Rebound question regarding Zoro and Sanjis strength

[Punk Hazard]

It was just small bruises. From a certain level of superhuman strength, small bruises aren't enough to decrease your physical capacity. After Law escaped from the gravity, he was still running as if nothing happened, outspeeding even Doflamingo at times, stopped overheat, fought Doflamingo and so on, so no, small bruises on the body is no excuse and just an attempt to grasp at straws if anything.

Besides, if small bruises are enough to decrease his strength then it shows even more that he is inferior physically to Zoro when you realise the number of times even close to death Zoro(so let alone small bruises) showed to endured pain to fight as well as if he was healthy on multiple occasions

They are when the force is coming from someone equally or more superhuman. It's all relative, Law might have superhuman durability, but the force is from something superhuman, so it still works the same way. He was running as if nothing happened for the same reason that the pain and wincing goes away when you take your thumb off of the bruise, the force is gone. He is no longer feeling the constant push of the force on his wounds, so the pain has subsided to a more bearable level.

Crying out due to pain is something Zoro has always done, regardless of how strong he is, so no, it does not. Law's strength wasn't decreased because there was pain on his bruises because, as you yourself said, he was running just fine once the force was gone. I never said Law's strength was decreased because of the pain, I'm saying Law's reaction to the pain was greater than Zoro's because the force would hurt him more due to exposed wounds, while Zoro had no exposed wounds. You have either contradicted yourself, or didn't understand what I was saying.

However, what I've realized after typing this is that Law never actually cried out while under the force of Fujitora's gravity, in the manga, he is just pinned, but isn't wincing or crying out or anything. So all in all, you're still wrong about it meaning Zoro>Law>Sanji in physical strength.

 

[Bogard]

I'm saying Law's reaction to the pain was greater than Zoro's because the force would hurt him more due to exposed wounds, while Zoro had no exposed wounds. You have either contradicted yourself, or didn't understand what I was saying.

Fujitora never tried to crush Law. He just wanted to restrict Law's movement with the gravity he used for Doflamingo to question him. It's not like he attempted to completely crush him like he tried to do against Zoro. Hence he used a much weaker gravity barely enough to bend the ground when against Zoro, it cracked the ground completely. Infact when you read carefully, you'll realise, he firstly attempted a weaker gravity(similar to what he used against Law) but Zoro was resisting until he increased it to the point of breaking the ground, so both situations aren't even remotely comparable

I still remain with my conclusion that Zoro > Law > Sanji in physical strength

 

[Punk Hazard]

so both situations aren't even remotely comparable

And yet you got your conclusion that Law<Zoro by comparing the situations. Contradicting yourself I see.

so both situations aren't even remotely comparable

I still remain with my conclusion that Zoro > Law > Sanji in physical strength

And how did you come to such a conclusion?

Law has greater physical strength than Sanji because of a durability feat? Your as faulty as an oil spill.

 

[NarutoBmx33]

Law doesn't really need the brute strength as much as Zoro because Law uses his devil fruit, as opposed to Zoro who doesn't use a devil fruit. And yes, Law is also a swordsman but his heavy moves are from his devil fruit which doesn't necessarily require incredible strength, just a great amount of stamina. On the other hand, Zoro needs a lot of strength to be able to cut through strong objects/opponents because he doesn't have a devil fruit.

 

[Bogard]

And yet you got your conclusion that Law<Zoro by comparing the situations. Contradicting yourself I see.
And how did you come to such a conclusion?

Law has greater physical strength than Sanji because of a durability feat? Your as faulty as an oil spill.

It was a lexical issue. I didn't mean to say there were no comparison whatsover between both situations but that Zoro was in far worse situation, so astronomically more difficult that Law's situation was like a child's play around

Durability and physical strength are 2 associable words. If Sanji had enough strength, Vergo wouldn't have managed to bypass the physical strength on his feet enough to cause damage

 

[Punk Hazard]

It was a lexical issue. I didn't mean to say there were no comparison whatsover between both situations but that Zoro was in far worse situation, so astronomically more difficult that Law's situation was like a child's play around

Durability and physical strength are 2 associable words. If Sanji had enough strength, Vergo wouldn't have managed to bypass the physical strength on his feet enough to cause damage

Nope. You contradicted yourself, plain and simple. You compared them, and then called them incomparable.

