[Discussion] Reasons and Explanations as to why the ending was bad?

BakaaNaruto

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I don't think you see why people have a problem with the ending. Let me put some perspective on why both Naruto and Sasuke lovers hate this ending. If I missed anything, post it so we can have an updated list on why the ending was so bad. You are intitled to your opinion and this is a thread for discussing why the ending was bad not good. <---


Sasuke's fan Problems with the manga
He ends up with Sakura, arguably the lowest quality female in the manga (at least physically and psychologically), and not Karin: a girl who he shared blood and joy with.

(However, not sure if the shippers of that couple realize that it is no different than that Sasuke and Sakura's pairing in which Sasuke has tried to kill both of them).

But not all fans give two sheets about the pairings and would have preferred Sasuke to be

1) the dark knight who protects from the shadows

2) the hokage as I wished too (implying naruto would follow the same path as Jiraiya and the Sage in teaching the ways of peace as a traveler)

3) he doesn't end up with any of these horribly written girls

4) got his arm back like how Naruto did, but for some reason not Guy

5) he dies a hero after bringing everyone back to life and undoing the seal with naruto

6) and for fuss sakes let the people know of the good Itachi did for the village.



Some Naruto fan Problems with the manga
1)The ending of the manga with couples every where is too childish to say the least for them.

2)Some fans might have wanted a better display of abilities in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight.

3)Some might have wanted Naruto to actually kill Sasuke.
4)Some of you wanted him to continue a path much like Jiraiya and the Sage. Some of you might have actually wanted Naruto and Sasuke to be a couple.

5)Some of you are probably still angry that he doesn't have a rinnegan.

6)Some of you wanted naruto to end up with Sakura.

7)Some of you were happy with naruto passing away as a hero.

8)Some fans might have wanted Naruto to become the 6th hokage, because kakashi is a joke.





Naruto and Sakura shippers problem with the manga

Naruto grew UP, matured out of his crush for Sakura even though he "loved" her and couldn't bring himself to confess to her until he fulfilled his promise of bringing Sasuke back. Although he "matured" (which still doesn't give any reasonable explanation as to why he would stop liking a girl he has spent years with and often tried to go out on dates with for a girl who he has LITTLE to no romance with) the fans of Naruto and Sakura pairing would have been fine with him not ending up with Hinata. However, that isn't the case and what makes matters worse is that she ends up having a kid with Sasuke (a guy who has repeated tried to kill her and didn't give 2 shits about her surviving during the entire war arc). That is one problem for how the manga ended for Naruto and Sakura shippers.


On another note, we have all taken Naruto to be the one that ends to cycle of many things. Let us start with Tsunade and Jiraiya. Jiraiya was seemingly weaker than oro and had a big crush on Tsunade for the longest time. Tried to date her for years, but was always rejected. However, before his departure to do some investigation on pain he spent some quality time with Tsunade to say his goodbye. At the scene Tsunade says when you come back you wont have to act all tough anymore for me (Hinting at her acknowledgement for Jiraiya's feelings and a possible relationship). What do you know? He dies, and she's dreaming about some fodder now. Then we had Obito and Rin. Obito liked her, even kakashi knew this, but she liked kakashi the seemingly stronger one but he didn't care for her feelings (similar to the next couple). What do you know? He dies, and only when he sees her in the afterlife does she acknowledge his feelings. Now with Naruto you would expect him to (logically) to break this cycle of rejection with who he liked since he was a kid and spent most of his years with, but that doesn't happen. Although outside adults viewing their relationship hinted at sakura's feelings throughout the manga, naruto doesn't break the cycle. In fact he's with a girl who we can only wait to see what kind of bs kishi pulls out in the upcoming movie to explain their relationship. On top of that, Sakura ends up having a kid with Sasuke (a guy who has repeatedly tried to kill her and didn't care about her surviving the war this entire time). This is another problem with how the manga ended for Naruto and Sakura shippers.






Some other problems with the manga
The ending with all the pairings speak for themselves.
1)Not to mention choji, Ino, Sai, etc.

However, some of those couples everyone seems to be perfectly fine with (Shikamaru and temari).

2)The laptop in naruto's hand in chapter 700 is stupid as fawk.

3)The fact that some of you didn't want naruto to be hokage is another reason you hate the ending.

4)The FACT that there are still SOOOOO many questions still not answered throughout the manga is probably the most bothersome issue with how the manga ended.

5) Something about a tobidara theory

6) WTF happens with some members of Taka, Oro, Kabuto, and other characters.


Did i miss anything with what your particular problem is with the ending of the manga? Let me know.
 

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What you mention in "Naruto Fans" I don't have a problem with any of those. I liked how everything turned up. The laptop thing was kinda weird, and more weird that it looked like a Mac. And something else which was really confusing were the skyscrapers. If the technology is so high you can build a laptop, wouldn't firing arms be a thing by now...
 

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This is my thoughts on it.
Ending was very fast paced, but the epilogue was alrightly paced. I see Kishi supports OP. I was disappointed that Sasuke got so little and he was doing something random. Wonder what happened to Taka? Oro didn't die, or did I miss something? Subpar ending imo, but still acceptable. At least there was no romance shit at all or anything, and we didn't see Naruto and Hinata together in the one room, that made it that much more bearable.
Take note that I am not a NaruSaku fan, I just dislike NaruHina... and most other pairings. Lol
 

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Spot on....:vincent:

What part connected with you the most?


