Bye, mister minamoto.

You soloed yourself with this last answer.

ok what kestions you want me to answer you ..be short and straight to the point

 

[Angelic.]

stop talking about this shit.

 

[Malekite]

So ... this thread answered the question i asked you last Monday.

the question was: "What will you do when your theory is proven false by the end of the mange" (Spin it however you want ... Naruto Shippuden is over ... therefore the manga is over)

the answer to my question is ... "I will keep believing i was right regardless of what anyone says and regardless of the manga ending without seeing my theory materialize"

You should work on that son ... cant be easy living a life where you believe your own delusions.

Malek.

 

[Mr Hiru]

ok what kestions you want me to answer you ..be short and straight to the point

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The original plan was for Obito to convince Nagato to revive Madara using the Rinne Tensei.

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No doubt about it, Madara himself is confirming this.

Both Obito and Zetsus knew the location of Madara's body

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...this was the start of everything.

Under the logic that Nagato had to do the dirty work, there was no need to completely convince Akatsuki to hunt the bijuu, nor Obito to sacrifice himself... all he needed was to convince Nagato to revive Madara in the right time, just as Madara stated.

...why didn't Obito use Nagato to revive Madara before part 2, when Obito was supposedly being controlled by Madara?

That's the big question about the Tobidara's theory right now. If this question can't be answered, the whole theory doesn't make sense.