[VS] 1 MS Obito vs 1 MS Kakashi

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I already explained why Obito wrecks Kakashi. He has kept up with the attacks from both Guy and KCM Naruto, and even with BM Naruto. He can also get the advantage with Mokuton and chakra rods.

He kept up with them because he had kamui intangibility!!!!!! In this case he doesn't have it. Obito would have gotten wrecked by naruto alone if he didn't have it.

What is your problem? I clearly said: Kakashi nullifies Obito's intangibility and then he beats him!

Without intanbility Obito looses all his CQC feats, since he would have gotten wrecked without it! Geez...

Is it really so hard to understand? Or at least use your brain?

I also forgot, chakra rods are a rinnengan technique... this is MS Obito
 

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He kept up with them because he had kamui intangibility!!!!!! In this case he doesn't have it. Obito would have gotten wrecked by naruto alone if he didn't have it.

What is your problem? I clearly said: Kakashi nullifies Obito's intangibility and then he beats him!

Without intanbility Obito looses all his CQC feats, since he would have gotten wrecked without it! Geez...

Is it really so hard to understand? Or at least use your brain?

I also forgot, chakra rods are a rinnengan technique... this is MS Obito
Obito can use without Rinnengan. Here i explain why Obito wins:
Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle, Obito can use to catch Kakashi by suprize and then stab him with a chakra rod. After Kakashi's chakra has been disrupted, Obito will gain the advantage of the fight, and finish off Kakashi with a .
 

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Obito can use without Rinnengan. Here i explain why Obito wins:
Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle, Obito can use to catch Kakashi by suprize and then stab him with a chakra rod. After Kakashi's chakra has been disrupted, Obito will gain the advantage of the fight, and finish off Kakashi with a .

(Okay, lets ignore the fact that what Obito used is not a chakra rod, since its irrelevant, he isn't hitting Kakashi)

What makes you think Obito is equal with Kakashi in taijutsu? Obito's taijutsu feats are only good with intangibility, and here he doesn't have it.

Kakashi kept up with 4 v2 jins and sliced them with raiden. Kakashi's speed>> Obito without Kamui.

So, no. Obito isn't getting Kakashi with mokuton... Kakashi dodges it and slices it with raiden. If obito goes on CQC he looses, if he uses fire Kakashi goes underground...

Another weak-ass argument. Just admit Kakashi wins..

@ I lol'd at: "Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle" ... Lol.. Kakashi's taijutsu feats >>>> Obito's without kamui.
 

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(Okay, lets ignore the fact that what Obito used is not a chakra rod, since its irrelevant, he isn't hitting Kakashi)

What makes you think Obito is equal with Kakashi in taijutsu? Obito's taijutsu feats are only good with intangibility, and here he doesn't have it.

Kakashi kept up with 4 v2 jins and sliced them with raiden. Kakashi's speed>> Obito without Kamui.

So, no. Obito isn't getting Kakashi with mokuton... Kakashi dodges it and slices it with raiden. If obito goes on CQC he looses, if he uses fire Kakashi goes underground...

Another weak-ass argument. Just admit Kakashi wins..

@ I lol'd at: "Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle" ... Lol.. Kakashi's taijutsu feats >>>> Obito's without kamui.
Obito caught BM Naruto off guard with Mokuton, and you have no evidence that Kakashi is better in taijutsu and faster than Kakashi.
 

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Obito caught BM Naruto off guard with Mokuton, and you have no evidence that Kakashi is better in taijutsu and faster than Kakashi.

He catched Naruto because he was trying to protect Kakashi! Naruto wasn't trying to dodge the mokuton! He used himself as a shield to protect an exhausted Kakashi who couldn't move on his own..

Oh, I have no evidence?

What about keeping up with 4 v2 jins at the same time? What about speedblitzing them with raiden? What about being on par with 6th gate Gai?

GTFO! Base obito is not even close to Kakashi on taijutsu and speed... And mokuton.. please, Kakashi cuts that off with raiden or uses clone feints.

You still giving weak arguments.. Just admit MS Kakashi > MS Obito
 

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He catched Naruto because he was trying to protect Kakashi! Naruto wasn't trying to dodge the mokuton! He used himself as a shield to protect an exhausted Kakashi who couldn't move on his own..

