Most overrated HxH character? (strength-wise)
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And what exactly makes you think that Ging>Meruem? Meruem easily shits on Ging. At this point Meruem>>>>anyone second to him. Post-nuke Meruem is in a tier of his own.
Pre-nuke he was already above the likes of Netero and the only reason why Netero stood a chance against him was because Meruem didn't want to kill him. Meruem was separating his limbs and wounding him. Meruem had to keep him alive in order to find out hos own name which Neter knew. Rose Meruem was tagging and blitzing people in a matter of seconds from a great distance.
Yes there will be stronger opponents but that doesn't mean he has bee. Surpassed.
Adult Gon>Ging.
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People say Ging is stronger than Meruem because of two combined reasons, he's one of the top 5 nen users and he's the father/end-goal of the main protagonist (Gon). I wouldn't say he's stronger than the Ant King but he and some of the other zodiacs would of done a much better job than him against the king.
Ging isn't the end goal of Gon. Sure Gon's goal was to find his dad but he already did that. Gon's goal isn't to be on the same level as Ging but based on what we saw from Adult Gon, EoS Gon will be leagues above Ging. Being one of the top 5 Nen users doesn't put you on the same level as the ant King. Hell, the chairman himself was getting dunked on by Meruem. If Meruem didn't care about finding out his name he would've made quick work of Netero.
Ging, Chrollo, Netero and the rest of the top-tiers are way below Nuke Meruem. He is in a tier of his own.
Unless you guys think that Ging can stomp a royal guard, he doesn't hold a candle against Meruem.
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Netero is far below his prime, that's why he did so poorly against the king. I never said that Ging or the top 5 nen users would defeat the king or are even on the same level. I just said he would of done a better job than Netero.
As for Ging being stronger than a RG, I would say it's possible. I speculate that the top 5 nen users are on the same level as the RG's but that's just a theory/guess of mine.
Meruem could do that to Netero in the first place because of his experience, skills, and tactics he gained from fighting Komugi. He admitted that.
Pitou stated that Gon's fangs would really reach the King's throat after she witnessed his transformation. On top of that, he has a Hatsu, unlike Meruem.
So? Tactics are what helped him coordinate Netero's attacks but that just makes him an overall better fighter. He admitted that he was able to coordinate Netero's moves due to playing Komugi but the only reason Netero lasted that long was because Meruem wanted to find out his name.
Pitou was referring to Pre-nuke Meruem and even then she said that Gon is still "reaching". Post-nuke Meruem>>>>Pre-nuke
The fact that Meruem doesn't have a Hatsu doesn't matter. Meruem can yse all the techniques Youpi and Pouf can use. Not to mention a Hatsu wont save you when you're facing overwhelming strength.
If it wasn't for the experience and tactics he gained by playing with Komugi, he wouldn't have coordinated Netero's faulty attack, nor he would have guessed it. It was subconscious, and you would need to think about millions and millions of needles, and one of them is the right one.
Post-Nuke Meruem isn't that much stronger, and Gon isn't still reaching. He could reach. In the anime, it was stated that Gon is as strong as the King. The King lacks a hatsu, pre-nuke. Gon has a hatsu, and that could finish him off.
I'm talking about pre-RG.
The experience and tactics he gained from playing with Komugi only adds to his strength. Manga>Canon since Togashi himself made it and manga says thay Gon is reaching. Adult Gon was "reaching" Pre-nuke Meruem. Post-nuke Meruem is much much stronger than Pre-nuke Meruem. He has hype and actually has shown the feats to back up that hype....
Conclusion...
Post-nuke Meruem>>>Pre-nuke Meruem>Adult Gon>Ging
We aren't arguing about Pre-nuke. We're arguing about the most recent version of Meruem. Meruem is the strongest HxH character right now no doubt and he pretty much stomps anyone second to him :/
Not to mention the way he was defeated...No one could match him.
Youpi and Pouf's abilities>>>>any hatsu.
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1) How about Bonolenov who can physically move at the speed of sound (battle canterbille), and who's mid-long range jutsu/technique can also move at the speed of sound (Jupiter), and who's sound waves when he dances causes genjutsu like effects such as dizziness and disorientaton. Why wouldn't he be able to last that long against the King?