Associable, but not the same. You can have greater durability than someone, but not greater strength. One example of this is Daz Bones have greater durability than Zoro, but Zoro having greater strength. Sanji had sufficient strength to stalemate Vergo's kick, as in, neither of them were pushed back, but not enough durability to handle the force the clash put on him.

 

[sravan]

Oda needs to give the M3 rankings.Because these days i find some zorro fans saying he can defeat luffy.
luffy will always be the strongest SH.
zorro and sanji are left & right hand man of luffy.At the end of the arc they will be equal.

 

[Bogard]

Oda needs to give the M3 rankings.Because these days i find some zorro fans saying he can defeat luffy.
luffy will always be the strongest SH.
zorro and sanji are left & right hand man of luffy.At the end of the arc they will be equal.

@bold even Caesar defeated Luffy duh. It's not like Luffy is invincible. Although if you wanted to say that some zorro fans say he is stronger than Luffy, then no i don't remember even one saying such a thing. It's funny how not only you're off-topic but people always accuse the zorro fanbase for things they never said. Even Aqeel always say Luffy defeats Zoro with high difficulty/give him generally 10points more in a 100 score, but strangely enough those same guys don't find nothing strange in thinking Sanji is equal to Zoro when Zoro is portrayed to be stronger. Sometimes i wonder if it's really Zoro fanbase who is bad or if it's Sanji/Luffy fanbase who are worse. The ranking has always been and will remain Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

 

[sravan]

@bold even Caesar defeated Luffy duh. It's not like Luffy is invincible. Although if you wanted to say that some zorro fans say he is stronger than Luffy, then no i don't remember even one saying such a thing. It's funny how not only you're off-topic but people always accuse the zorro fanbase for things they never said. Even Aqeel always say Luffy defeats Zoro with high difficulty/give him generally 10points more in a 100 score, but strangely enough those same guys don't find nothing strange in thinking Sanji is equal to Zoro when Zoro is portrayed to be stronger. Sometimes i wonder if it's really Zoro fanbase who is bad or if it's Sanji/Luffy fanbase who are worse. The ranking has always been and will remain Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

so you think zorro can beat ceaser? In one piece everyone has to face defeat atleast once.But what iam saying is luffy will always be strongest in SH crew.I don't mind sanji being weak in M3.

 

[-Akuma-]

Sanji is not physically stronger than Zoro overall its the other way around. His legs are stronger yes. but overall Zoro is stronger let me ask you what does Zoro mostly do in his spare time if hes not sleeping and getting lost? let me answer that U_U. He trains like mad while Sanji is just a cook and doesnt train at all Zoro's arms are stronger than Sanjis legs this can be proven by the force and damage of Zoro's attacks eg 1080p cannon it takes unimaginable muscle capacity and sheer strength to perform a technique of that caliber even if Zoro didnt have his swords the damage from his muscles would still be destructive. whilst Sanji has never come close to perform a technique like that but hes the stronger one

Going by your logic Luffy is weaker than Zoro because he doesn't train, so you've failed to vouch for Zoro again. Once again 1080P Canon didn't even cut through Pica's Goem completely lol Hells Memories is comparable to what Zoro did. So you've failed again, Sanji's is physically stronger.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Going by your logic Luffy is weaker than Zoro because he doesn't train, so you've failed to vouch for Zoro again. Once again 1080P Canon didn't even cut through Pica's Goem completely lol Hells Memories is comparable to what Zoro did. So you've failed again, Sanji's is physically stronger.

Why do people have this notion that Zoro is the only Strawhat that trains?

For one, Oda already confirmed that Luffy does a ridiculous amount of exercise.

Sanji is a martial artist who's skills have been getting better. A martial artist that doesn't train doesn't get stronger, they don't get better, their skills get sloppy and they get rusty. If Sanji didn't train, he'd botch every kick he attempted.

 

[-Akuma-]

Why do people have this notion that Zoro is the only Strawhat that trains?

For one, Oda already confirmed that Luffy does a ridiculous amount of exercise.

Sanji is a martial artist who's skills have been getting better. A martial artist that doesn't train doesn't get stronger, they don't get better, their skills get sloppy and they get rusty. If Sanji didn't train, he'd botch every kick he attempted.

Thank you someone gets it, Zoro fans think that all the SH do is f*ck about in their free time. If anything this is a testament to Sanji and Luffy, they may train but not as much as Zoro yet they stay in the same league of power.