This is my thoughts on it.
Ending was very fast paced, but the epilogue was alrightly paced. I see Kishi supports OP. I was disappointed that Sasuke got so little and he was doing something random. Wonder what happened to Taka? Oro didn't die, or did I miss something? Subpar ending imo, but still acceptable. At least there was no romance shit at all or anything, and we didn't see Naruto and Hinata together in the one room, that made it that much more bearable.
Take note that I am not a NaruSaku fan, I just dislike NaruHina... and most other pairings. Lol

Thanks for the comment. I believe there's a lot of people here that don't particularly care for narutosaku or any pairings at all, but they just dislike anything to do with Naruto and hinata.
 

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its just these kids who didn't get what they wanted and now are crying like they didn't all the presents they wanted for Christmas.
 

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What you mention in "Naruto Fans" I don't have a problem with any of those. I liked how everything turned up. The laptop thing was kinda weird, and more weird that it looked like a Mac. And something else which was really confusing were the skyscrapers. If the technology is so high you can build a laptop, wouldn't firing arms be a thing by now...

I totally missed the skyscrapers. Good point about the fire arms issue. I can see a future just like how the new avatar show was. Completely knew technology and a new era, but the same old problems.
 

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its just these kids who didn't get what they wanted and now are crying like they didn't all the presents they wanted for Christmas.

Not at all. Not everyone on NB is a kid. You and I aren't alone here. Given the fact that it was a shonen, (but it resonated with adults and is better perceived by adults than the kids) these issues with how the manga ended are quite reasonable.
 

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What part connected with you the most?




Thanks for the comment. I believe there's a lot of people here that don't particularly care for narutosaku or any pairings at all, but they just dislike anything to do with Naruto and hinata.

The whole thing about how Sasuke should have either been with no one or with Karin and how Naruto should have just been with Sakura. Also the fact that Oro,Kabuto and the rest of Team Taka got absolutely no screen time what so ever
 

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Darn, much of what you brought up is true. The Sasuke/Sakura ship just falls flat. Poor kid....
 

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Not at all. Not everyone on NB is a kid. You and I aren't alone here. Given the fact that it was a shonen, (but it resonated with adults and is better perceived by adults than the kids) these issues with how the manga ended are quite reasonable.

people are demanding way too much for too many explanations, yes its a shonen and its obviously going to have a happy ending. I thought it was a fine ending for a 15yr run.

Honestly, if kishimoto really went out and explained every single little thing about all the characters and certain parts that were not explained to the fullest people will just keep saying it sucked and/or be disappointed. and he wanted to end it anyway, it would of probably gone on another 100chapters for all these explanations about all the characters. and then people will say that ending sucked too.
 

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The whole thing about how Sasuke should have either been with no one or with Karin and how Naruto should have just been with Sakura. Also the fact that Oro,Kabuto and the rest of Team Taka got absolutely no screen time what so ever

Ah yes. The feels are strong with you.

Would you have preferred

1) Sasuke becomes hokage (naruto becomes a traveler teaching peace like Jiraiya and the sage)
2) Sasuke comes back, but only watches the village in the shadows as well as any bad activity (doesn't associate with the people)
3) Sasuke dies a hero after reviving everyone and undoing the seal with naruto.
4) whatever you prefer


Darn, much of what you brought up is true. The Sasuke/Sakura ship just falls flat. Poor kid....

The couples really are just poorly done. A lot of these girls, maybe not tenten, need to visit a psychaiatrist for a few years.


people are demanding way too much for too many explanations, yes its a shonen and its obviously going to have a happy ending. I thought it was a fine ending for a 15yr run.

Honestly, if kishimoto really went out and explained every single little thing about all the characters and certain parts that were not explained to the fullest people will just keep saying it sucked and/or be disappointed. and he wanted to end it anyway, it would of probably gone on another 100chapters for all these explanations about all the characters. and then people will say that ending sucked too.

what would you rate the manga? (letter grade)
 

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B+

I thought it was good, the more i read it the more interested i got into it. Even though its over I'll keep watching the anime because there is still a lot left they need to do. And most likely I'll re-read it again at some point in time.
 

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people are demanding way too much for too many explanations, yes its a shonen and its obviously going to have a happy ending. I thought it was a fine ending for a 15yr run.

Honestly, if kishimoto really went out and explained every single little thing about all the characters and certain parts that were not explained to the fullest people will just keep saying it sucked and/or be disappointed. and he wanted to end it anyway, it would of probably gone on another 100chapters for all these explanations about all the characters. and then people will say that ending sucked too.

B+

I thought it was good, the more i read it the more interested i got into it. Even though its over I'll keep watching the anime because there is still a lot left they need to do. And most likely I'll re-read it again at some point in time.


Agreed ^^^
Those who were not in chapter 700 could be considered fodders.
What we have here are NB members.
There could be others website similar to this base.
And if they said as what u had said, there will be any ending for Naruto manga.
btw Respect Kishi work....
 
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