Yeah of course, i'm not denying thatMadara achieved more then Sasuke just by awakening the Rinnegan on his own, and deciphered the Uchiha Tablet.
But Sasuke did achieve a lot in 17 years.
Kid Madara VS Kid Sasuke, they were like the same age, it doesnt matter if Sasuke didnt fully mastered his Sharingan.You compared Sasuke who had not yet mastered or even fully awakened his Sharingan against Kid Madara.
You compared MS Sasuke who had the MS for a few days to EMS Madara who probably had the EMS for awhile.
You piont out how Sasuke "Couldn't achieve leg Susano'o" on his own yet don't mention how he started using the EMS like 3 hours earlier.
Also Sasuke is 17,that is a kid,and he clearly stomps Kid Madara.Sasuke is not evem close to his prime,prime is like 25-30 which EMS Madara was probably at.
Fact you got wrong.
-Karin healed Sasuke ONCE which was at the end of the battle,after Sasuke and Danzo had pierced each other,and after Sasuke tricked Danzo with Genjutsu this shutting his Izanagi down.
And against Kabuto Sasuke obvoiusly wasn't in top condition.He was focused on Itachi.If he had the mindset he had before he saw Itachi then Kabuto would have lost.
There's a big difference from EMS Sasuke before he saw Itachi and when he was with him.
Dont forget that 8 or 9 yr old Sasuke was training himself like hell to take revenge on Itachi, yeah thats a lot older than when Madara was thrown into war i know, but still.We cannot be comparing these two when they were born in completely different eras. Madara was born during a time of war between clans. He had to be strong to defend himself and was thrown into battle at an early age. Sasuke was born during a time of stability in a village, where children did not have to go to war and where they didn't have to be sent to kill adults.
At 17 years old, Sasuke is extremely powerful and has time to grow stronger. Once he does, Madara will be inferior to him.
The movie is 2 years ahead,and 13 year old Sasuke>13 year old Madara.Kid Madara VS Kid Sasuke, they were like the same age, it doesnt matter if Sasuke didnt fully mastered his Sharingan.
And no i compared MS Madara VS MS Sasuke, it was before Izuna died so he couldnt have his EMS yet....
And yeah 17 yr old Sasuke would win against 13 yr old Madara obviously.
And i know that Sasuke isnt in his Prime yet, but the Manga is ending and i compared which character was stronger in the Manga during their lifetime..... So i meant Prime version of Sasuke during the Manga
And we have to wait to see 25-30 yr old Sasuke in the Movie...
16,And 17 is a child.Infact Orochimaru and Hashirama called Sasuke a child multiple times.But if you mean part 1 Sasuke and Kid Madara who was probably 13 aswell then that's hard to say.Sasuke had more experience with the Sharingan,CM stage 2,Chidori,and High Speed Taijutsu,which he used in base.While Madara had just awakened his 2 tomoe Sharingan.I bet your ass 30 year old EMS Sasuke would rek 30 year old EMS Madara, as a child Madara was superior but Sasuke's growth is superior. EMS at 16 and Rinnengan at 17? Sheesh imagine him fully matured.
2 Years?? Wtf didnt know that.... and i disagree with bolded, you know why i disagree if you have read my threadThe movie is 2 years ahead,and 13 year old Sasuke>13 year old Madara.
You can't be serious...Juubi Jin Madara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Form of Sasuke.
Training is nothing like experiencing true war. Of course Madara obviously would achieve more & be more powerful upon death. Two different eras, two different upbringings, and two different life experiences. Sasuke is still ages younger than Madara as well.....Dont forget that 8 or 9 yr old Sasuke was training himself like hell to take revenge on Itachi, yeah thats a lot older than when Madara was thrown into war i know, but still.
I don't see what it is he can't be serious about? 3R JJ Madara > Any form of Sasuke.You can't be serious...
Thanks manI don't see what it is he can't be serious about? 3R JJ Madara > Any form of Sasuke.
OT: I agree, good thread i must say.
Like i said this thread was made for the trolling Sasuke fans who believes that Sasuke is the strongest of alltime, stronger than Kaguya, Madara, Naruto etc.... You are a normal fanTraining is nothing like experiencing true war. Of course Madara obviously would achieve more & be more powerful upon death. Two different eras, two different upbringings, and two different life experiences. Sasuke is still ages younger than Madara as well.....
That's like comparing a high school students accomplishments to a teacher. Incomparable.
Lol I guess, dudeLike i said this thread was made for the trolling Sasuke fans who believes that Sasuke is the strongest of alltime, stronger than Kaguya, Madara, Naruto etc.... You are a normal fan
13 Year old Sasuke had 3 tomoe Sharingan,Chidori,CM Stage 1 and 2, High speed Taijutsu,he mastered Fire style jutsu and was skilled with Ninja tools.He could probably beat those same uknown Senju adults aswell.He skills were above Kid Madara's who had just awakened the 2 tomoe Sharingan for the firsf time.2 Years?? Wtf didnt know that.... and i disagree with bolded, you know why i disagree if you have read my thread
Good? Minus the multiple pionts he was wrong about and ignored and or didn't even think about?I don't see what it is he can't be serious about? 3R JJ Madara > Any form of Sasuke.
OT: I agree, good thread i must say.
No 13 y old Sasuke couldnt beat adult Senju's who were battling this kind of Uchiha's, Otherwise Sasuke would've beaten Zabuza and Haku by himself.13 Year old Sasuke had 3 tomoe Sharingan,Chidori,CM Stage 1 and 2, High speed Taijutsu,he mastered Fire style jutsu and was skilled with Ninja tools.He could probably beat those same uknown Senju adults aswell.He skills were above Kid Madara's who had just awakened the 2 tomoe Sharingan for the firsf time.
You showed Sasuke who had just awakened two tomoe's getting owned By lee,but ignored how 2 tomoe Sasuke highly impressed Orochimaru,attained Lee's High Speed Taijutsu in a month from copying his movements that he saw for like a few seconds during their fight.
And you ignored how he had CM,Chidori,and owned Kyuubi Naruto (no tails) once he activated his 3rd tomoe.
The CM absorbs Nature energy which increases strength,speed,power etc.
Also i just noticed you said Tobi saved him from Danzo's suicide attack.Tobi just warned Sasuke.Surely Sasuke wouldn't continue to stand there close to Danzo who was trying to kill him,while his technique was closing in on him.
One paneled unexpected sneak attack from the back from a ally is better than get soloed by your own sword, and Sasuke was trying to sneak attack MadaraLol....Sasuke is 17 thats nowhere near prime smh but what can you expect from madara fanboys I too would do this if my fav was one paneled by fodder with one hand