2)What about autopilot Shalnark who basically turns into a supersaiyan when he puts a needle into himself? Is there proof that the king has more nen then him in this form? Or that he has more speed and power than him in this form? Obviously base Shalnark would be stomped, but there's absolutely no proof that the King would overpower Shalnark in this form. It's hard to even say the King can outlast him because the condition is that he won't stop until he eliminates the opponent and it would be difficult to outsmart him too because the computer program on his phone takes over when he is in this form (though I guess destroying the phone or removing the needle would be possible for the king).
3) Hard to say what Chrollo could or couldn't do. He could certainly avoid the King's attacks with his instant teleportation technique and he might win if he catches him with owl's cloak, since the cloak seems to be invincible. However, we don't know enough to say who would actually win in a drawn out battle. The king beats him in nen capacity and brute force I suppose, but then chrollo can easily avoid his techniques as well with his teleportation and manueverability. I suppose this one would come down to intellect. The king seems to be slightly smarter, but Chrollo is significantly more experienced, so I dunno, and there is the matter of the hundreds of other pages in chrollo's book that we don't even know what's in them. He stole two abilities in Yorkshin alone, how many has he stolen over the years?
4) Rusty Feitan would lose no doubt, and I guess he could match the King's speed when he's at full strength given how fast he became by the end of his battle with Zazan based on the sheer number of after images he left behind due to his speed, even Kalluto, who most likely was trained by Silva, Illumi, and maybe Zeno and Maha, was disbelieving of the guy's speed. However, you can't run away forever, I believe Feitan could only win if he set the condition that Netero set, to force the king not to kill him because he wants his name. That way, the King can take two limbs like he did to Netero and Feitan can kill him with a super powered pain pecker as a result. Anyway, Phinks clearly stated that there were many other powerful hatsus that Feitan possesses, so we don't know the full extent of his abilities.
5) Ging.- honestly, there's not enough we know about this guy, but he does have the ability to copy all physical attack nen techniques. Pariston stated that Ging and the other Zodiac's were Netero's sparing partners. Therefore, it goes without saying that he must have copied Netero's bhuda. He built greed island, which means that at least 60 percent of the cards there have his powers that he created and copied. He has Leorio's technique too, and he called Kite and Gon weak for losing to Pitou, who is as we all know a beast. So seriously, feats or not, I think this one is obvious.
6) Beyond Netero. No feats and no hype either than being Netero's son. However, you have to be a big hater or you're very petty if you think that alone is not enough to validate his strength. Not to mention, he is a survivor of the dark continent.
7) Hisoka, Zeno and Silva: I believe these guys don't stand a chance against the King. Although I suppose they could hold him off for maybe two minutes (didn't Netero last less than five minutes?).
8) Adult Gon stomps. I get that some might believe the King has an advantage if the battle is drawn out (most likely scenario) because of his smarts and stratergic aptitude, but lets not underestimate Gon's strategic apttitude too (Figuring out a way down the tower while the others were infighting, figuring out a way to get Hisoka's badge despite the massive gap in power, almost killing the bomber with a...crazy but smart strategy only for the bomber to get saved by the rock that tripped him, figuring out a way to break the perfect teamwork of Hollow and Bat, figuring out a way to defeat the candle guy in the exams in his own game). But more importantly, is Gon's unpredictability. You can't predict the behaviour of a nutjob, and lets face it, this kid is a total nutjob, even the bomber admitted.
9) Phinks. He can only win if the King pulls that 'lets sit down and talk' move he tried to pull with Netero. That will give him enough time to wind his arm lets say...100 times. However, if that doesn't work....well, rip Phinks.
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How can you say that Meruem at all stages > Adult Gon?
Adult Gon destroyed Pitou with like no difficulty whatsoever. The guy just casually curb stomped him, if Pituou went against King yes he would get destroyed, but it would be much closer than her fight against Gon..
His* I keep falling for the trap.
Adult Gon destroyed Pitou with like no difficulty whatsoever. The guy just casually curb stomped him, if Pituou went against King yes he would get destroyed, but it would be much closer than her fight against Gon..
His* I keep falling for the trap.
Lol and what if she performs a brain surgery? Doctors can do so but does that mean they have the intelligence to figure HK? The king hasn't shown any medical intelligence but are you saying because he knew about the Mechanics behind it, he can also do a brain surgery or has the knowledge to do so? Not to mention Pitou uses Doctor blythe to do these things. That in no way relates to this sort of intelligence.
