Sick of all this databook BS

[SuperJak777]

Right these minor ones can be allowed to slide. But those needing major translations are the ones with the problems.

Worst part is, some people are really good at translating it, so they translate it and get that one thing wrong and people jump on it and call it fact. That tells me it isn't always the translation, but the fans as well.

 

[RNITBmsage]

Yes, but not more than one moon near and orbiting the earth. The Earth's gravitational pull isn't strong enough to have more than one moon orbiting it.

Incorrect
it would support it after a months time of the moon existing in our gravitational pull
granted during those first weeks its own pull would cause massive tsunami's high level earthquakes and a steep increase in volcanic activity
but still its possible

 

[Transcendence]

What? I'm sorry I liked all your posts until that one. You clearly don't understand how gravity works. It's not a force that gets used up the more an object is attracted by it. It's just there. The earth could have a hundred moons. But they would be rather small. In fact, Some asteroids/ comets (just meters across) fall into earths orbit all the time and remain their for a month or so before swinging off.

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I'm saying that under the assumption that the moon that we see in the manga is the same size as the one we have in reality. I wasn't accounting for multiple smaller sized moons. The gravity exerted by a planet is dependent on how strong the electromagnetic field it has is. That's why the larger planets like Jupiter have multiple moons -> Stronger pull due to a stronger electromagnetic field. The Earth's pull isn't nearly strong enough to pull two similarly sized moons into it's orbit. It's the same concept as the Sun. It's gravitational pull is so powerful that the current solar system "set-up" and the way the planet's orbit around it (elliptical orbits) is because of it's gravity. Anything less and more likely than not, one of the planet's furthest from the sun would fall out of orbit.

 

[NukaCola]

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I'm saying that under the assumption that the moon that we see in the manga is the same size as the one we have in reality. I wasn't accounting for multiple smaller sized moons. The gravity exerted by a planet is dependent on how strong the electromagnetic field it has is. That's why the larger planets like Jupiter have multiple moons -> Stronger pull due to a stronger electromagnetic field. The Earth's pull isn't nearly strong enough to pull two similarly sized moons into it's orbit. It's the same concept as the Sun. It's gravitational pull is so powerful that the current solar system "set-up" and the way the planet's orbit around it (elliptical orbits) is because of it's gravity. Anything less and more likely than not, one of the planet's furthest from the sun would fall out of orbit.

you also seem to be under the misconception that the planet in the Narutoverse is the same as our planet.

 

[Transcendence]

you also seem to be under the misconception that the planet in the Narutoverse is the same as our planet.

Well, it was an assumption.

 

[bencoby]

Worst part is, some people are really good at translating it, so they translate it and get that one thing wrong and people jump on it and call it fact. That tells me it isn't always the translation, but the fans as well.

Yes that would have been my next point as well. All these can be made simple if official translations are released for everyone to read.

 

[RNITBmsage]

you also seem to be under the misconception that the planet in the Narutoverse is the same as our planet.

its probably much much smaller than ours actually

 

[RNITBmsage]

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I'm saying that under the assumption that the moon that we see in the manga is the same size as the one we have in reality. I wasn't accounting for multiple smaller sized moons. The gravity exerted by a planet is dependent on how strong the electromagnetic field it has is. That's why the larger planets like Jupiter have multiple moons -> Stronger pull due to a stronger electromagnetic field. The Earth's pull isn't nearly strong enough to pull two similarly sized moons into it's orbit. It's the same concept as the Sun. It's gravitational pull is so powerful that the current solar system "set-up" and the way the planet's orbit around it (elliptical orbits) is because of it's gravity. Anything less and more likely than not, one of the planet's furthest from the sun would fall out of orbit.

now this makes sense

 

[Transcendence]

its probably much much smaller than ours actually

Well we don't really have proof for either thought. Either assumption could be right. The only thing that we know about the size of the planet is that the entire story is relegated to on single area (where we see the map of the 5 separate nations).

 

[ForteSP]

It's pretty much hinted in the manga she came from "A faraway place" and it was just confirmed it was a different planet...does she look human to you???

Does Kisame look human to you? He's confirmed human, though...

 

[bencoby]

you also seem to be under the misconception that the planet in the Narutoverse is the same as our planet.

Well it could be since the planet's curvature has been on panel several times. If its not the what size do you recon?

 

[RNITBmsage]

Well we don't really have proof for either thought. Either assumption could be right. The only thing that we know about the size of the planet is that the entire story is relegated to on single area (where we see the map of the 5 separate nations).

thats exactly why assuming the planet is very small is the most accurate assumption

 

[Transcendence]

Well it could be since the planet's curvature has been on panel several times. If its not the what size do you recon?

He's probably thinking it's much smaller. Although the entire story is relegated to one area of the map, that's why I assume majority of the planet in the Narutoverse is unexplored. It seems that the Shinobi sect is only in that one area and it didn't spread to other parts of the globe. And given the timeline that people expect Naruto to be in, it makes sense that the entire planet hadn't been discovered yet.

 

[bencoby]

He's probably thinking it's much smaller. Although the entire story is relegated to one area of the map, that's why I assume majority of the planet in the Narutoverse is unexplored. It seems that the Shinobi sect is only in that one area and it didn't spread to other parts of the globe. And given the timeline that people expect Naruto to be in, it makes sense that the entire planet hadn't been discovered yet.

I agree, also the countries housing the villages are very huge, i recon continent level. So its, comparison to earth in terms of size isn't far of.

 

[spade3dg]

Sai has 4 elements and Kayuga is not a martian. Martians come from mars and Kaguya is from the moon.

In the Narutoverse exist people that can teleport and manipulate gravity

Damn. You nuked this thread.

/thread solo'd. Narujesus style

 

[sandman20]

Does Kisame look human to you? He's confirmed human, though...

Nope he doesn't, but was he born in a "Faraway place" like Kaguya? Even Hagoromo thought the idea of him being an alien was possible.

 

[Transcendence]

I agree, also the countries housing the villages are very huge, i recon continent level. So its, comparison to earth in terms of size isn't far of.

We'll never know unless Kishi tells us lol. He did say in an interview a long time ago that he created Konoha (the way it looks) based off his hometown in Japan, so if it's based on Japan then that it is a little more leeway to our point that it is the same size as reality's Earth.

 

[solo king]

There is more than one moon in the universe, dimwit.

1.the closest moon besides our own is venus's

2.that moon is between 226-263 million kilometers away(depending on orbit)

3. You're automatically assuming our universe is identical to nv, which is obviously flawed logic considering their moon was created through Ninjutsu and doesn't parallel our own moon's timeline.

4. You're also jumping to the conclusion that kaguya can travel 226m km which would take even us a few years.

 

[bencoby]

We'll never know unless Kishi tells us lol. He did say in an interview a long time ago that he created Konoha (the way it looks) based off his hometown in Japan, so if it's based on Japan then that it is a little more leeway to our point that it is the same size as reality's Earth.

Yeah, its also among the many unanswered questions in the manga and a clarification would erase all these doubts.

The Japan theory too may surfice in some arguments too but may not be enough although a little close.

 

[RNITBmsage]

1.the closest moon besides our own is venus's

2.that moon is between 226-263 million kilometers away(depending on orbit)

3. You're automatically assuming our universe is identical to nv, which is obviously flawed logic considering their moon was created through Ninjutsu and doesn't parallel our own moon's timeline.

4. You're also jumping to the conclusion that kaguya can trave 753.3 ly which would take even us a few years.

fixed it for ya!