Oh, I have no evidence?

What about keeping up with 4 v2 jins at the same time? What about speedblitzing them with raiden? What about being on par with 6th gate Gai?

GTFO! Base obito is not even close to Kakashi on taijutsu and speed... And mokuton.. please, Kakashi cuts that off with raiden or uses clone feints.

You still giving weak arguments.. Just admit MS Kakashi > MS Obito
Obito tried catching Naruto, not Kakashi.
Kakashi never kept up with 4 V2 Jiinchuruki, he only , and his Raikiri missed.
 
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So:

-Kakashi makes a kage bunshin and instantly warps it to the other dimension (rendering obito's intangibility useless).
Obito spits the clone out or one shots the clone

Obito wont be on time to cancel it, because when kakashi warps human sized objects its too fast for him even to see it,
What? Who said so?

let alone cancelling it. (Obito wont destroy the clone either, Kakashi wont send it to fight obito, he would warp it as soon as he makes it)
Obito would cancel the Kamui

The battle becomes base skills vs base skills (since Kamui is useless from both sides).
Obito can use:
Bakufu ranbu: Kakashi goes underground
Obito also goes underground using hiding mole and uses BR underground

CQC: Kakashi is superior, wihtout intangibility Obito's taijutsu is nothing special
Mokuton? Chakra Rods? Healing? Speed? More Stamina? More Chakra?

while Kakashi has amazing feats.
Kakashi is faster and smarter, and has very good feats on clone feints.

Bold is BS

Obito can't win here.
But Obito let Kakashi win the canon fight...
 

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I think obito can take this with high diff
 

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Even if he led kakashi stab himself, he wasn't able to tell whether the stab would hit his head or his stomach, i think obito also moved a bit in the direction of the stab that it definitely will hit the seal, but kakashi had the chance to blow his head away before, so the whole point is irrelevant. Kakashi is better when obito isn't able to use intangibility and thats the case if kakashi warps a clone in the kamui land.
How will obito be able to cancel kamui if he doesn't notice when kakashi uses kamui ?
 
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Even if he led kakashi stab himself, he wasn't able to tell whether the stab would hit his head or his stomach, i think obito also moved a bit in the direction of the stab that it definitely will hit the seal, but kakashi had the chance to blow his head away before, so the whole point is irrelevant. Kakashi is better when obito isn't able to use intangibility and thats the case if kakashi warps a clone in the kamui land.
How will obito be able to cancel kamui if he doesn't notice.when kakashi uses kamui ?
Yes because Obito is dumb jock right? Wrong!
 

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Yes because Obito is dumb jock right? Wrong!

kakashi uses 2 or 3 shadow clones, the clones will attacking obito forcing him to go intangible, the moment he goes intangible The original kamuis a clone with instant speed.
Obito can't cancel kamui while using intangibility + Kakashis kamui on smaller objects like humans is to fast for being canceled.
The next attack of kakashi for example beast runner forces obito to go intangible again and the clone in kamui land cut the body part of obito with a raikiri into pieces GG.
 

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What makes you think Kakashi is gonna send his clone right in front of obito? Kakashi makes the clone and instantly warps it to the other dimension. The clone wont go to fight Obito like KCM Naruto's did.

Because Obito's going to stand there and alway Kakashi to make and warp a clone.

He'll take it out with giant shurikens no problem.

He can't make a shadow clone in the mist on a one v one battle.

Oh god, your fodder-debater abilities are making me laugh. Obito wont have the chance to solo kakashi's clone, because as soon as kakashi makes the clone he warps it. Then Obito's intangibility is cancelled and Kakashi wins...

This is probably one of the most stupidest post i have seen today, I am way out of your league you raging amateur.

Only a weak debater would say Kakashi can make a clone and warp it at the same time.

1) Kakashi will not have enough chakra to use raikiri then, because clones deplete his chakra instantly (example: Kakashi vs pain fight)

2) Even if he some how makes it into dimension, Obito won't use intangible kamui.

