[Question] Are these moves from sanji asspull?

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So he just creates flames??
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I think it's Haki related but Oda hasn't explained them yet
 

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It seems like you've skipped the Enies Lobby arc.
 

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There are different types of Haki Luffy did something similar with his Red Hawk. Just look at this video [ ] here of Rayleigh's explanation.
 

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You people are talking about Haki but he used this before he learned Haki... before the time skip
 

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Diable Jambe isn't asspulled. Hell Memories is however. It makes no sense whatsover and i don't even see the point battle-wise for someone who only uses his feet in combat
 

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Those flames are either caused by friction from spinning or they are something like the manifested flaming passion of his heart, I can't remember which.
 

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There's no evidence to prove that so It's still a possibility.

If he could use haki before the time skip he would've held he's own against Enel and Aokiji , but lost neg diff to both , meaning he couldn't use Haki before training with Ivankov
 

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I'm sorry... Can i laugh? :shy:

Jk, jk. I always thought the last word in this thread's title was taken from certain section but let's put that aside :rolleyes:

What Yo Momma San have meant is if you do read the Enies Lobby arc, you should know where it's originally derived from. Do you think Sanji's Diable Jambe is an asspu--- no, is being pulled out of nowhere that moment when he fights Jyabra? I thought we have discussed about this way back, explaining why his feet can generate fire etc.

Sanji's techniques you watch in Fishmen Island are the advanced ones, why it would be an assp-- a technique that have gotten out randomly?
 

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Diable Jambe isn't asspulled. Hell Memories is however. It makes no sense whatsover and i don't even see the point battle-wise for someone who only uses his feet in combat

HM is for comic relief right?
 

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You mean my favorite arc? No. But you sound like you know the explanation so please explain?

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He spins his legs at high speeds and heat up due to friction.

@ People saying it's haki, I think Oda stated in an SBS that was when he was underwater and the DJ was still active it was because of his fighting spirit (haki). Or maybe Oda stated that Sanji doesn't hurt himself when using DJ because of his spirit. I'm too lazy to check.
 
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HM is for comic relief right?

Nope. It's probably an exaggeration from an honest, anger feeling. Well, yeah... a little bit of that too.
 
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If he could use haki before the time skip he would've held he's own against Enel and Aokiji , but lost neg diff to both , meaning he couldn't use Haki before training with Ivankov

Sanji never showed signs of developing Haki when they were fighting Enel or Aokiji.
He developed Diable Jambe after that. I think that Sanji's Diable Jambe and Zoro's Asura are Haki different from Arnament, Observation or Conquering king's Haki.

I think Oda will expand upon Haki abilities in the future and then Sanji and Zoro's abilities would make more sense.
 

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Are you sure its your favorite arc?
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He spins his legs at high speeds and heat up due to friction.

@ People saying it's haki, I think Oda stated in an SBS that was when he was underwater and the DJ was still active it was because of his fighting spirit (haki).

I'm pretty sure I've seen him use it a few times without spinning
 
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