[Discussion] Doflamingo vs Vergo

[Bogard]

Not really a versus. I just want to know the general consensus around the amount of difficulty Vergo can give to Doflamingo. Due to the fact we still don't properly know the counter to parasite, also assume it plays no role in this fight(so useless against Vergo for one or another reason). So:

Scenario1 How much difficulty do you think Vergo can give Doflamingo in an unrestricted fight?
Scenario2 Doflamingo can't use the ito ito fruit ability. Who wins?

Also,

Stats comparison(physical strength)

Vergo

Defensive feats:

- Tanked DJ to the chest with no damage, most likely with tekkai activated judging by Sanji's statement
- Took DJ to the face with little damage
- Took a Hardened rocket punch to the face with moderate damage

Offensive feats:

- Cracked Sanji's leg with a kick
- Dealt considerable damage to Law with elbow smashes, kicks and a staff swipe to the head, using Hardening
- Tore Smoker's Hardened jutte clean in two with a heavy staff blow, using Hardening

Doflamingo

Defensive feats:

- Tanked a explosive cannon ball at point blank range, most likely with Hardening
- Blocked DJ with no damage
- Blocked a DJ barrage with his coat cringing slightly
- Blocked a Jet Gatling completely with his coat using Hardening
- Took a Red Hawk(an attack that finished multi-steroid boosted Hordi) to the stomach with little damage

Offensive feats:

- Punched Luffy in the face doing moderate damage, using Hardening
- Kicked Law in the face doing moderate damage, presumably using invisible Haki
- Kicked through Luffy's hardening(with his own) while dealing little to moderate damage

These are the respective physical feats comparison between Doflamingo and Vergo(you're free to give more thoughts on this if you can). Looking at this though:

1- Who do you think is the physical strongest?
2- Who has better haki?

 

[NarutoBmx33]

I'd say that Scenario 1, Doffy wins low-mid diff.
Scenario 2, Doffy wins mid-high.

 

[Apêx1]

Vergo is definitely physically stronger and has better Haki.
Edit: Gives Dofla mid diff in a fight and wins with ito ito restricted, I believe.

 

[Bogard]

Vergo is definitely physically stronger and has better Haki.
Edit: Gives Dofla mid diff in a fight and wins with ito ito restricted, I believe.

I actually think Dofla is better in both Haki and Physical Strength. Both their encounter with Sanji, Vergo was kicked to the wall(with DJ) with blood cough up. Doflamingo blocked Sanji's DJ barrage attack without even being pushed an inch away and with no damage

 

[Apêx1]

I actually think Dofla is better in both Haki and Physical Strength. Both their encounter with Sanji, Vergo was kicked to the wall(with DJ) with blood cough up. Doflamingo blocked Sanji's DJ barrage attack without even being pushed an inch away and with no damage

His leg wasn't burned at all, so he was using invisible armament. And that comparison doesn't really work either, how do you compare them kicking each other and one being kicked without defending against it? In terms of CoA utilisation, Vergo trumps anyone, so I put him slightly above Dofla in terms of Haki. In terms of physical strength, I guess it's subjective. Dofla usually counters with his own attacks, whereas Vergo usually doesn't do so, so making a direct comparison is rather hard. The fact he blocked the Jutte like that still makes me iffy about it, but I guess Dofla is probably above.

 

[Zorø]

I think Doffy can mid diff Vergo U_U.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

Doflamingo can Mid-Diff Luffy or Law individually, which means he can Easy-Diff Vergo.

Scenario 1 he wins Easy-Diff.
Scenario 2 he wins Mid-High Diff.

 

[Anduril]

Considering the treatment he got at the hands of law, I would say low to mid diff.

 

[Hexuze]

S1: Doflamingo mid diff.
S2: Vergo high diff. or even mid.

 

[-Akuma-]

DD is smacking Law and Luffy about, Vergo pushes him low-dif.

 

[A v i]

S1: Low-Mid dif.

S2: Mid dif.

Joker wins both.

 

[Bogard]

Considering the treatment he got at the hands of law, I would say low toth mid diff.

It was a harder fight than what you seem to think. One hit fights aren't always the easiest. The Ryuma vs Zoro battle or Zoro vs M1 battle are examples of this. Not to mention you must also take in the opponent factor here. Law's ability can bypass durability. Doffy doesn't possess Law's abilities. The mindset could also play a role

S1: Low-Mid dif.

S2: Mid dif.

Joker wins both.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Fireplay]

1. DD Low-diff
2. DD mid-high diff

 

[TheHokage]

S1: Doflamingo mid diff.
S2: Vergo high diff. or even mid.

This is the most logical answer.

 

[silmarill]

Why didn't u mention Doffy taking a Red Hawk and getting up like nothing happened ? As defensive feat..
He had his guard down took it without haki and got knocked back a few meters max
Vergo flew into a wall against an attack that is much weaker

IMO Doffy has better physical strength as well as haki

 

[Bogard]

Why didn't u mention Doffy taking a Red Hawk and getting up like nothing happened ? As defensive feat..

Look again

Doflamingo

Defensive feats:

- Tanked a explosive cannon ball at point blank range, most likely with Hardening
- Blocked DJ with no damage
- Blocked a DJ barrage with his coat cringing slightly
- Blocked a Jet Gatling completely with his coat using Hardening
- Took a Red Hawk(an attack that finished multi-steroid boosted Hordi) to the stomach with little damage