He will eject him out of there like he did Sasuke/Karin during the beginning of the Danzo fight

So use common sense

Oh, by the way, nice move by posting a chapter where Obito fights an exhausted and confused Kakashi... lol.

if you're using "confused and exhausted," as a retort then you have already failed in this pointless argument.

Kakashi used the Doton wall to stop Obito, you don't use a ninjustu if you are confused or extremely exhausted.

Even Obito is a lot more exhausted than Kakashi is, he fought using Gedo/6 bijuus at the same time.

Which takes a lot more chakra...

Afterwards he fought ms Kakashi, bm naruto, Hachibi, and Gai at the same time using kamui alone. While also using the rinnegan on the Gedo transformation to the juubi, and you give me this sh*t as an excuse?

Go home :|
 

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Doesn't change the fact that Kakashi's Chakra was replenished but Obito's not.

I forgot that Kyuubi's chakra gives a 3x boost in abilities. Not seeing how Kakashi can win this.​
 
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I forgot that Kyuubi's chakra gives a 3x boost in abilities. Not seeing how Kakashi can win this.​

If the user stays in the cloak, which vanished when they kaumied each other.
 

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If the user stays in the cloak, which vanished when they kaumied each other.

Lol Kakashi didn't have a cloak when he teleported Hachibi and stated his abilities got 3x better.​
 

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Because Obito's going to stand there and alway Kakashi to make and warp a clone.

He'll take it out with giant shurikens no problem.

He can't make a shadow clone in the mist on a one v one battle.



This is probably one of the most stupidest post i have seen today, I am way out of your league you raging amateur.

Only a weak debater would say Kakashi can make a clone and warp it at the same time.

1) Kakashi will not have enough chakra to use raikiri then, because clones deplete his chakra instantly (example: Kakashi vs pain fight)

2) Even if he some how makes it into dimension, Obito won't use intangible kamui.

He will eject him out of there like he did Sasuke/Karin during the beginning of the Danzo fight

So use common sense



if you're using "confused and exhausted," as a retort then you have already failed in this pointless argument.

Kakashi used the Doton wall to stop Obito, you don't use a ninjustu if you are confused or extremely exhausted.

Even Obito is a lot more exhausted than Kakashi is, he fought using Gedo/6 bijuus at the same time.

Which takes a lot more chakra...

Afterwards he fought ms Kakashi, bm naruto, Hachibi, and Gai at the same time using kamui alone. While also using the rinnegan on the Gedo transformation to the juubi, and you give me this sh*t as an excuse?

Go home :|

LOL

This whole post makes me cry..

Okay... lets start with Kakashi's Kamui speed.

Lets supose Kakashi makes the clone and Obito goes forward to atack the clone... do you really think he would make it? Kakashi can make kamui faster than a susano arrow. So no, Obito is not destroying the clone with giant shurikens lol.

Kage bushin does not split his chakra in 2, that's raiton bunshin...

Kakashi was in fact exhausted, are you trolling or what? Using earth wall means that he was not? After that earth wall he did just one more raikiri and then he needed a chakra refill because he was about to die.

Obito has better stamina than Kakashi.. so what? I did not say otherwise.

So:

- Obito can't do sh*t about Kakashi warping the clone... Giant shurikens? Lol, Kakashi's kamui work faster than susano arrows, once Kakashi makes the clone he points at it and warpis it. Who said it is at the same time? Is just nearly instant, not at the same time, i didn't say that.

- Kakashi was in fact exhausted. Using a doton wall doesn't mean that he wasn't. After that and one raikiri he needed a chakra refill from kurama.

- Kakashi's base skills > Obito's. The bests of obito's skills are all about Kamui and rinnengan technique. Here he doesn't have them, since intangibility is cancelled by having a clone on the other dimension and rinnengan is restricted.

YOU GO HOME SIR
 

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Obito spits the clone out or one shots the clone


What? Who said so?


Obito would cancel the Kamui


Obito also goes underground using hiding mole and uses BR underground


Mokuton? Chakra Rods? Healing? Speed? More Stamina? More Chakra?



Bold is BS


But Obito let Kakashi win the canon fight...

-Obito can't spit out the clone, if he could he would have done it with Naruto

-Who said so? Well... yo should read the manga back then when Kakashi warped BM Naruto's clone so fast that Obito didn't even see it. He noticed it when he already had Naruto's rasengan on his face lol.