Meruem proved him wrong not Pitou. All you've been doing since is give Meruem feats to Pitou. Despite him showing far more intelligence and Durability. The bold is an example.
The fact that he was feeling a dull pain means it was doing damage to him on the inside. Meaning if it went on for a much longer period, he would have eventually been put down. Netero kept hitting him despite seeing no damage was done on the outside...I wonder why he kept doing so when he could immediately resort to his stronger techniques while he kept using several hands to smack him. Of course for a longer time it could have done damage since he felt Pain inside.
No because you're still missing the point. It's his nen but different attacks..One was a blast, another involved him using multiple hands to clap the king, punch and slap him around. That is different from a blast..When he puts his hand together that's when the attacks come out because as long as his hands are together, he can attack faster regardless of what attack it is coming from his nen.Togashi should look out for you, your trying to rewrite his manga and give Netero new abilities
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The blast had Pitou flying a long distance while the hand slaps were more effective. That's why you can see the Buddha hereYou must be registered for see linksand that's why he says he was sure it was a direct hit..You still can't understand and that's why you're saying it's fan fiction when this is clear. Not to mention if I ask you to show me Buddha's appearance while attacking Pitou, you can't.
One had Pitou flying a far distance that DB had to stop her from flying further. One was shown to be a blast and another was just slapping The King around. The one used against Pitou wasn't used against the King.
Buddha appears for Zero hand, it's the same attack as Ninety nine? No it's not...Same nen but a difference in attack which is obvious. Same for Pitou and it's weaker since we didn't see that against the King.
Lol you've been giving Pitou durability feats that belong to The King? Not a chance of her figuring it out like the King did with a massive help from his games with Komugi and his superior intelligence Pitou has never displayed..Your only argument is a medical argument which doesn't even give her the benefits of being able to do so.
But didn't Netero continue? Wasn't The King feeling a dull Pain inside? Meaning little by little, it was affecting him. This guy survived Miniature Rose..The highest of Durability.
Loooool you know about Zeno? Someone who analyzed Chrollo easilyYou must be registered for see linksand Chrollo thought this to himselfYou must be registered for see links"saying he understood in an instant"
Far better than Medical(Doctor Blythe which does the job with Pitou's nen).
No because they heard The King fully well asking Pitou to heal Komugi...Knowing fully well that RG obey their King, why would they be afraid for? The next page made it clear that it was the King. Not to mention Netero encountered Terischopora(Pitou's strongest at full power) which pushes her above her limits and yet handled her easily...Why should DB make him shake? Lol
Funny thing is, The King had nothing but praise and admiration saying Netero is a better weapon in the fight and Netero showed no signs of fear.
Hell no Youpi isn't winning 6/10...Can you show me this guy's durability feats...because his intelligence is nothing that even enables him figure out HK. He's the dumbest as well when the others can't even figure it out. Pouf winning 7/10? Lol nope.
Bring points and I'll counter it.
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You sure took your time lol, I hoped that you would post in the weekend. But it's okay, I don't need to write an essay on Pouf. He is by far one of the smartest characters in the series, he outsmarted I don't know how many characters. He also tanked a hit from Meruem after he had eaten a nen user as seen in the scans. Combine that with his wits and hatsu (spiritual message + scales) and he becomes Netero's worst match-up.
Netero would have to use the zero hand from the get go to win this match. But he is a man who enjoys fighting and will not go for a quick win. Leaving him open to be controled or simply be killed.
Netero would have to use the zero hand from the get go to win this match. But he is a man who enjoys fighting and will not go for a quick win. Leaving him open to be controled or simply be killed.
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Meruem's attack is stronger than Netero's HK? Nah I don't think a tail attack is as strong as this guy's attacks.
Pouf is tricky but can read emotions which enables him to outsmart people..However, in a battle situation involving Netero's attacks, he gets shitstomped.
What's spiritual Message and scales doing to Netero?
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Yeah the ability to read aura/emotions doesn't come handy in this fight right?
Perhaps you forgot these moments.
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Knov saved both Morel and Gon by giving them intel on Pouf scales. Netero is going in this fight with no intel so how is he going to survive this?
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According to this official nifty guide book, Netero comes in at number 2 behind the king who is ranked with a question mark
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