Why do people bring up clones when debating against Kamui

[Mark Sanchez]

I never quite understood this


People claim that Hashirama beats Obito because he can use wood clones


Just say that out loud


Doesnt it sound ridiculously stupid


Why in the blue hell would Obito try to warp a clone when he can just do this

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Hashirama's clones are not even that special, neg-diff by Madara's susanoo



Obito never tried to warp a clone


In that fight, it was Kakashi who used kamui to warp the kunai, rasengan, and Naruto's bm clone



I ask again, why would Obito try to warp wood clones. If anything, he can just use the black rods to take control of them.



Again, the clone argument doesnt make sense because u are underestimating Obito's intelligence.



Only character besides Black Zetsu to outsmart Madara, fool Itachi, manipulate Kakashi into stabbing him, trolled MInato, Nagato, and Konan, tricked the entire world, etc


He will forever be top 5 smartest characters.



There is no reason or any logical sense for Obito to warp clones



If Obito had his other eye, then he can just snipe his opponent's head off before he even makes clones.


Or Obito does this

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[Fair Game]

Never heard of people posting that, did you make that up?

 

[BlazeRelease]

The only ones who use clones properly (for stealth and counter attacks) are itachi and to a certain extent, kakashi.

I can see these two using clones in a debate against kamui, but hashis clones? No.

 

[Mellow]

itachi can beat kamui with explosive clones. Like how konan almost did but he actually does it cuz he's itachi.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Hashirama doesn't beat Obito for whatever reason, simple as that.

 

[VongolaX]

Never heard of people posting that, did you make that up?

You haven't been here long enough to see or visit the versus section.

A lot of mentally irregular people lurk around there posting blasphemy and what not.


OT: If Obito can off panel five to seven Hiruzen personal anbu bodyguards all in one setting, then don't listen to the trolls that post "wood clones GG," they're just dying for attention (desperate act).

 

[FleeOnSight]

Someone told me a few days ago that hashirama would beat double ms Obito with use of clones. It pissed me off I'm not gonna lie Lol

 

[lndra]

Obito IS the strongest character because he can dodge any hit. Yata mirror and Totsuka blade bs is just Itachi fappers trying to claim spiritual weapons can affect something in another dimension, say that out loud to yourself. Doesn't make sense does it? Obito is the strongest Tank, because he can take any hit, by not even getting hit by it.

 

[Mikeyofthesharingan]

Obito IS the strongest character because he can dodge any hit. Yata mirror and Totsuka blade bs is just Itachi fappers trying to claim spiritual weapons can affect something in another dimension, say that out loud to yourself. Doesn't make sense does it? Obito is the strongest Tank, because he can take any hit, by not even getting hit by it.

Ohhh so is that why obito said itachi couldve killed him had he known who he was? And why he purposely avoided konoha because of itachi? And no obito isnt top 5 smartest shinobi.

Kakashi
shikaku
Shikimaru
itachi
kabuto

Are all smarter than obito.

And youre overestimating obito if you think itachi wouldnt kill him

 

[Demonic.]

It's fine to say Obito will destroy a few clones but saying every single one is useless against Obito is nothing but wank. Especially when more clones can be made and used to trick Obito into warping a clone.

 

[LastGREATEST]

I always thought of it like kakashi kamui and he can only kamui one object at a time so if I use multi shadow clone jutsu and it's 100 of me long range kamui would be useless

 

[HENI]

obito cant lose

 

[lanakui8]

If obito is going to have to go around swinging his gunbai at every clone he meets, he's bound to get hit by hashi sooner or later.

Plus, obito can't tell the difference between the clone and the original.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I never quite understood this


People claim that Hashirama beats Obito because he can use wood clones


Just say that out loud


Doesnt it sound ridiculously stupid


Why in the blue hell would Obito try to warp a clone when he can just do this

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Hashirama's clones are not even that special, neg-diff by Madara's susanoo



Obito never tried to warp a clone


In that fight, it was Kakashi who used kamui to warp the kunai, rasengan, and Naruto's bm clone



I ask again, why would Obito try to warp wood clones. If anything, he can just use the black rods to take control of them.



Again, the clone argument doesnt make sense because u are underestimating Obito's intelligence.



Only character besides Black Zetsu to outsmart Madara, fool Itachi, manipulate Kakashi into stabbing him, trolled MInato, Nagato, and Konan, tricked the entire world, etc


He will forever be top 5 smartest characters.



There is no reason or any logical sense for Obito to warp clones



If Obito had his other eye, then he can just snipe his opponent's head off before he even makes clones.


Or Obito does this

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Did they say how? For example, Hashirama uses flower world which releases pollen that renders you unconcious. Obito can stay intangible for 5 minutes so he'll be breathing the pollen in slowly as he fights in the battle and keeping Kamui up cost chakra until it's inactive. Hashirama can send in wood clones to fight Obito at that time causing him to be distracted and they can use his genjutsu that takes away sight and hearing which can buy some time before Obito breaks the genjutsu. Or when their fighting he uses forest emergence to distract Obito, he hides while his clone fights Obito and allows him to be captured then he attacks causing Obito to use Kamui and the clone hits him.

Of course that would be if Hashirama breaks down how Kamui works for the clone getting warped in his place. Clones can use the same jutsus as Hashirama and he can use a vast amount while still having lots of chakra in each and you do know Madara even said that Hashirama was focusing too much chakra on his original self for the barrier so he didn't just picked them off in battle. Did you not see Madara own the 5 Kages using wood clones and wood jutsus while not being one bit serious? Hashirama, Madara, Tobirama are all on levels above Kage while Obito wasn't until he got the Rinnegan.

No he's not top 5 smartest. Madara out smarted Obito so badly, he manipulated Obito into turning evil by controlling Rin and the mist anbus and just used Obito. Madara had backup plans so nothing Obito did hurt Madara's plan to the point of no return. Obito can't tell the differences between clones, Naruto fooled Kaguya, Obito, and Sasuke with his clone when they all have doujutsus. Naruto fooled Obito amongst many others so is he smarter than Obito?

Smartest ninjas when it comes to combat are Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen, Madara, Itachi, Kakashi,Sasuke, Obito, and more not in that order but Obito is not top 5. You make it sound like Hashirama makes 10 clones and Obito goes to 1 and warps it. Hashirama used a clone to fake out Madara who is smarter and more wised than Obito and you don't think he can fake out Obito?

If Obito had his other eye that eye would be going blind as Kakashi already said it was and that he had to be really close to Kamui something.