-Obito won't cancel the kamui. Kakashi warped BM Naruto's clone so fast that obito didn't even see it, let alone cancelling it.

-Obito goes underground using Kamui. He doesn't use hiding like a mole.

- Mokuton? Chakra rods? SPEED? HEALING? WTFFF!!??

Mokuton is sliced with riden. Chakra rods are fodder if you cant hit Kakashi with it (and obito is not doing that) SPEED? Kakashi is way faster than Obito without kamui..

- No, YOUR WHOLE POST is BS
 

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FINALLY I FOUND THE SCAN

I was looking for it like for an hour!!!

Kakashi keeping up with 4 v2 jins all by himself and slicing them with raikiri!!

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That's why i laugh when someone posts that Obito's mokuton would do something against kakashi... or when someone says Obito's speed without Kamui is greater than Kakashi's, or that obito's CQC is better than Kakashi's.

Kakashi sends a clone to the other dimension and then beats Obito! ^^^^ That scan is more than enough proof that Kakashi's speed and CQC are more than enough to handle Mokuton and chakra rods!
 

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LOL

This whole post makes me cry..

Okay... lets start with Kakashi's Kamui speed.

Lets supose Kakashi makes the clone and Obito goes forward to atack the clone... do you really think he would make it? Kakashi can make kamui faster than a susano arrow. So no, Obito is not destroying the clone with giant shurikens lol.

Obito's black rods are faster than an Enton Susanoo arrow, so this speed feat is useless.

You're not counting the distance and time it takes Kakashi to make a clone, let alone send it to dimensions.

The fact that a Obito ejected kamui shurikens from dimensions faster than BM naruto had time to evade it.

So if Kakashi stupidity uses shadow clone in the mist of the battle, either he or the clone is taking damage.

So ya, you failed to see that part...Cry more.

Kage bushin does not split his chakra in 2, that's raiton bunshin...

Kakashi was in fact exhausted, are you trolling or what? Using earth wall means that he was not? After that earth wall he did just one more raikiri and then he needed a chakra refill because he was about to die.

Unless you don't understand the basics of how to utilize a ninjustu...

Stop posting.

Because Kakashi used Doton wall and raikri before replenishing his chakra.

Obito expended more chakra than him, so don't complain for Kakashi.

Obito has better stamina than Kakashi.. so what? I did not say otherwise.

So:

- Obito can't do sh*t about Kakashi warping the clone... Giant shurikens? Lol, Kakashi's kamui work faster than susano arrows, once Kakashi makes the clone he points at it and warpis it. Who said it is at the same time? Is just nearly instant, not at the same time, i didn't say that.

Bm naruto didn't have enough time to make a shadow clone without Hachibi covering for him, and now you expect Kakashi to do it alone in a fight?

Sending a clone into dimensions is futile, Obito has to be intangible for it too work.

That wouldn't be necessary when he impales his body with a sh*t ton mokuton.

He's not sending a clone period, he isn't fast enough to make a clone let alone warp one.

By then he'll be out of chakra and his clone will disappear.


- Kakashi was in fact exhausted. Using a doton wall doesn't mean that he wasn't. After that and one raikiri he needed a chakra refill from kurama.

This doesn't help your case here

- Kakashi's base skills > Obito's. The bests of obito's skills are all about Kamui and rinnengan technique. Here he doesn't have them, since intangibility is cancelled by having a clone on the other dimension and rinnengan is restricted.

YOU GO HOME SIR

Obito beat the piss out of Kakashi with basic skills, so you're way off.

Second match Obito played Kakashi into making him the most powerful being in the world.

On top of that, none of Obito's skills are restricted, the rinnegan ehanced what he was already able to do.

His Yin yang release....Still had it

His Six path Justus.....Got better, so he didn't need to use the black rods for it like he did MS

His Uchiha skills.....Doesn't change in any curcumstances.





You need to stop hyping yourself, you're not that good enough to be this arrogant.
 
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3T Kakashi > Rinnegan MS Obito canonically
Therefore
MS Kakashi > MS Obito (and it's even worse this time).
 
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